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Non-fatal attraction (Stupid infatuation)

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larkstar · 12/05/2021 17:45

I'll try and keep it light and to the point. Something that's been playing on my mind on and off since a very strange incident in 1997 although the first 10 years I didn't think too much about it but it's has started to come mind more over the last 18 months; I just want to get it down in writing, get it off my chest as this is not something I have talked about with anyone - not that I can't talk about - I just think it sounds so weird and I wonder what people will think of me if I tell what happend.

I was at work and I got a phone call from my best mate of about 5 years - that's very odd - he's never rang me at work before. He apologised and said it was important and I was fine - sure - anything for a precious friend - I was worried for him. He said his wife had got it in her head that - I don't know quite how to put his - that we were meant to be together - apparently she had strong feelings for me and thought it was reciprocated. Honest to God - I have no idea where this idea came from - it's shocking isn't it? I've never, since or before - heard of anything like this - we had never had any kind of conversation about anything like this - we had only met when I or me and my wife met them at either our house or theirs or when we went out for walks with our very young kids - the link between us all we between me and my friend - our wives didn't know each other to begin with but were friendly and we all got on - everything was nice - it was good. Anyway - back to the phone call - my friend - I could hear his voice trembling - it was heartbreaking when he asked me what I wanted to do about it - I was so taken aback - I told him I had never had any thoughts whatsoever about anything like that - I was (still am) married to the girl I started going out with when we were both 12 - we are 59 now - we are good and will see each other through to the end of our lives. He said I needed to speak her to tell her myself and they he put her on the phone and I had to tel her that they were really important friends that we liked - lovely people, great couple but I told her I had never thought about her in any other way other than the a friend - she was slightly hard to convince - she asked me if I was sure that there was a possible life together for us - I was absolutely calm and clear in saying no. After a brief silence my friend said - look this is an awkward situation - he said he didn't think it would be possible to remain friends - and I understood that. he asked me not to get in touch with them - I totally understood that and had no problem in agreeing to it - he apologised and I said I was really sorry it had happened too. I came home and told my wife - she was equally gobsmacked.

We're 23 years down the line now and I kept my word to my friend. I have obviously had a lot to wonder about - what happened after he put the phone down. I didn't even know if they were still together - FB opened on 2004 and I didn't have an account until 2008. On my profile I have always had a message to my friend telling him I would like to be in contact - I found his profile easily enough but I've never messaged him and don't plan to. He has his privacy settings set so I can't see much but via their kids I was recently able to see that they still seem to be married which I am relieved about - actually I'd say I'm genuinely happy about that but I would never contact her either.

I feel for my friend because of what happened - God knows how they have worked their way though it - hopefully they were able to reconcile it the way I have (in part!) - I can't even speculate on what was going on with them - I've no idea - I think they are brilliantly suited to each other. I put it down to some stupid infatuation - being young and immature perhaps - not so worldly in terms of relationships perhaps - I'm prepared to write it off as that - my friend is the obvious innocent victim in all of this but I fell hard done to - I lost a good friend - he was the funniest guy I ever knew - charming, a good looking guy, quirky, likeable and he's always had a good job - such a lovely guy I'm sure he's been a brilliant totally involved father - I missed out on knowing him. I have mixed feelings about her - sad, sometimes a little angry about putting him through this. Perhaps my feelings are easy to over look - guilty that any of this came to the surface, angry and confused that I didn't have a clue this was coming - not one iota - I feel stupid I didn't pick up on something. The most long lasting effect for me is that I am a bit more stand-off-ish and being honest, a bit more mistrustful of women in general - I wonder if the way i am is partly to blame because in my unusually long term relationship - frankly I don't have much relationship experience - a hell of a lot with one person - I perhaps know a bit more about what it takes to keep a relationship going (at best it only a "perhaps"!). I never had to go out and meet women and win them over and I never had to worry about being in a relationship so in some ways I'm pretty comfortable around women - I don't have an agenda, hidden intentions, I don't have anything to prove... I don't know - really I don't know what to make of it. Lately it hacks me off that I had to suck it up. 99% of the time I don't think about it - now and again I miss my friend and may even feel a bit bitter about missing out, angry at her (a little bit just for her stupid immaturity of that's what it was). 99.9% of the time I have no intention of contacting either of them - her definitely not her just out of respect for my friend - occasionally I just wish they knew my side of things. I don't know their side of things either but i wouldn't want to drag up the past for them either - it would - I imagine be awkward, embarrassing, and hurtful for my friend - it's a shame there seems no way to reconnect with that happening.

