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Do you think he's always been this way or changed since her?

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Gettingbacktoitnow · 13/05/2021 16:44

I've walked away from someone 2 days ago scratching my head after 7 months of what I now realise was quite bizarre. Nothing made sense really looking back and I must have been blind for a while as I look back now and think oh dear. What an earth was that?

Basically this guy was 2 years single. You can see from his Facebook his ex holds something special to him. She's still everywhere. He said he sometimes thought about taking certain pictures of her down but they are his memories.

In the photos it seems he went away alot with her family and they were the youngest couple in the trips.

They lived in her house. He claimed to have paid for alot of things in the house and left with nothing for his efforts. He is now living in a half furbished house in a rough area. I always felt after 9 years why did he have nothing to show.

As time went on she was coming up in various ways. They were still in contact. It was weird. He would describe her as his little sister now. But I think that was an excuse. When you went in his house bits of her were everywhere. It bugged me but I hoped he would move on as we were seemingly doing great.

Fast forward a few more months and I realised he was a narcissist. I'm not the first girl who's had her heart broken by this man. He is a coward.once he's had enough he blocks and runs. Has new women to talk to in no time.

He did everything on the list
Over keen at first.
Sob stories.
Gifts.
Soulmates
Love.
Constant contact.
Making out I was the only girl he had ever felt so strongly for.

If I offered him space or an evening to chill without contact he'd flip. He was selfish. Learned he was an ex drinker. He was terrible with money. Wasn't eating properly.

Started pulling me to pieces. Putting me down in various ways Telling lies. Blaming me for every problem we had. Borrowing money. I was starting to walk on egg shells and felt I was managing him. Felt like his mother listening to his problems.

I started realising he had no family in his life. He was negative about everyone. No friends. All these women who he claimed had stalked him were victims of him and his games. It became one massive explosion of truths last week and I thought it's time to get out.

I ended it. But I am now absolutely confused about his ex. She was always lurking around like a bad smell. She knew about me. She dumped him because he was always cheating and needing her money.
How come she ended it and has remained clinging to him? Is this because he's guilt tripped her? Or has he turned horrible since loosing her?

I can see he doesn't give two hoots about me or several other women he's had 4-8 month relationships with. We clearly meant nothing despite his efforts. So what's the deal with this ex? Why does she seem to mean so much to him still? Is it possible that he loves her so painfully and he can't stand the thought of moving on as that ends them for him emotionally?

I've never come across such a weird set up between exes. Most people don't stay friends when the relationship ended on such rubbish terms. It was hardly the happy ending he claimed. It was an ending due to lies and cheating and arguments.

Anyone clued up on narcs?

OP posts:
RLEOM · 16/05/2021 01:08

I could've easily written this about my ex. Absolute shit show of a man. So easy to fall in love with but a total headfuck because of the same reasons you mentioned.

Honestly, you're better off without this one. The whole "She's like a sister to me," thing is bullshit. He's still in love with her. Please don't drag this out any longer. Flowers

Gettingbacktoitnow · 16/05/2021 09:33

@RLEOM

Sorry to hear you went through the same. He's definitely not over her and I think he hates that he lost her. He had to stand on his own two feet after her. I think he love hates her. It's turned into a spiteful thing between them. They don't want eachother as they know it can't really work. But then I feel he's perhaps rubbing women in her face and she's thinking I'm going to stick around to proove to myself he won't love them any better than me.

He's wrecked my head but I'm trying my best to get over all the lies.

How long did it take you to forget?

Thanks for your kind reply

OP posts:
baileys6904 · 16/05/2021 10:17

Sorry op but @intruth @autumnalrain and @tonimitchell have provided some really good opinions and thoughts for you.
Not everything can be labelled with some undiagnosed or mumsnet buzzword to explain away any behaviour
Even if this chap is a 'narcissist', people can choose how they react to him. Your asking a bunch of random strangers who don't know you, him, or his exes to explain away some set of circumstances that you are only giving your POV on, and ultimately advise tell you what was going through his head.
Who the fuck knows
Perhaps instead of looking at him, his intentions and thoughts, look at your own and build on help you need to make yourself happy. Then you can have control over your life and relationships in the future rather than just keep analysing other peoples, in your past.
And by the way, getting angry with folk that disagree with you, accusing them of bullying is pretty distasteful and minimising bullying to those experiencing it. This is a forum and you're asking for people's opinions. Just because they don't fit your narrative doesn't make them bullying

MyUkulele · 16/05/2021 10:49

Wow this was a lot to come back to. But I think I have a character profile now. You like to label people as a ‘stalker’ ‘bully’ ‘narcissist’ because that makes you the victim.

Spot on.

I think, OP, you need to uncover why it is that you feel the need to be the 'victim'. What does it give you? What do you get from it?

Because, if you are the poster who stalked the ex (and I don't know because I haven't advance searched), then your feelings amd behaviours should be your priority. Not his.

He may well be using other women to try amd make her jealous. But dies it matter? If he is truly out of your life, his behaviours amd wagons don't matter. What you need to ask yourself is why you ignored all the red flags knowing exactly where you would end up with him.

MyUkulele · 16/05/2021 10:50

Reasons not wagons! Confused

RLEOM · 16/05/2021 13:46

@Gettingbacktoitnow

I'm not over it. 3 years on and my heart still breaks when i hear about couples who say "he/she's my best friend," on the TV, in real life etc. I was played from start to finish, never felt like his number 1 choice even though he was mine. All the lies, the game playing, the headfuckery, the rejection. I loved him so, so much, we'd just had a child, and even though it was obvious they were flirting in front of me (they'd both get a kick out of it, too), he'd make out like I was crazy, that she was just a friend.

Now I don't want to date anyone because I can't trust. I don't want a man with female friends (never bothered me before), I don't want to date a single dad because what if they funked over their child's mother and therefore their own child?

Honestly, the less lain you experience, the less damage there will be. Why be someone's obvious second best?

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