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Confused about friend/FWB

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ConfusedOpenMarriage · 05/04/2021 15:52

Hopefully this isn’t too long, but I really need to write this out and any opinions would be appreciated.

Two years ago DH and I decided to open up our marriage. We joined Fabswingers but he didn’t end up meeting anyone, due to body confidence. He was happy for me to meet people so I met one man, things went great and really enhanced DH & I sex life. The next month, after encouragement from DH I met another man who I shall call A. Meeting A was like meeting someone I’d known a long time, we instantly got on well and everything in the bedroom was great. With DH blessing I continued to meet him, though at times DH would be a bit distant afterwards which I now know was due to him being jealous - this has been addressed and resolved since. A and I were texting regularly and after three months of meeting I felt like I was feeling more for him than I should, so asked to call time and to just be friends to which A agreed. Some weeks later we had a mini disagreement and A blocked me on WhatsApp, which I was upset about. I text him a couple of weeks afterward to apologise but initially heard nothing from him, so I assumed he wasn’t interested in being in contact any more. About 3-4 weeks later he got in touch and said he missed speaking to me and doing things together, apologising for his part in the disagreement. I responded and we kind of went from there. We met about a fortnight later and slept together.

A decided to come off Fab, deleted his profile, and wanted to be exclusive (apart from me being with DH obviously). I kept my profile but agreed to be exclusive and again had DH blessing. A and I met every few weeks, sometimes we had sex and sometimes we didn’t, we kept in contact almost daily on WhatsApp. Six months passed and one day I realised I’d fallen in love with A. I told him, he didn’t say anything back but he kissed me and hugged me. I told DH and he brought up the idea of polyamory. I didn’t want to commit to anything, I was happy to meet up as A & I had been doing, which we did so. A number of months after that COVID hit.

When we went into lockdown A & I didn’t see each other, but again kept in near daily contact. He was living with a friend (male) and we both agreed due to the uncertainty to not see each other. In June he moved to his own place. Apart from my DH/DC I didn’t see anyone else and A wasn’t seeing anyone, so we started meeting for socially distanced walks and had a weekend away booked in the October. There was still sexual talk, but we hadn’t done anything together since the March. We had a conversation on where we were both at and we both agreed we would like to continue the sexual relationship. A few weeks before we were due to go away I clarified this with him again and he confirmed he was happy with me.

The week before we were meant to go away I logged into Fab. I still used the forums from time to time. On the “feed” up popped A. I recognised his underwear. I clicked on his profile and he had joined a week previously, from his profile it was clear he was looking to meet others. Now we had agreed if we wanted to start seeing others we would let the other know. He had mentioned nothing and it took me by surprise. It also upset me. I called him and asked him outright if he had joined back up and he said no. I was quite upset so I ended the call, but messaged him to say I knew he was back on there and said I’d like to have a chat face to face, which he agreed to. The next day I went to see him, he apologised but said he was just feeling “frisky” and never intended to meet anyone. He went on to say I was married and he didn’t have anyone else. I explained to him that it wasn’t the fact he was wanting to meet someone else, but that he hadn’t told me after he had been the one to ask to be exclusive. He maintained he wasn’t going to meet anyone. As we were due to go away I kind of pushed it all to one side and he said that we should stay friends but stop the sexual side of things. We went away, things were fine but there was flirting on both sides, though nothing happened. After we came back I saw him on a semi-regular basis, we went for walks and I went round for dinner. Once when he was ordering a takeout he called me his partner to the person on the phone, which I didn’t know what to think. We still continue to do go for walks and have film nights/meals together at his place.

However, I still want him sexually. I still feel for him deeply. When we are together we end up having a hug on the couch more often than not. I have mentioned still being attracted to him before and he has said that he “needs to be good”. I don’t really understand this. We remain very good friends and continue to get on very well. DH knows about A and is happy for me to see him as a friend or sexually. But I’m getting to the point now that I don’t know what to do. A seems unwilling or unable to have a sexual relationship with me. Originally when I found him on fab again afterward he said he had feelings for me too, but didn’t elaborate. I understand that he is most likely protecting himself, but I now find myself in this position where I want him in a physical sense and it hurts. I am confused by some of the things he says and does sometimes. For example I’ve bought him things over the years for his birthday and Christmas. He had bought me things in return. This year I bought him some things for Valentine’s Day without mentioning it and he had bought me things too. For my birthday he spent a lot of money on me, buying me a number of things and again for Easter he bought me quite an expensive egg. I’m really at a loss because I don’t want to lose him as a friend, but I feel that my feelings are going to ruin things eventually. Do I let him go? Do I approach asking about a sexual relationship again? I’m so confused!

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ConfusedOpenMarriage · 05/04/2021 15:53

Wow. Well that was very long. Thank you if you read it all.

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Jingers5 · 05/04/2021 16:50

I would let him go. You are quite invested in the guy. The lines are blurred by your feelings for him. I would try and distance myself for your own sanity.

Bluntness100 · 05/04/2021 16:55

Sounds like you’re in love with him to me. I think you need to end your marriage or cut contact with a.

