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23 with 14 month old. Lazy partner. Does it get better?

58 replies

tiredyoungmama · 05/04/2021 21:53

This is going to be a long one. Bare with me.
I am 23 (F) and live with my partner 23 (M). We have been living together 3yrs in August. Together 9 years in October, engaged for 4 years and have a 14 month old.

He was brought up in a very strict household as the middle child with 2 younger and 2 older brothers. He was taught from a young age to be responsible, tidy up, do chores etc and punished harshly if he missed something.
I am an only child, my parents were not 'strict' per se but I did my fair share as a kid and stepped up at 13 when my Dad left, to help mum out more.
My partner is lazy. So god damn lazy. He doesn't do anything unless he is asked to. I mean literally, anything. (He started sertraline abt 2 months ago for depression, I'll get to that later). The laziness has been a problem since we moved in together. I can't remember the last time he did any washing. He doesn't wash the baby's clothes, or ours. If I didn't do it, she'd have nothing to wear. I even got to a stage of being so annoyed a few months ago that I didn't do ANY of his washing. He had no clean clothes at all and ended up staying in the same things for a few days before I caved and did it after we'd had a serious chat about him not pulling his weight. He leaves his clothes all over the floor, (the pile in the bedroom is horrific) doesn't change often, barely showers and doesn't brush his teeth. Safe to say we have very little physical contact as his breath smells bad and he doesn't smell the best. I don't want to be around him. He doesn't ever do the dishes, never cleans ANYTHING in the house unless I bring it up, doesn't change the beds or anything. Nothing without me prompting him, unless it's the odd occasion he remembers that it's bin day and takes the bin out.
We have both been working at home since April 2020 due to covid. I work 8.30-1.30 Mon- Fri and he does 36hrs across 5 days most of the time. I look after the baby while I'm working answering calls etc and when I finish which is why I don't work full time. He doesn't ever get up with the baby on his days off, or on days that he starts significantly later than me. Despite saying every time that he will get up and make things a little easier for me. It annoys me so much that he's lazing in bed while I'm trying to get her sorted and fed and get myself ready to work.
Without me knowing he ended up £1900 in an overdraft and had taken a £1000 loan out. I was so upset as we were looking at buying a house together and he lied to my face about it all.
We have had really serious conversations multiple times about him not doing his fair share of house work, things are good for 3 days then we end up back here.
In July 2020 I left for a few days and stayed in a hotel with the baby to think things over because we'd had a particularly bad day where he gamed all day with his brothers and didn't look after the baby at all, I really lost it.
In January, I had a lot of pent up emotion and wanted a break from him because I couldn't stand being around him. Just as I was about to finalise where I was staying he decided to tell me he was depressed. So we didn't have the break. I didn't have the space I really needed. And here we are again. Its 9.40pm and he's been playing the xbox since 6 quite happily witnessing me doing housework and he's not moved an inch.

Does this get better? Will it ever get better? I cannot see myself staying in this cycle for years? I'm 23 for christ sake, this is stuff that people who have been married for 20+ years moan about. I cannot bring myself to tear the family apart but I just don't know what else I can do to change him?

TLDR; 23F and 23M. Together 9yrs. Father of my 14 month old. Does no housework unless prompted and is very lazy. I've tried everything, even leaving him for a few days to emphasise how much he needs to change and it didn't work. What now?

OP posts:
TristantheTyrannosaurus · 06/04/2021 00:51

@tiredyoungmama

Thank you for your comments. I just wish there was something, anything, I could do that would make him really understand what's on the line here. Maybe it's my own fault for threatening to leave a couple of times and never doing it because I had that glimmer of hope that he'd change for us. For our future. Guess not :-(
They don't change. They don't 'see what they lost'. Make a plan and stop wasting your life on this man. You and your child deserve so much more than a person who doesn't care about either of you, but he doesn't.
ineedaholidaynow · 06/04/2021 00:59