I guess I just have to continue to suck it up and put it out of my mind - as I say - it's not a big issue - it just bothers me sometimes. I never had a conversation with anyone about this - it's not something that ever comes up in conversation between me and my wife - she's got no issues with ot - it was just a strange event - occasionally one of us says I wonder what happened to...

Anyway - I just wanted to write it down and get it off my chest. I'm not planning on doing anything else - I stuck it out this long. It would just have been nice to know and share something of us and them and our and their kids.

An odd story isn't it? If there's any value to anyone else in sharing it - it's doing be a selfish a*hole by bringing a stupid infatuation into the real world - people get hurt.

There are a couple of other details I might add later if anyone reads this - things that only made sense after all this nonsense.

OP posts:
isthismylifenow · 01/02/2023 11:35

This is indeed a very strange story OP.

You just never know what happens behind closed doors in a relationship though. Although he was a good friend, and you seemed really close, some things just do not get spoken about on the outside.

I suspect she had a thing for you for a while, maybe she was the one pushing your friendship, so she had the opportunity to see you more? And then things came to a head. And he chose their marriage over your friendship? Really if you think about it, it's easier to let a friendship go than a marriage when you have young children as well.

It is difficult to carry on when you have something that is so unexplained lurking. I am the type of person that needs things to be resolved before I can have closure. And I suspect it is closure that you are after. It doesn't seem likely that will happen though. He has most likely been able to move on, as he had all the information to make sense of it.

If it was a trying time, he isn't going to want to relive and explain it all now, some 20 odd years later.

I know that doesn't help you at all though.

larkstar · 01/02/2023 23:41

@isthismylifenow well of course he chose his wife over our friendship -I'd expect nothing less - he was in a no win situation - I don't think at all that he blamed me in any way - I feel horrible about it - it was clear to me that it was his wife that was going to need time to get over whatever it was, that was going on - I feel terrible for him - God knows what it must have been like for them in the months after that phone call ended. The only thing I can conjure up - and it is pure speculation - is that as they were both really attractive people - both great personalities and good looking - I had wondered if they were a little insecure with each other - but I'm really clutching at straws - I'm sure she must have, for reasons I really don't understand, let something build in her mind - why I have no idea - whatever it was I guess I must have ticked one tiny little unticked box and that caused her to throw everything out of the window - my friend was IMHO one of the nicest guys I've ever met - I don't have anything bad to say about him; I don't blame him for saying to me that - under the circumstances - he could see how we could continue to see each other and remain friends - I totally agreed.

If anything - I'd like to think that my post makes people think a bit harder about crossing the line between fantasy and reality but realistically - I doubt it will make any difference to anyone. I'm glad I wrote it down and aired it.

OP posts:
larkstar · 01/02/2023 23:45

@isthismylifenow re:closure. I reached the point where I can live with not knowing or understanding - it took some time; this conversation has helped. I feel mainly that I missed out on knowing him as a friend.

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HareAndBear · 01/02/2023 23:54

Sandra15 · 13/06/2021 00:29

I have a deja vu sense of Groundhog Day. I've seen this post before, either on here, or it's been sent into a problem page like Bel Mooney or Zelda West-Meads.

Something fishy.

Seadad · 02/02/2023 00:43

Well it seems pretty obvious to me OP and I'm surprised it's puzzled you for so long without pondering the obvious!
You're friend harboured feelings for you. He probably talked about you gushingly, much to his partner's annoyance she came to feel she was competing with you in some sense. He then went and confessed something to her about his feelings for you which made it quite impossible for his 'innocent' friendship to be maintained without threatening their marriage. Indeed it sounds like he said something which made it clear that you were his 'ideal' or that your relationship with him was better than with her. She faltered slightly on being convinced by you that it was unrequited - in that you had no reciprocal feelings of that kind. So nothing would ever happen... But in the end- he couldn't be just friends, and she wouldn't have been able to stand it, knowing what she knew.
Your friend just never had the courage to tell you and sheepishly fell silent.
That's my take any way! And many early friendships have to end if one wants more than friendship and the other doesn't.

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