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How do I collect evidence?

35 replies

Fattulipsgarden · 03/04/2021 03:41

I have had bad gut feelings about my DH’s behaviour towards other women for years, only thing is I can never get to the bottom of any of it. He is very secretive, passwords for his phone and computer etc.
But how do I find out for sure if anything was ever going on?
*When first married he used to leave for work really early as he said that he had to attend 1-1 meetings with woman at work. After each supposed meeting I would receive an anonymous phone call at home.
*His phone pinged with a message one day that said, “Hi (DH name). How are you and how is work? Just messaged to let you know that the bump is still a bump. From (name) When I asked him about it he said it must be a wrong number and he doesn’t know anyone called (name).
Refused point blank to discuss it further.
*Had to pick him up from his work one night. Let him take the drivers seat. A dark haired woman appeared coming out of the office opposite where we were and he shouts, “Oh shit!” and steps on the accelerator for a speedy get away. Asked him what he was doing. I was imagining it apparently.
*Out on a works night out, wanted me to collect him but not from the place. It had to be from some distance away, to save me bother?!?
*At a New Year party with friends. The bells rang at midnight and everyone’s DH or DP was giving their OH’s an embrace and a kiss except me as my DH had his arms around the only single female there and giving her a New Year kiss.
*Kept mentioning a new receptionist at work and commenting how much he liked her long white hair. Then when I had to go to his work to drop off something he had forgotten I noticed that as he was going past her she was about to be all over him till he gestured that I was across the road watching and she was immediately cross with him and looked daggers at me.
*I was looking out of the upstairs window at home. Husbands head was in the car bonnet sorting something. Next door neighbour (woman) comes over to speak to him but sticks her head right up next to his and whispers in his ear. He doesn’t move or look round just carries on. WTF?
*I notice looks passing between my DH and hostess at party with friends. Later she is looking out of the window and sighs, “Oh (DH name)” Other friend says, “Did you just say (Oh name)?) “No!” Says she.
*On holiday. DH’s phone rings. It’s his best friend’s DP. She is muttering on about coming up to meet my DH and he says, “Name (me) is sitting right next to me on the sofa” Phone call ends abruptly.

There are loads more examples but too numerous to mention.
What do you think Mumsnetters? All of these things suggest to me that my DH is a womaniser but he just refuses to discuss any of it and thinks I am being unreasonable and making mountains out of molehills.

OP posts:
Fattulipsgarden · 03/04/2021 12:40

Have done already@DianaT1969

OP posts:
Windmillwhirl · 03/04/2021 12:52

The gaslighting would be enough for me to walk away. Arevyou preferred to accept a life of that?

You may well find that when you leave him, people aren't so in awe of him. Have you ever considered your friends are protecting your feelings by not being brutally honest about him?

Mif4 · 03/04/2021 20:13

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BillMasheen · 03/04/2021 20:19

I’ve been with him many years though and his friends and my friends all seem to think the sun shines out of him. He would get the sympathy. I would be the bad one. I’ve not spoken about my worries to anyone

You don’t get a medal for putting up with someone like,this. And if his friends think he’s so fucking wonderful, they can marry him.

Chocolateismakingmefat · 03/04/2021 20:31

He has a baby with another woman is my guess...

Closetbeanmuncher · 04/04/2021 00:26

Sorry OP but your husband sounds like a very snaky serial cheat and emotional abuser.

Why exactly are you still sitting there letting him grind you to dust??

Justilou1 · 04/04/2021 00:32

I think you said it all when you described him as charming. They bloody all are. I would recommend getting some super clear, very sticky sellotape and asking him to help you find the end of it. Hopefully you can get his fingerprint and use it on his phone. Otherwise I’d be nicking his phone and trying while he’s asleep.

NCISGibbs · 04/04/2021 01:19

@category12

evidence to use if I divorce him. It looks clear enough to me what he’s been doing but I suppose there could be alternative explanations.

If you're in the UK, fault doesn't matter in the divorce settlements.

And adultery is hard to prove if he would contest it. You are far far better divorcing him for unreasonable behaviour, into which you can include "inappropriate relationships with other women" as part of the rationale. You really don't need to prove adultery to divorce him.

THIS!! You would be hard pressed to prove Adultery without concrete proof of infidelity such as physically witnessing sexual contact of any kind or by finding proof of messages that un-disputably show infidelity. The best course of action you could take is to state unreasonable behaviour as stated above and give the reasons of inappropriate relationships with other women, secretive behaviour and omitting to give you answers to reasonable questions about his conduct and gas lighting you when you questioned him. The 'cause' for want to a better term, is irrelevant really to the division of assets and the particulars of the divorce.
lothermand · 04/04/2021 02:55

My ex was a lying, cheating git. He was so incredibly secretive. He turned off the banners of notifications on his phone, so I never saw messages come through.

He also made me feel it was all in my head. This is no way to live OP, but understandably it's not all black and white. Get your ducks in a row, don't wait for the evidence, just make peace of mind your goal..good luckThanks

gutful · 04/04/2021 06:18

The first & basically only positive thing you’ve mentions about him is that he is “charming”

If you think about it being “charmed” by someone is being manipulated into liking them. Being charming is an act.

You know what is going on. Your gut is telling you what the truth is. Listen to your instinct.

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