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Secret messaging

19 replies

beyondconfused77 · 19/05/2021 13:41

Hi,

I got engaged last year just before we got put into lockdown. My OH was working in a small office as a freelancer before we both started working from home. One of the girls in his office was working for a separate company at the time (the two companies were merging but due to a fall out between both managers, the companies parted).

I was friendly with this girl and we occasionally spoke over Instagram. I noticed she had an awful lot of common with my OH; same music styles, sense of humour etc, and some of the things she would post about I realised my OH had taken an interest in.

I would talk to my OH about our conversations to which he wouldn't have much to say in response. I then asked if he was in contact with her to which he said he was and a couple of times a month. This surprised me a little given that she is 23 and he is 47, they no longer work together and he isn't the greatest at getting in touch with his closest of friends.

This girl and myself haven't got the greatest of mental health unfortunately. I confided in her about my low self-esteem and that I was finding myself comparing me to everyone else. She said she understood and does the same thing. Within 5 minutes of this conversation, she had found a picture of a guy being kissed on both cheeks by two girls and uploaded to her stories – was this some sort of hint? (not sure). The next three days she starts uploading pictures of herself, the previous time being 2 weeks prior, again I don't know if this was some dig at me.

After this happened, I spoke to my OH and said I found it a little weird they were catching up every few weeks given their big age gap and knowing that he doesn't speak to other friends for months at a time (he always comments that he needs to catch up with such-and-such as it's been so long). So I asked if he could show me the messages. He starts by saying 'I'll read them to you', so I say 'please can I see them?'. He shows me his phone but I'm distracted by the amount of texts. I scroll back 6 weeks worth and there's more texts than I thought given by what he'd said, some every week, some every day. He gets defensive and walks out saying he needs some fresh air.

A week passes and so I contact her, very politely saying what the situation was and how my OH had not been open at all about their friendship. She also gets defensive and blocks me. I had an art account on IG which was also following her. Later she posts a story which has a Steven Rhodes poster (my OH took a real interest in SR) which said 'Sick of your s*', along with the words 'very apt X' as though she was addressing it to me specifically.

She completely ghosts my OH after that, he deletes all the messages but not her number. He says he'll speak to her to explain it but he's not going to message her at the weekend. My birthday happened to be that weekend so I spent it feeling anxious about what was going on. He tries to call her at work but she won't respond. Her boss (who is also my ex boss) calls her and asks what has happened as she's very upset and didn't turn up for work that day. He explains but boss says he needs the two of them to sort it out (boss wants OH to do some freelance work for him). She still refuses to speak to him so I message her again through my art account and tell her that I'm not happy she has just decided to blank him when he's trying to sort things out.

Boss then rings OH again! OH blames my physical and mental health on my reason for being upset. Uh no, I'm upset because you were deceptive for months.

It's been a while since this happened. I've not heard from him. OH says he hasn't either but I view him in this different light now. I feel anxious around him and paranoid when he's on his phone. All these messages that he sent were never in my presence so he did he wait until I was asleep, or sometimes he would take his phone to the loo to look at news.

I feel so annoyed at both of them. I thought she was a friend but she couldn't get why I was upset that I'd found all this out. The way she acted so defensively is odd to me. This is also a girl who casually leaves her anti-depressants on her desk at work as if to say 'notice me', and constantly posts on Twitter about how suicidal she's feeling. Urgh, so fed up of feeling this way about us. I need to hear other perspectives on this.

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Phoenix121 · 19/05/2021 15:01

Very odd.

I would also think that the 'sick of your ... ' 'very apt' posting is meant as a dig to someone.

Did the texts sound innocent though?

beyondconfused77 · 19/05/2021 15:12

@Phoenix121

Very odd.

I would also think that the 'sick of your ... ' 'very apt' posting is meant as a dig to someone.

Did the texts sound innocent though?

Definitely, even down to the 'x', it's like she knew I would see it.

They seemed innocent but I was scrolling through pretty quickly.

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Shoxfordian · 19/05/2021 15:13

Why is he still your OH if he’s been spending so much time messaging with this much younger woman?

beyondconfused77 · 19/05/2021 15:16

@Shoxfordian

Why is he still your OH if he’s been spending so much time messaging with this much younger woman?
Because I don't know if I'm just being insecure about this. It's hard to know where the line is. If it's all innocent it's strange there has been no mention of contact at all. But what if lockdown has forced them to communicate through texts. The work had a group WhatsApp but they obviously started privately messaging as well as in the group, or perhaps the group chat went quiet.
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Lillygolightly · 19/05/2021 15:18

Well it sounds to me like she’s acted like a 23 year old. I don’t know what your DP’s been playing at but quiet honestly it’s your DP that has betrayed you, not her.

If I were in her shoes I wouldn’t be happy at all that firstly you basically accuse her of some sort of affair, you might not have said exactly that but the intimation is there. So she blocks you and blanks your DP, fair enough she’s distanced herself from the both of you. However your DP then gets shit at work because she’s upset, and you thought the way to solve this was by sending her a message from another account to say you weren’t happy about it and that your DP is trying to sort things out with her. I’m sorry OP but that will have only added fuel to the fire.

She is NOT the problem, your DP IS the problem. As far as I can tell from what you’ve written he’s showered her with attention or chased her, and she’s responded....maybe because she liked or maybe because she was just being polite since they work together somewhat. Either way your DP is the root cause.

Your DP had broken your trust and you are quiet right to be upset, angry and pissed pff with that but you need to actually direct that at your DP rather than focussing on this girl.

