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Child of Alcoholics - How can I thrive

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ThirdTimeIucky · 30/04/2021 20:51

So my marriage collapsed last year. Which brings with it a degree of self reflection. A huge amount to be honest. I have struggled for years and blamed it on feeling stressed, tiredness, depression, being pregnant, having a baby, hormones. Always trying to pretend it had nothing to do with absolute mess I spent my childhood in, something I had buried years ago.

But sadly I can now see. I constantly crave reassurance, while refusing to accept praise. I take on the responsibility for the mood of others. Always the negative, never the positive. So if my husband was slightly quiet or a bit moody, I was see that as my fault and my responsibility. I constantly think people are angry with me, or hate me. I panic at intimacy. Particularly if I feel I will dissapoint him if I don't feel up to doing the deed. Which means I back off entirely with no real explanation. I fear anger and rage, conflict of any kind I avoid. I react fiercely to the strangest things. I can't deal with stress or sudden upheaval. I have low self esteem. I'm an absolute bloody mess and a nightmare to live with.

When I was very young my parents were both alcoholics. I remember not really understanding at that age, the insane highs and the terrifying lows. The fights, shouting, violence, drunken dancing to ABBA.

Later my Dad gave up and either enabled my Mum, or had a fit of conscience, where he would empty all her home brew down the drain, and she would hit him round the head.

Dad took jobs away from home, so generally me and my little sister dealt with Mum on our own. Often she would pass out on the sofa and we would have to try and get her to bed, because she had a shift in the morning. She would be verbally abusive. Or she would then put her TV on so loud that we couldn't sleep, and had to creep in at 2 in the morning to turn it off.

Sometimes we had to sober her up after school before Dad came home on a Friday otherwise he would go ballistic.

I knew our neighbours hated us. Some of the parents of other children even pitied us I suppose. But my Dad was in a job where if any of this was found out, or the police got involved, he'd be sacked.

I remember the split lips Mum had, Dad's broken glasses. I remember once screaming at him, because I thought he'd killed her. Sometimes he had knocked her out, sometime she would play at it. Both terrified the shit out of me.

I hated the weekends. They were times of conflict, and booze. We never went anywhere other than pubs. I feared Friday, because Dad pandered to Mum to keep her happy, so any small misdemeanours in the week would be bought up when he came home and he'd shout at us.

I remember finding out about his affairs, and trying to keep the peace by hiding it from Mum. She realised I knew, and made me say on him. I was piggy in the middle on a hideous scale.

To vent the anger they couldn't vent on each other, we ended up getting it.

I remember filling the booze bottle with water, after we'd tipped it away, or putting the hidden ones in her room in the bin.

I remember fearing that slur and slackened face, when we returned from home after school. Knowing it was going to be a horrid evening.

And now my life is an utter fucking mess. Oddly I'm pretty successful. I have a decent Civil Service middle management job. But I think its really hit me what a mental mess I am. I still love my husband. But honestly I'm a complete mess. And I have no idea what to do about it. Finances are tight. I've tried counselling before and I really don't think it did much so I'm loathed to throw money I don't have at it.

How can I help myself? How do I break this cycle of shit?

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Chicchicchicchiclana · 30/04/2021 20:54

Perhaps you would benefit from some sessions with Al-Anon? It's still relevant to you even though you have long since moved out of your parents home. I would strongly recommend them.

ThirdTimeIucky · 30/04/2021 21:14

@chicchicchicchiclana. I'd never heard of them but will give it a go.

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Theshoepeople · 30/04/2021 21:22

Hi OP. I feel for you, I have had some similar experiences and that 'slackened face' comment in particular resonated with me.
This is only a starting point, but I found the 'Overcoming' series of books helpful, specifically 'Overcoming' low self esteem' and 'overcoming perfectionism' (the 'look at me! Am I good enough?' aspect of being a child of pissed parents) They are CBT themed books that the NHS recommend alongside or in prep for their short therapy courses.

I looked into al-anon but couldn't get along with their ethos. Depends what works for you.

