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Tell me what to do please!

17 replies

waitingforautumn · 26/04/2021 21:31

OK I'll try not to ramble...

I've had a work crush for about 3 three years - no kidding! Just a bit of fun really and someone to look nice for on the off chance I saw him around (come on, we've all been there). But that's all it was... our teams have absolutely nothing to do with each other, we just used to see each other around the building every now and then or i'd have to pass through his department every once in a while. I would never have summoned up the courage to ask him out, I was convinced he'd have a gf or something so would inevitably have spared myself the embarrassment of getting to that point.

Over December lockdown (we've been remote working since March 2020), he sent me a Teams message out of the blue, and it turns out I have been his work crush these past few years too... (!).

We started talking/texting, and we have so much in common. We then had one date (outdoors) a few months ago, and we had an ok time but honestly i think I was in quite a bit of discomfort the whole time since it was a freezing day, there was obviously nowhere to really get food or eat it, so the date was just walking and talking without the ease of dropping into a chair and getting comfy.

However it turns out he had a way better time on this date than me... he came away on cloud 9 it seems whereas I came away feeling pretty unsure... IMO the date didn't go badly as such, but I can't say I lost track of time, you know? He didn't seem as attractive as I'd remembered him from work (sorry to come across as shallow), but it was like I'd just met up with someone totally unfamiliar rather than someone i'd been admiring from a distance for so long. There also just wasn't a spark like I'd assumed there'd be?? Which was a surprise since we hit things off SO well by text. In short I came away feeling...icky. And I can't pinpoint why.

He however, had a great time. Later that evening we were on the phone and I kindly told him that I wasn't really feeling it and hoped we could meet up as friends for a bit, so I could get to know him without pressure, rather than going out on actual dates. He was fine with this but seemed a bit disappointed in himself, as if he felt he could have done something differently.

Fast forward to Valentines day... he goes overboard by sending me a crazy long letter describing how completely wonderful I am and some gifts. It sounds sweet but the letter really was A LOT - it made me feel queasy tbh, and considering I told him I didn't want to date at that time, I felt really annoyed that he'd totally not heard what I'd asked for and that he thought it would be appropriate to send me all this stuff.

Fast forward another couple of months... I'm sat here thinking damn, maybe I overreacted. Based on my past, I do think I have commitment issues, and I do have a history of running a mile whenever someone shows interest in me... as well as a history of favouring the emotionally unavailable guys. I can't tell if I have a genuine ick here or if I'm just running away from something potentially really promising just because seeing him would now be totally out of my comfort zone?

I've been single for absolutely years (late 20s, no kids, never been married or engaged etc) and really don't want to look back on this wishing I'd given it a chance. Like I said we really have lots of common ground, and on paper he's perfect for me. I just didn't recognise the person I met up with irl and then he scared me off by being far more interested in me, than I him.

My friends are pretty unhelpful and are all torn between the following viewpoints: a) this is so typical of you b) you haven't even given him a chance yet c) well if there's any kind ick he's beyond hope so move on...

What advice would you give someone in these shoes? If even the briefest thought pops into your head, pretty please don't leave without sharing...! I feel like a big baby and am in need of some wisdom... Thank you xxx

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Norabatty40 · 26/04/2021 21:43

I was completely put off my OH after our first date for various reason.. i walked away thinking nope dont want to see him again. However, he was persistent and eventually i agreed to a second date but my heart wasnt in it. Fast forward he actually turned out to be the love of my life and i got it wrong

So i say give him a chance Smile

Freestylemum · 26/04/2021 21:48

Given how long had elapsed between last seeing him in the office and then eventually going on a lockdown date, it was always likely to be tricky IMO. You may have built up unrealistic ideals of him based on glimpsing / crushing on him
In the office. When you found out he felt the same, your heart must have soared. Then you find out you have so much in common etc etc. You must have felt giddy with excitement before meeting him. Perhaps expectations were very high and a bit unrealistic. Then a freezing walk with nowhere to go, possibly put a dampener on things. Plus maybe he wasn't as gorgeous / appealing as you remember. So I do think there may have been unrealistic expectations at play a little. On top of that, he seems to have really developed feelings since your walk date and is a bit smitten, when you aren't feeling it - and he didn't really 'hear you' when you were explaining this. So quite understandable if you are feeling a bit unheard / suffocated. However, I wouldn't give up just yet. I think now that it is spring going into summer and pub gardens etc are open, you should go on a couple of 'friendly' walks / visits to the beer gardens (no expectations) / anything else that we are now permitted to do that makes a meet up a bit 'lighter' and just go with an open mind. Drop any expectations. See how you feel. No one is perfect and there must have been a spark (albeit from a distance) once which is something worth exploring. Give him another go Grin

TwinkleToeMatilda · 26/04/2021 21:51

Oooh this is a tough one! I do think you need the initial attraction and having the ick is usually a write off for me. But what’s the harm in just seeing him a few more times (without leading him on, remain honest) and see where it goes? I do think attraction grows.

Sophw92 · 26/04/2021 21:54

I think you should see him again, you can go on another date with him without making any comittment and it won't be a big deal. Even if he is not right for you it will give you clarity and will ultimately be a good thing, better than feeling unsure. Plus it sounds like the date was bad mainly cause of the hunger and cold not him!

category12 · 26/04/2021 21:59

Is he still sniffing round or are you just regretting it months later?

