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Am I overreacting?

40 replies

possiblytoosuperficial · 17/05/2021 14:50

It's come to light over the past few years (i.e. not during one heat of the moment comment) that my husband doesn't consider me particularly attractive, and never actually has. Recently it came up again, and I asked him if he considers any aspects of my face ugly; he indicated that he does, but he won't tell me what, exactly. I asked him if he thinks I have nice eyes (my best feature, I think). He said no. Nice smile? Again, no. I asked him if there's any aspect of my face that he likes, and he thought for a long time, and then said "I like your cheeks when you smile". I told him that being so specific actually kind of feels worse, like he really has to dig deep to think of something he likes to the point that it's not actually a compliment, and his response was basically a there's-no-pleasing-you sort.

I'm quite upset that he essentially considers me facially unattractive. He clearly thinks I'm overreacting, and has said that he loves me and that should be enough. I honestly don't know what to think. Would this upset you? I actually (used to) think I'm fairly nice looking (questioning that now), and I know it's all kind of superficial, but ultimately I want my partner to think the same. My belief is that most people feel similarly. He thinks otherwise, and has hinted that placing importance on his opinion of my appearance is wrong and a bit weird of me.

There's no way I'm discussing this with people I know, but I'm pretty confused and sad about it all. I've signed up especially to post, though I've read threads on Mumsnet on and off for years. Do I just need to get over it/myself?

OP posts:
Rebelwithverysharpclaws · 17/05/2021 20:17

Well isn't he a cunt! He has hurt you because he wants to undermine your self esteem. I imagine you are more attractive than him. I would not be shagging this prince again until he grovelled on the floor to me weeping with remorse. He has given me the fucking rage.

me4real · 17/05/2021 20:21

My libido has been affected by his perception of me (again, possibly weird of me? Would other people feel this way?) and he'd been complaining about the infrequency of sex, so I was trying to scrounge a compliment.

@possiblytoosuperficial I think everyone would feel less sexually confident (especially with their partner) if their partner had said this stuff to them.

Sooo, he's sexually manipulative. I think that's one of the most repulsive and vile things a man can be.

Maybe he thinks insulting you will make you want to be sexual with him for validation or something.

He's awful OP.

RandomMess · 17/05/2021 20:32

Does this mean he has never told you things like "you're beautiful", "you looking stunning" etc not even if you've got dressed up to go out?

PandaLady · 17/05/2021 20:55

Relationships are not meant to be this hard or this unfulfilling.

A very basic requirement of loving someone is loving their physical aspect. Someone doesn't have to be 'beautiful' to have their partner for life find them beautiful.

I'm sure there are plenty of folk who don't find me a looker but my husband isn't one of them. If he ever started feeling that way it would be over.

Anotheruser02 · 17/05/2021 21:00

I feel like I throw the term negging out on this board a bit too much, but seriously It's like abusing for beginners eroding someones self worth with insults, it's apparently supposed to make the victim crave the approval of the abuser.

I would be absolutely shocked if someone dated and then married someone they thought to be facially ugly, there is just no way he would be married to you if he thought that.
Your real problem is that he wants you to think he finds you ugly.
Your husband is a cunt. Sorry OP Flowers

dramalessllama · 17/05/2021 21:18

Oh honey. Just no. You need and deserve to be with someone who thinks you are beautiful as you are.

Fuck him.

Dump him.

Sending you love and strength! xx

CarbsAreNotMyFriend · 17/05/2021 21:24

This is horrible to read OP. Your partner is the one who is supposed to build you up, make you feel beautiful (regardless of what other people might think), boost your confidence etc.

This is not a healthy relationship in my opinion, you've come away from that conversation feeling totally wounded.

I think it's especially cruel to say he doesn't think you have nice eyes & smile. That actually doesn't make sense, how can he be in love with you but not enjoy your eyes and smile?! Is he cruel in other ways?

tellmetologoffIamaMNaddict · 17/05/2021 21:27

He's an arsehole who either doesn't care about your self esteem or is actively trying to destroy it. Also I don't believe him.

Lozzerbmc · 17/05/2021 21:41

I agree what he has said is very cruel. He’s never told you that you are beautiful? Dont believe him

Lunettesloupes · 17/05/2021 21:58

It’s a well practiced control tactic of abusers to criticise aspects of their partner’s appearance and/or character and then claim they are the only ones who can love them.

moonriverandme · 17/05/2021 23:00

How horrible for you OP. This is emotional abuse. He sounds horrible. Why are you still with him? it sounds as if things haven't been good for a while, I'm not suprised your libido has taken a dive, I wouldn't let him anywhere near me. In your place I would seriously consider the future of this relationship. Speak to Women's Aid and consider your options. 💐

billy1966 · 17/05/2021 23:25

Just awful to read.

Nasty man intent on putting you down.

I wouldn't want someone so nasty near me.

Protect yourself OP.

No one who truly loved you would say these things.

You sound very vulnerable.

Be careful.

He's just a nasty prick.
Flowers

FencesandFlowers · 18/05/2021 00:10

This is so sad to read - I'm sorry OP.

I think couples get together because they want to shag the pants off each other. Then that settles into a kind of "I really fancied you once so let's keep going" scenario.

Then the memories keep everything alive forever more (in a slow dwindling fashion).

But your DH putting this full stop under your relationship is something else. If I were you I'd go ahead on Tinder and happily shag under 25s for the next decade!

Sakurami · 18/05/2021 00:17

What a bastard. And I bet your really pretty.

I've never had to ask because my partners, regardless of how crap they've been with other stuff have always told me I'm beautiful and also.complimented specific things about me. Like I have them. Not because we are but because in our eyes we are.

JackieTheFart · 18/05/2021 00:38

I think it’s cruel for a person to say that.

Particularly as: “A person who has good thoughts cannot ever be ugly. You can have a wonky nose and a crooked mouth and a double chin and stick-out teeth, but if you have good thoughts they will shine out of your face like sunbeams and you will always look lovely.” - Roald Dahl.

My husband calls me beautiful in a misty-eyed sort of way. I’m not beautiful, I wasn’t even in the soft bloom of youth, but he loves me and to him, that is beautiful.

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