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Help..but please be gentle

39 replies

LostInManchester · 18/05/2021 14:13

I have been with my DW for over a decade. After a few years together I thought that our relationship was great with the same values and dreams, but the sex was lacking. Some of this was on my part - I wasn't confident in bed. But I felt that other areas of the relationship were great and my view back then was that sex wasn't that important.

Around the time that I proposed, both her parents became ill. It was a tough time. None of her siblings helped, so it was down to her to act as help. This was on top of us both seeing our careers take off and so there was never really any free time. She spent most weekends supporting her family, We wanted to get married but the family issues meant we just did it on our own. Im not a confident person, so not having 100 people looking at you the whole day kind of suited me.

It went on for years - most weekends away. I did what I could to help, which pretty much meant my weekends were cooking, cleaning, ironing etc and making sure my DW didnt have to think about it. My DW also works away a lot, and some weeks I wouldnt see her in the week.

It was at this time I started to notice that my DW could be very critical. The cleaning wasn't good enough etc, very passive aggressive. She would also be quite controlling - if she was away she would frequently texting asking what I was doing. Or not allowing me to buy things for the house that I wanted. At the time I didn't really think anything of it, I just thought she was caring.

The sex dried up. Work hours in the week were long and she was never here at weekends, so it was sort of expected. I didn't say anything and sorted myself out, if you know what I mean (sorry if its TMI).

Around 3 years ago I said I wanted to start a family - we had sex two or three times. I hated it. The pressure was immense and it took a while to finish, if at all. We haven't had sex since. Around 18 months ago I sat my DW and said something has to change. I said we need to communicate better etc, and work out what's happening.

Both her parents passed away sadly - she is now trying to compensate for the lost years - she always wants to go out or be doing stuff. Around 18 months ago I said that we had to change - I was tired and developing depression. Over the next six months I tried to engage, say how I was feeling and explain why I didn't want to have sex. When I asked her, she just said sex was unimportant to her. For me there are two issues. One was the pressure in trying to conceive and the second being that I felt the dynamic outside the bedroom (her being quite critical and dismissive of me) meant there was no desire to have sex. She just kept saying that sex wasn't important to her, and that the issue is that I cant finish.

So then I found couples counsellor, but after 3 months I said we should stop. The counsellor said the issue was that I wasn't committed anymore. My DW said that in a 1:1 session, the counsellor told her that I was abusive because I was wanting change and in turn controlling. Fast forward to now... we have been in separate bedrooms for a year.

My DW is adamant that we cant split up. She says that she doesn't want to, and doesn't see a life without me. But I've noticed that over the past few years she wont undress in front of me. I don't know what to do anymore, so I am all ears.

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MrsRabbits · 18/05/2021 18:01

The more you talk, the more it sounds like neither of you are that effective at communicating. It’s impossible to tell whether that’s just together or whether that’s an issue you’d each take on into other relationships.

She’s partly right I think that spending time together, being physically affectionate with each other might bring some closeness which you might then be able to build on but it really sounds like it’s been going on too long and the problems are too entrenched.

What do you do when she touches you up?

LostInManchester · 18/05/2021 18:11

@MrsRabbits I agree with your point on communication. And I worry about it. I worry that I will take this issue into another relationship yes. Its a conundrum - I don't express my opinions or feelings much, but I feel when I do they are turned back on me. So when I say I want more sex, her response is 'you have too high expectations'.. or 'the issue is with your lack of orgasm'. Then I say "why don't we try something different in the bedroom" and she says she doesn't like anything other than missionary or her on top. So I stopped asking

When she starts touching me up I just feel unsexy and turned off.

Would I be a better communicator in a different relationship?

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MrsRabbits · 18/05/2021 18:21

I think I agree with other posters. It’s dead. As a dodo. You’re not going to get this back. If you have zero attraction to her then it’ll be very hard to get that back.

I’m confused by some of your comments about your sex life - if you’re sleeping separately and your sex life is non existent and has been for a while then you asking for more sex isn’t having too high expectations and her preference for just two positions shouldn’t be an issue right how. Just any physical connection would be good!

Counselling for you alone sounds like the very best option right now. See where that leads but sounds like you need some help to work out your feelings.

I really can’t see, as other posters have said, why you would want to stay.

MrsRabbits · 18/05/2021 18:22

How are you in other significant relationships with family members, friends or colleagues, do you communicate effectively with them?

LostInManchester · 18/05/2021 18:25

@MrsRabbits The more sex bit was me asking 18 months ago before we moved into separate bedrooms. Since moving out I've felt the physical attraction dwindle....

Thanks for all your help, a lot to think about and process

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MrsRabbits · 18/05/2021 18:55

Good luck. My situation is different because we have kids, one of whom is severely learning disabled and the other has additional needs also. But, I am 10 years further down the line than you. Don’t waste your life on something so unfulfilling when you’re not tied and don’t have to be.

Whosaidcake · 18/05/2021 19:34

Life is too short to be living like this and you are not even 40.

I have two young dc with my dh and as a result, our sex life is non existent and has been for a very long time but we laugh about it and we are still affectionate In other ways without it having to be sexual.

You and your DW are not right for each other anymore and deep down you probably already know it. What's keeping you together is the fear of making it official and moving forward separately even though you are subconsciously already separating hence sleeping in separate rooms.

Op, you have tried doing your best for the relationship. Now trying doing the best for you and live your life.

WhatMattersMost · 18/05/2021 21:26

@LostInManchester - Leave. Find yourself. Then find someone else. But you really do need to find yourself first, because you've lost something vital about you in this relationship - so much so, that you're not able to step back and see things clearly. So, yes, leave.

SwordofGryffindor · 20/05/2021 12:36

You sound like such a great guy. Sooo patient and understanding. Leave before you waste your life on this woman. You will find someone better.

PinotPony · 20/05/2021 13:27

She sounds like she's pretty horrible to you, dismissing your concerns and putting you down all the time. No wonder you felt pressure to perform! I can't imagine many men would be able to "finish" with someone who isn't nice to be around.

You sound like you tolerate all this negative behaviour because you feel guilty that she's lost her parents after years of caring for them. But that's not your fault, it's just life.

You clearly want to find happiness but, if she won't accept there's a problem or just blames you for the issues, then I doubt things will improve.

Honestly, I think your marriage is over. The resentment you feel now will just get worse if it isn't addressed. You sound worn down by it all and you're not even 40!

Don't leave it another 10 years before finding your happiness. Get out now and find the life that you want and deserve.

JustAnotherOldMan · 20/05/2021 16:28

Split as fast as you can, then find someone who deserves you,
If your not yet 40 you still have time to start a family

NakedBanana · 20/05/2021 16:42

Blimey! Your marriage is dead in the water!!

Move out and move on!!

You both deserve happiness either alone or with other people.

I don't believe in a million years the councillor said that!

candycane222 · 20/05/2021 16:43

This is way too unhappy a home to bring children into. If you want children, find someone who you really love being with, who you fancy and respect, and who fancies and respects you, and see if parenting is definitely definitely something you both long and yearn to do together. Parenting is hard.

The thought of being a child in this cold, unhappy home is horrible. You and your DW should not become parents together.

Aquamarine1029 · 20/05/2021 16:51

Your marriage has been dead pretty much from the start. What a tragic waste of so many years, and your wife does not have the right to keep you trapped in this hell.

Get a solicitor and end this nightmare. Don't waste another day.

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