Bluntness100 · 26/04/2021 22:03

Hmm I think once you’ve got thr ick it’s game over, are you just trying to talk yourself into it because you’re lonely and considering settling? As in he’s better than no one?

Alex908 · 26/04/2021 22:16

Sounds like you had just built a fantasy about him. Pretty common in the workplace.

Yellowhighheels · 26/04/2021 22:29

Hmm... I can see why you felt he overstepped on Valentine's day but on the other hand (and I have had a huge work crush before!) there was no way a chilly walk was ever going to live up to your expectations and hopes. If he was kind, you had stuff in common and you enjoyed your conversation on the walk even if there were a lot fewer sparks than there could have been, I would be inclined to give it another go, with no pressure, in a more comfy setting, say a pub with a nice garden. I would suggest it as a friendly drink though, so as to manage his hopes in case it doesn't feel right again.

Only caveat being that if the content of his letter was inappropriate or love bombing rather than just over effusive, I would avoid meeting again.

waitingforautumn · 26/04/2021 22:36

@Yellowhighheels

Hmm... I can see why you felt he overstepped on Valentine's day but on the other hand (and I have had a huge work crush before!) there was no way a chilly walk was ever going to live up to your expectations and hopes. If he was kind, you had stuff in common and you enjoyed your conversation on the walk even if there were a lot fewer sparks than there could have been, I would be inclined to give it another go, with no pressure, in a more comfy setting, say a pub with a nice garden. I would suggest it as a friendly drink though, so as to manage his hopes in case it doesn't feel right again.

Only caveat being that if the content of his letter was inappropriate or love bombing rather than just over effusive, I would avoid meeting again.

Hello yellowhighheels - thank you for reading and for taking the time to reply, I really appreciate it. Your end suggestion sounds so sensible - just to be clear it was definitely over-effusive (the perfect word!), nothing inappropriate or love bomby etc... just kind of nauseating to read!
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waitingforautumn · 26/04/2021 22:43

@category12

Is he still sniffing round or are you just regretting it months later?
After Valentine's I explained his gesture was too much and suggested we just don't talk for a bit, and vaguely implied that once pubs/restaurants open up it might be easier to go out again (rather than trying to make plans while the country is in lockdown). He continued to reach out though, and it felt uneasy to keep texting without making plans to meetup, so I just started ignoring his texts. I'd say ball is in my court if I want to try again.
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waitingforautumn · 26/04/2021 22:45

@Norabatty40

I was completely put off my OH after our first date for various reason.. i walked away thinking nope dont want to see him again. However, he was persistent and eventually i agreed to a second date but my heart wasnt in it. Fast forward he actually turned out to be the love of my life and i got it wrong

So i say give him a chance Smile

I love stories like this! This is giving me a huge surge of confidence haha. May I ask what the various reasons were that put you off to start with? Grin
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RealisticSketch · 26/04/2021 22:50

I think given your history it is possible the ick is not real.
My dh is not as good at allowing himself to be open to serious feelings as me (both our family histories account for the difference), in our relationship I was happy to acknowledge the strength of my feelings wayyyyy before he was. I respected that in him, he resurrected that in me, it didn't really matter that we weren't on the same page exactly for a while as long as we both enjoyed what was happening. In the end tortoise and hare style we both ended up in the same place, married+kids now.
So I think, taking away the massive expectations & crappy freezing cold date option & aversion to discovering someone is keen, you should keep an open mind for now. Try to get to know the real him a bit in a situation where you won't feel overwhelmed. If his over effusive style is a bulldozer of never ending one-sided gush (we could allow him a little leeway for being keen and not wanting to let you sleep through his fingers initially) then you can reassess if the ick is real.

PoTheDog · 26/04/2021 22:59

Tbh if I asked a man repeatedly to back off and he didn't it would be over for me. It's rude, dismissive of your feelings and disrespectful.

Mind you, I also hate the idea that some men have that persistence "wins" a woman, so am probably sensitive to it. But it worries me that if a man ignores anything that doesn't fit his narrative at the start, when is he ever going to start listening and really hearing you?

youvegottenminuteslynn · 26/04/2021 23:05

@PoTheDog

Tbh if I asked a man repeatedly to back off and he didn't it would be over for me. It's rude, dismissive of your feelings and disrespectful.

Mind you, I also hate the idea that some men have that persistence "wins" a woman, so am probably sensitive to it. But it worries me that if a man ignores anything that doesn't fit his narrative at the start, when is he ever going to start listening and really hearing you?

God 100000% times this! You set a boundary, he ignored it. And not just that, went full throttle. Not a good sign IMO.
Savoretti · 26/04/2021 23:14

I think it’s not fair on him for you to go back now. You have been ignoring his messages and if you suddenly suggest meeting up you are getting his hopes up again - when it isn’t that you are keen, more that you are just bored perhaps. I think if you had wanted a second date you would have gone for it at the time

Sunflower1970 · 27/04/2021 02:35

TBh if I was as him I would move on. Yea - he maybe overstepped the mark but for you to ignore him and then toy with him is unfair. Leave the poor bloke be

Shelddd · 27/04/2021 02:44

I think it's a little complicated.

It sounds like you were possibly looking for something wrong in him once he showed some enthusiasm, this is so incredibly common that many men adjust to it after they've dated a but and know they intentionally have to play aloof at first. He might just be inexperienced and not understand that dynamic.

On the other hand like people have mentioned you gave clear instructions that you wanted some space and he didn't give that to you, could signal something not so appealing to deal with.

I don't know.

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