If he hasn’t changed now he is a dad he isn’t going to

Ponoka7 · 06/04/2021 01:07

They don't change. My DD, same age as you ended her relationship for the same reason. He has no respect for you. He doesn't see himself as a co-parent. You're young enough to start again. Don't waste anymore time in him. You get one shot at each decade of your life and your 20's shouldn't be like this.

tiredyoungmama · 06/04/2021 08:04

I'm reassured to see someone eose my age has been through this. It's absolutely terrifying to think about being on my own and how we will survive. But I guess I should start looking in to that. Thank you

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Lozzerbmc · 06/04/2021 08:12

He will not change and you cant make him so end the relationship and forge a new life for yourself and baby. Good luck Flowers

Mumoblue · 06/04/2021 08:16

No, it will not get better. My ex was like this and kept promising to change and never doing it.
What’s worse is that even if you stick around and try and make him grow up, he will only resent you for it.

While I wouldn’t change what I did because it meant I ended up with my son, part of me wishes I hadn’t wasted so much time on someone who wanted me to basically be their mother.
Don’t stick around for a decade like I did!

willowmelangell · 06/04/2021 09:15

Start making those plans!
Personally I wouldn't bother telling him this time.
I also wouldn't clean up after him, wash his clothes or restock the cupboards and fridge in the run up to me being gone. But that is just me.
Leave him to wallow in his personal filth. Disgusting man.

Deftly · 06/04/2021 11:45

It all sounds very unhealthy. The lack of respect for you, your home and your child, the deceit about overdrafts and loans (did he even explain where the money went?) and him 'revealing' his depression but only when you left him.

He won't change and you shouldn't waste any more time with him. Cut your losses now. Obviously it's going to be hard but this isn't how you treat people you love.

MissBPotter · 06/04/2021 11:52

Sounds crap I would definitely leave. He sounds far too lazy to ever change. Not sure why you’re terrified of being on your own, I could guarantee it will be easier as you won’t be clearing up after him and he won’t be dragging you down and sitting around stinking! Money wise he will have to pay child maintenance. Perhaps you can up your hours? I would start finding somewhere to go today, could you move in with family in the interim?

AmyLou100 · 06/04/2021 11:56

He won't change. Do not waste precious years of your and your DC lives waiting for him to perform a miracle. You are 23 and will go on to live a great life. Most importantly, you can model a healthy and happy environment for your DC.

pointythings · 06/04/2021 11:59

He won't get better. You should leave - you've already proved that you are the adult here - a good parent, capable of working and running a household. Dump your loser partner and make a go of it alone. You're already doing everything alone, not having to carry him is actually going to feel like a lightening of the load.

OysterMonkey · 06/04/2021 11:59

You’re 23. You have the rest of your life ahead of you. That could easily be another 60 odd years. Do you really want to spend those living like this? With someone who can’t even be arsed to shower or brush their teeth? Who prioritises gaming over their child? Fuck that.
Leave and break free; create your own great life for you and your daughter.

tiredyoungmama · 06/04/2021 12:07

Supposedly it was to help with Christmas presents, but I remember that year the whole family cut back. He opened hia overdraft when he was 19 and we weren't living together and didn't tell me before we moved in, I saw he was -300odd when we were getting cash out for the pub (when I was in uni, he was working FT living with parents). I pulled him up on spending in November cause I'd seen he'd spent well over £200 on fifa points in 10 days...few days later I discovered the loan he's been paying off for 2 years and tried to leave him..
As far as I'm aware there's been no more spending like that recently but who knows.
The night before I found the loan letter, I'd done an agreement in principle to see what we'd be able to afford with my savings etc. But hey ho

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AmaryllisNightAndDay · 06/04/2021 12:33

I just wish there was something, anything, I could do that would make him really understand what's on the line here.