Stichintime · 05/04/2021 17:01

Think things are bound to get messy eventually if you're married, but having FWB.

altmember · 05/04/2021 17:03

I think your want your cake and eating it, and then wanting to eat it again! You expect a fwb to be exclusive to you, while you've also got a loving (and very tolerant) husband?

If your husband met a single woman on fab, and they did all sorts together, including weekends away without you, and then he asked her to be exclusive to him too, would that found reasonable to you?

Not only are you cuckolding your own husband, but you're trying to prevent a single man from meeting other people or starting a genuine relationship of his own.

As soon as you wrote that your husband didn't do any swinging himself, I was thinking you should have stopped things right then.

I think swinging/open relationships only work if everyone involved has multiple sexual partners/sexual options. You certainly shouldn't be trying to foist exclusively on others when it's the exact opposite of what you're doing yourself.

Sunflower1970 · 05/04/2021 17:13

I think your lover has had his head turned elsewhere

PainAgain · 05/04/2021 17:20

@altmember OP isn't cuckolding her husband (that has a specific meaning that doesn't apply here) and A is the person who wanted to be exclusive.

OP, I think the only thing that will help here is an honest and frank conversation with A, if he's willing to do that.

starfishmummy · 05/04/2021 17:32

So you met A on a swingers site but are surprised that he is un, swinging with others? Not to mention the double standards if it being OK that you have 2 men on the go but don't like the idea that he wants another partner?

Confused

cherry2727 · 05/04/2021 17:42

You sound incredible vested in A and selfish ! So you're allowed to swing and he can't ?? Also he's your swing buddy not your husband!! Why get married if you're going to swing anyway??

ConfusedOpenMarriage · 05/04/2021 17:53

Yes I met A on a swingers site, no I’m not surprised because he went back on there I was surprised because he was adamant he didn’t want to meet others. We had a conversation where we agreed if that was what either of us wanted to meet other people that we would let the other person know. Not asking for permission but out of courtesy for the other person. The reason I was upset was because he wasn’t open about it. If he would have said “Hey Confused, I’m joining Fab again and I would/wouldn’t still like to meet you sexually” then that would have been fine. The upset was because of the secrecy, nothing else.

Thank you PainAgain for explaining. Altmember - DH is the one who instigated the open marriage and the one who still encourages it. It was his idea and the talk of being polyamorous was also his idea. He has actually been talking to someone else since this year, but hasn’t met them yet due to COVID. I mentioned he didn’t meet anyone else at the start to explain. He hasn’t yet met anyone but is planning to when able. I have met A and then that very first man. I think you have misunderstood me, I have never insisted on A being exclusive with me. He decided that’s what he wanted to do and he decided to delete his profile. I have only ever wanted him to be honest and open about where he is at. I want A to be happy and would be happy for him if he met someone who he then had a relationship with. My whole reason for posting is because I’m confused about what he and I are. We are friends, but then some of the things he says/does confuses me. He doesn’t have anyone locally as his friend has moved away and he moved here originally for a job (which he still has).

I think part of the fact of him not having anyone else locally also clouds my feelings of what to do, as he doesn’t see anyone else. His family all live south and his friends are spread across the country. He does appear to be happy in his own company, but I know he enjoys the time we spend together also.

I am aware of my strong feelings for him and I don’t want to get hurt. I could very well go on and have a conversation with him, which would likely be a good idea so I am being open with him on where I’m at. In a way we interact with each other as though we are in a relationship, just without the sex.

I must add that I am happy with my DH and I do love him very much. We’ve never explored being with other people before, so I’m totally unsure on how to approach anything - especially the suggestion of polyamory.

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ConfusedOpenMarriage · 05/04/2021 17:56

Cherry - we have been married for a number of years, swinging has been a fairly recent addition. I think you’ll find many couples do it, so I know we aren’t odd for taking that path. Again, I haven’t ever said A couldn’t carry on seeing other people. That was his decision, not mine. When I found him on Fab again he was the one who insisted he wasn’t actually looking to meet anyone else, that was never the issue and he knows that, it was the fact he wasn’t open about it. Trust is kind of paramount in any type of relationship.

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Helloyouthere · 05/04/2021 18:11

There's alot of talk/text about the chap you met on fab and not that much about your husband.

If you were to continue this relationship with the fab chap it seems to me your falling for him big time and how will that affect your relationship with your husband? He says he's okay with it. Is he really because to me it doesn't sound very healthy or fair on him.

ConfusedOpenMarriage · 05/04/2021 18:24

Thank you for your reply HelloYouThere. I was wary about how much to put, it’s already a massive long read so I didn’t want to include lots of bits about me and DH too. I have mentioned DH where I felt relevant to show that all of this has been with his knowledge/consent/blessing. We have had numerous conversations about this whole thing, I have consistently checked in with him the whole time and if he asked me to stop I would.

I have tried to speak to DH about the situation currently, but he just says he is happy for me to see A in whatever capacity. DH is the one that still talks about A in the bedroom, which has been difficult at times because obviously A and I aren’t doing anything sexual at the moment and DH knows this. It hasn’t helped me in trying to sort my feelings out and I’ve asked him not to talk about A in that sense because it’s clouding the whole thing.

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