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Why does he keep repeating history after suicide attempt?

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Soapandbubbless · 10/05/2021 11:47

I met a man last summer. He seemed completely normal. Happy. Hard working. We got talking and realised we liked eachother with turned into 7 months of closeness and for a while I believed we would have the future we both had talked about.

I had already seen it on his social media that he had been in hospital several times just before meeting me. There were concerned posts on his wall. A cousin was answering people's questions and then there was him announcing he was home and alcohol free and determined to keep fighting. He told me in a chat a couple of weeks in he had swallowed a large amount of various pills. Text his ex and said I guess this is goodbye. She managed to call him and ring an ambulance from her housephone. He was very close to death when he was found and was in hospital for a month. Very sad.

I was aware from this point he had struggles. But we were enjoying chatting and laughed alot. We were not rushing in but we talked about perhaps some days out over the summer. He mentioned one day he could see us living together but there was no massive plans.

I started noticing he seemed abit too obsessed with his ex still. She had saved his life though so who was I to judge the closeness they had? But it became kind of clear a few months in that he was denying how much he still seemed invested in her. He would say until he was blue in the face he would never go back to her. Infact sometimes he spoke about her in quite an unkind way. He would soon go back to rose tints. In the last couple of months we were involved he was claiming she wanted him back. He kept moaning about her saying she was bored and driving him mad. But if I suggested she moved on and should be finding someone new herself he would get all possessive and said she was like his sister and he was so glad they were really close still. They had supposedly split because there grew apart! It's clear through Facebook that she went away without him several times a year and he said it made him feel really down.

Anyway we've split up now because he was starting to eye up other women. I was already suspicious of a particular woman he claimed stalked him. Then I caught him going through a woman's profile when I walked past him in the kitchen. He was not aware I had stood behind him as he had music on and this woman was half naked on the pictures he liked. He then started suggesting I wore clothes like hers in the bedroom (he didn't know I had seen) I went on her profile and saw he had liked every picture of her that was public.

Anyway after we split all the truths came out. His ex dumped him because he cheated on her with an old school flame. She told the old school flame it was the 8th time she had caught him up to no good. Six months later he moved out.

The old flame has spoken to me and we've realised he was "two timing" us both aswel. I've since clicked on that another woman he grumbled about had also suffered the same fate.

Now we are over he's moved onto another woman in a different town and she's falling for him.

I just don't understand? He's got depression. He's been an addict. He's lost the love of his life to cheating and lying. He wanted to die when he lost her and had to live alone. They've remained in this weird friendship so nobody else can be in his life properly. But he hides the truth. She knows he's attempting new relationships but won't move on herself and keeps clinging. So more and more women are getting hurt as he can only keep it up for a few months before he gets bored or cant handle it.

I just can't understand how he's survived and got his life back and this is the road he's taken.

Anyone who can understand this please help me to understand. I almost contacted his new woman. But I didn't because I'd look stupid. But I'm sad for her because of what she has got to come.

He was also lashing out at me with aggressive words. Borrowing money. Lying to me. Would not let me talk about how I felt. Shut me down. Putting me down with nit picking comments on my looks and intelligence.

He's got no family involved with him now either. Which kinda speaks for itself.

Not sure if anyone has been through similar?

OP posts:
username12345T · 10/05/2021 11:51

Sweet Jesus OP. Why are you still involved? Let him get on with it. Look how enmeshed you are in all this, you're even on a forum writing about it.

PlanDeRaccordement · 10/05/2021 11:51

Hmm. Sounds like a personality disorder. Maybe EUPD.

Grimsknee · 10/05/2021 12:14

Personality disorder ahoy. The drama is his motivation - write yourself out of it asap.

Soapandbubbless · 10/05/2021 12:28

I'm out of it now for sure. He's far too negative for me even without the women. He's his own worst enemy. Blames everyone but himself. I just get I'm trying to make sense of it all. It's been really bizarre. But looking forward to concentrating on myself again.

OP posts:
whymewhyme · 10/05/2021 12:33

You've dodged a bullet, hes a nutter!

username12345T · 10/05/2021 12:39

@Soapandbubbless

I'm out of it now for sure. He's far too negative for me even without the women. He's his own worst enemy. Blames everyone but himself. I just get I'm trying to make sense of it all. It's been really bizarre. But looking forward to concentrating on myself again.
OP said with love, read up on co dependence, boundaries and relationship red flags. Do something like the Freedom Programme and focus on yourself, like you said.

You should have run at the first sign, so you were brought up in a dysfunctional household with a narcisisstic type and were used to the behaviour or you have low self esteem. Either or, protect yourself from people like this. They are emotional vampires, feeding off drama. He sounds like a complete wanker, it doesn't matter if he has mental health issues. He's pathologically selfish and self absorbed, that's why he keeps repeating the same pattern and he likes to be the victim, but he's not. He's manipulative and nasty.

Ruminating2020 · 10/05/2021 12:46

Definitely someone with a personality disorder. There is way too much drama here and they thrive in it.

username12345T · 10/05/2021 12:51

Some books you might find helpful:

Co dependence for Dummies by Darlene Lancer
www.amazon.co.uk/Codependency-Dummies-Darlene-Lancer/dp/1118095227?tag=mumsnetforu03-21

Co dependence No More by Melodie Beattie

Why does he do that by Lundy Bancroft

Women who love too much by Robin Norwood

The Verbally Abusive relationship by Patricia Evans

ScaredOfDinosaurs · 10/05/2021 13:21

What on earth?

Please just walk away from this toxic mess. Your last paragraph alone is enough to get rid. Don't be confused by the suicide attempt, you can't fix this man and based on how he treats you, nor should you want to. Let the professionals handle it and stay away.

user1471457751 · 10/05/2021 13:31

You say you can't understand why he's like this but what you should really be asking yourself is why you went along with it.

An alcoholic who overdosed shortly after you started talking should have been enough of a warning sign that this guy was not in the right place for a relationship. And that's before you get on to all the other issues.

You need to find your self respect so you don't put yourself in this type of situation again

MarshmallowAra · 10/05/2021 13:59

If threads on here are anything to go by all.blokes who are cheaters, addicts, prostitute users etc beg, cry, threaten suicide (of even attempt it), cling etc etc when their partner finds out and ends the relationship.

Just more evidence of their fucked up edness I suppose.

The fact he's an ongoing alcoholic says a lot.

Things aren't right upstairs and thread not much point trying to figure out someone like him.

MarshmallowAra · 10/05/2021 14:00

*there's

youvegottenminuteslynn · 10/05/2021 14:42

You can't rationalise the behaviour of someone behaving irrationally.

You can't reason with someone who is unreasonable.

You need to stop thinking about why he is the way he is and instead focus on why you allowed yourself to be in this relationship and why codependency is something you gravitate towards, to stop yourself repeating this dynamic in future relationships.

Mif4 · 10/05/2021 21:25

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Miasicarisatia · 10/05/2021 22:11

walk away from this toxic mess

Beeeeeeeeeeeeeep · 10/05/2021 22:14

Umm so what? Literally why do you care about why he's a massive fuck up who shits on everyone around him? Some people just are. Now be thankful you're out of it and get some therapy because this We were not rushing in but we talked about perhaps some days out over the summer. He mentioned one day he could see us living together is mad

rattlemehearties · 10/05/2021 22:24

He's not your problem.

You don't need to save him.

Walk away.

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