The only thing you can do is to leave. Nothing that he actually values is on the line. He doesn't really want the responsbility of a wife and a baby. He will probably be happier living alone. You will not change him, he may grow up by himself or he may not. The only thing you can be sure of is that if you stay with him then things will get worse for you, not better.

few days later I discovered the loan he's been paying off for 2 years and tried to leave him.. ... The night before I found the loan letter, I'd done an agreement in principle to see what we'd be able to afford with my savings etc. But hey ho

You need to make sure that your own savings stay protected from him. You are going to need your savings to make a much better life for yourself and your baby!

Rainbowqueeen · 06/04/2021 12:37

You’re more likely to achieve the things you want without him. You have outgrown him and it’s time to move on.
He will not change

38greenbottles · 06/04/2021 13:52

Not only is he not going to marry you (because you sound like a sensible woman who is about to leave and have a much better life), he's not going to walk his daughter down the aisle either if he carries on like this. She'll not want anything to do with him if he carries on being a waster with no time for his own kid.

And not cleaning his TEETH?!!!

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 06/04/2021 14:54

And not cleaning his TEETH?!!

To be fair - he has depression and a lack of personal care can be part of that. But it doesn't sound as if he either wants to be a husband and father or is likely to be capable of it in the foreseeable future. So the OP needs to look after herself and her baby first and foremost, while he just looks after himself. The OP can't carry all of them.

tiredyoungmama · 07/04/2021 11:53

Thank you - i totally understand how he can struggle with hygeine sometimes - it's not a pleasant place to be, but his mood has improved significantly now and he just puts off washing himself whenever possible with "I'll get a shower before I come to bed" - then falls asleep downstairs on the xbox and slumps into bed at 6am.
It's exhausting constantly asking him to shower and take care of himself when I've got myself and the little one to look after too. I've completely given up now, I swear he's been wearing the same boxers since Sunday :(

OP posts:
Djchickpea · 07/04/2021 12:00

I know it's scary. But you are doing everything anyway. And by leaving you won't have this loser's shit to worry about so your load will be lighter

jessstan2 · 07/04/2021 12:08

@nimbuscloud

Leave permanently. You have been together since you were children- neither of you have been able to have had other relationships. That’s never good.
I agree, difficult though it is, or make him leave. You obviously loved each other once, maybe still do but things have become muddied.

You leaving may give him a wake up call. Nobody should have to put up with his lack of effort, it's horrible. Try separating and see how it goes.

Mumoblue · 07/04/2021 12:12
Flowers So sorry to hear how drained you feel OP. Stop reminding him to look after himself, it’s not your job to take care of him. You already have a baby, you don’t need an overgrown one as well. It’s not your job to fix him or to save him.
Mylovelyhorsee · 07/04/2021 12:43

Will you be happy with your life for the next day 57 years? Because he’s unlikely just to wake up and change over night. Sounds like you’re a single parent anyway so you may as well make life easier and kick him out.

tiredyoungmama · 07/04/2021 18:12

We have literally not said more than 4 words to each other since he finished work at 4.. now he's on the xbox on his phone while I was obviously doing house stuff and now giving the kid her tea. He knows I'm pissed off, and probably knows why too, but still hasn't moved his stuff from tea last night that's on the counter. Or done anything, actually.
I've gone through my finances in a spreadsheet and with my wages along with the UC top up, it looks like I'd be able to afford all of the bills for this house. Obviously I would have to cancela few things but it's all stuff he pays for currently, anyway. But I could definitely do it alone.
I really hope that I can get some courage and truly teach him a lesson this time. I really appreciate you all commenting and deep down I think I've known for a while that things don't quite feel right. I've tried to speak about this to my mum and obviously she's saying I should talk to him again to avoid being on my own and keep a family unit for our child, but will support me whatever I decide to do.
High school sweethearts always end up being too good to be true ey

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OP posts:
Carbara · 07/04/2021 18:56

You’re already on your own. Much more so than if you discarded your embarrassing teenage romance boyfriend, be free, enjoy life, never allow yourself to be treated like trash by a male again.

Christmasfairy2020 · 07/04/2021 20:31

Move in with your mum for a bit. Next time date a man in his 30s