Flowers
Sillawithans · 19/05/2021 15:19

From what to be written here you sound very insecure.

I can't see he's done anything wrong but I can see why you wouldn't like it.

I think you've made yourself look a bit nuts messaging her and I'm not surprised she blocked you.

beyondconfused77 · 19/05/2021 15:28

@Lillygolightly

Well it sounds to me like she’s acted like a 23 year old. I don’t know what your DP’s been playing at but quiet honestly it’s your DP that has betrayed you, not her.

If I were in her shoes I wouldn’t be happy at all that firstly you basically accuse her of some sort of affair, you might not have said exactly that but the intimation is there. So she blocks you and blanks your DP, fair enough she’s distanced herself from the both of you. However your DP then gets shit at work because she’s upset, and you thought the way to solve this was by sending her a message from another account to say you weren’t happy about it and that your DP is trying to sort things out with her. I’m sorry OP but that will have only added fuel to the fire.

She is NOT the problem, your DP IS the problem. As far as I can tell from what you’ve written he’s showered her with attention or chased her, and she’s responded....maybe because she liked or maybe because she was just being polite since they work together somewhat. Either way your DP is the root cause.

Your DP had broken your trust and you are quiet right to be upset, angry and pissed pff with that but you need to actually direct that at your DP rather than focussing on this girl.

Flowers

You're right that she's not the main issue here. I was annoyed at her childish response and getting her boss to call my DP twice. It could have been resolved so much effectively. Personally if someone messaged me saying their DP hadn't been honest about their friendship, I wouldn't take it out them, certainly not the way she did. Her reaction and photo she shared after our conversation was suspicious and she knew about our engagement. My DP could have simply sent her a quick text or email but he didn't. Instead she goes directly to her boss when it's none of his business whatsoever.

I realise the betrayal has been made by my DP, but she certainly added fuel of her own.

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beyondconfused77 · 19/05/2021 15:31

@Sillawithans

From what to be written here you sound very insecure.

I can't see he's done anything wrong but I can see why you wouldn't like it.

I think you've made yourself look a bit nuts messaging her and I'm not surprised she blocked you.

We had already been talking for months and I considered her a friend, why is it so wrong to outright speak to her about it?
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Shoxfordian · 19/05/2021 15:35

He’s been giving her a lot of his attention and lying about it. His attention and time hasn’t been just for you, she’s been on the sidelines and he’s acted in an elusive way

Sillawithans · 19/05/2021 16:12

Cos he hadn't really done anything wrong.

messybun101 · 19/05/2021 16:18

I realise the betrayal has been made by my DP, but she certainly added fuel of her own

There's no 'but' here op. Leave this young girl alone. Stop following her on IG and whatever else and deal with your DP.

If the messages are innocent but friendly, you need to tell him to get a grip and act his age
If the messages suggest an EA, deal with that but it's unreasonable to be annoyed at her
If a while has passed hut you're still feeling anxious about his phone, then you need to speak to him about this. You'll only stress yourself out with paranoia every time he goes to the loo!

Trolling her SM through your second account and sending her messages because she's blanking your DP is very childish though. No wonder she blocked you. She's getting shit left, right and centre from you, DP and his boss and clearly just wants to be left alone - so do that.

You need to have a talk with DP it's all very immature

JesusIsAnyNameFree · 19/05/2021 16:23

@Sillawithans

From what to be written here you sound very insecure.

I can't see he's done anything wrong but I can see why you wouldn't like it.

I think you've made yourself look a bit nuts messaging her and I'm not surprised she blocked you.

He lied about how much they've been chatting. Why would he do that unless he felt like he was doing something that's not okay?
beyondconfused77 · 19/05/2021 17:18

She lied me too, telling me they only spoke once a month. I don't appreciate being lied to and then to blast me all over her social media. I didn't stalk her using another account. I was already following her through both accounts for months, and she followed both of mine. She blocked me on one but not the other, likely because she wanted me to see that snidey remark. I had every right to feel pissed off at her. Telling your boss about a non-work related issue just to get him to sort out a situation for you is incredibly cowardly imo. Maybe it's my character but I would never blast someone for clearly being upset about their fiance's secrecy. I'm certain she knew what she was doing and wanted to add to the suspicion. If I ever posted a story on IG, she was ALWAYS the first to see it. Odd behaviour!

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beyondconfused77 · 19/05/2021 17:53

I will also add I was cheated on by my previous BF of 9 years, found out through texts. He had lied to me for months. My OH has also cheated in the past. I apologise for being insecure.

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JesusIsAnyNameFree · 19/05/2021 18:14

No wonder you're insecure.

I would honestly think about walking away OP. He has cheated and he's being dishonest about how much he speaks to another woman. This isn't a healthy relationship for you.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 19/05/2021 18:16

I don't appreciate being lied to and then to blast me all over her social media.

I'm not sure anyone else but you would have made the connection between the SR post and you?! Unless she literally wrote your name in the post?

I would be a bit freaked out if I was her tbh, you're taking out your previous trauma and your husband's behaviour on her.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 19/05/2021 18:17

If he's cheated before and you've had someone else do it in the past too, this relationship isn't going to ever be happy and healthy. You would need a fresh start with someone loyal and decent. This isn't a healthy dynamic at all.

SwordofGryffindor · 19/05/2021 20:33

Jaysus. Shes 23 and calling in sick over him ? And posting attention seeking shit on Instagram? How childish. Why does he need to stay in contact with a much younger ex co worker ??

SwordofGryffindor · 19/05/2021 20:35

Also OP hes cheated in the past ?? Bin him !!!

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