Apileofballyhoo · 30/04/2021 21:30

There's a book, Adult Children of Alcoholics or some title like that (my DM was very annoyed I bought it). There's also 'Codependent No More', and 'Homecoming: Reclaiming and Championing your Inner Child'. IIRC the author of the latter is an adult child of an alcoholic.

Al-Anon will also really help you.

I'm sorry you went through that shit. You deserved to be cared for and nurtured and feel loved and safe and secure in your home. What happened was abusive and neglectful and terribly, terribly unfair.

ThirdTimeIucky · 30/04/2021 21:53

Thank you @Theshoepeople I will try those. Thank you

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Whydidimarryhim · 30/04/2021 22:03

There’s a 12 step fellowship - adult children of alcoholics- great organisation.

Loopyloo1985 · 30/04/2021 22:06

I would also recommend NACOA for some help. They are very understanding and have some great resources and I say this as a 39 year old mum of 2. My dad is still an alcoholic after all these years and I can really relate to everything you have said, in particular the never going anywhere other than the pub and the fights. I also clearly remember the 'poor me's ' after a good drinking session. Hope you are ok x

fdsit21 · 30/04/2021 22:12

I'm with you op. I spent most of my childhood in beer gardens, and then hosing sick off clothes in the bath.

I don't know what to say. It stays with you. I'm still messed up. Thanks

HopeClearwater · 30/04/2021 22:17

Find NACOA on Facebook / Instagram and start from there. Flowers

Tabooandlemonade · 30/04/2021 22:23

Parts of your OP read like my own diary. I had therapy last year when sudden furlough meant I had time to think and reflect on my mental state for the first time in decades. My therapist has changed my life: an addition specialist, she got me to see things differently and the anger, rage and contempt I felt for my alcoholic parent coupled with similar feelings and ways of behaving to those you describe have changed too.

And I’m so much happier, more self-aware, and have much greater insight into why I react in ways and feel things. Eg taking on other’s happiness - I’m doing that less. That in itself has changed my life. I cannot recommend a good psychologist enough.

I also second the book recommendations above and must add (slightly hysterical title but excellent content) ‘After the Tears: Helping Adult Children of Alcoholics Heal Their Childhood Trauma’

You can break this cycle but you might need some help like I did. It’s the best money I ever spent, ever, hands down.

ThirdTimeIucky · 30/04/2021 23:03

@tabooandlemonade. Thank you. Perhaps its worth finding a good one. I'm currently reading After the Tears, which at times really touches a sore spot.

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LitCrit · 30/04/2021 23:20

I would say that you had a very difficult childhood and that you need to work with a psychotherapist rather than a counsellor. I personally don't think that a counselling training is nearly rigorous or long enough to be able to help with the kind of trauma that you have suffered.

I'm very sorry that you had such a terrible time.

Borington · 30/04/2021 23:23

You should have access to free counselling (6 sessions initially but can be extended to 12) through the CS Employee Assistance Programme. Have you called them? It doesn’t have to be work related.

ThirdTimeIucky · 01/05/2021 09:47

Thank you @Borington I had no idea!

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Tuesdaysintheazores · 01/05/2021 16:52

Hello to everyone on here and thanks OP for starting the thread. It can be helpful to remember that other people get it Flowers What has helped me a lot, as well as therapy, is the books by Melody Beattie, especially Codependent no more, and also writing a journal. Even then, I haven't got over it but I think it's something you learn to live with, especially since alcohol is such a big part of the culture we live in

DancesWithFelines · 02/05/2021 00:25

I’ve recommended this a couple of times on here now but there is a new book called How to do the work by Dr Nicole Lepera. She is also known as the Holistic Psychologist on FB and Instagram.
I’ve had a fair bit of therapy but this book has helped me more with understanding trauma/triggers but also steps to heal going forward. Basically as COA our vagus nerve/immune systems become dysfunctional (fight or flight) and we have to work on that to heal.

Also NACOA is great.

lothermand · 02/05/2021 02:43

Google ACA adult children of alcoholics. A great support network, face to face meetings (Pre pandemic) zoom meetings at the moment.

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