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New relationship failed, is it me?

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Homebaby · 29/03/2021 20:02

Evening all, long time lurker but have only posted here once before. Looking for some advice /clarity on my recent situation.
I ended an incredibly toxic situationship last year, my gut always told me something wasn't right with this guy but I didn't listen. Ironically walking away gave me a huge new sense of self worth and I was and am determined never to leave myself open to being treated like that again.
Fast forward to the end of last year, went on a old site really just to see what it was about. Up pops this guy with a lovely smile and we matched. We spoke fairly soon on the phone and agreed to meet, he really seemed like a genuine guy in person aswell. We met a few more times, he was really forthcoming with texts, talking on the phone and on the sm platform we met on which after the last disaster was so refreshing. He has 2 children and has 1 live with him 2 weeks of the month when his shift allows. His wife told him she wanted to split out of the blue 2 years ago and is now with someone else. He wanted me to meet his children fairly early on as he has them so regularly and said it would make things easier. Alarm bells a bit especially when I found I was the 4th woman he'd introduced them to but he seemed so lovely I went along with it and we got on really well. I'm 42 and childless, not really by choice but just never met the right person. In another life I'd have liked them. In all honesty I never really felt a chemistry but thought my previous toxic experience had given me a strange outlook on relationships so persevered. What became difficult was arranging time to see each other, he seemed to think time with the kids was us time. I felt it was important but we also needed time alone to get to know each other and with his shifts and childcare commitments I was feeling like I was the one making all the effort to fit in. Along with the niggling feeling he wanted a wife substitute not a girlfriend to have fun and build with. Last weekend on the one night we could spend together he cheerfully announces on text that he has to leave mine at 5am on the morning to meet his mates for his hobby. I wasn't the happiest, tried to keep myself cool but ended up asking when was I and our relationship going to be made any kind of priority. I get I come 2nd to kids and work but firstly thinking I would want to be awake at half 4 when I had work all day, and secondly what's the point in staying when you're going to jump out of bed and leave. His answer was I should go back on old and meet someone else. So I put down the phone and we haven't spoken since.
My question is have I become too hard? I feel like after putting up with so much I've gone the other way and potentially thrown away a good guy. Or is my gut right and the lack of chemistry and niggles something I should be listening to? Important to add that I love my life and don't need anyone, I've been through a lot on my own and proud to have come out the other side. But if I'm with someone I expect to have some kind of spot in their life and not always the one making sacrifices. Sorry for the essay but some words of wisdom would be much appreciated, even if it's to tell me I've been a brat!

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seensome · 29/03/2021 20:27

Always listen to your intuition, he shouldn't of introduced you to his children so early on, it's because either too lazy or just didn't want to prioritise time with you, early stages of a relationship is all about getting to know each other first so you know your are making a good judgment of the person you are getting in a relationship with first before introducing children, it should also be fun just enjoying each other's company because you choose to.
He was very hasty to dismiss your concerns without trying to compromise on your time together, if he can't put the effort in then he's not worth yours.

Shaz786o · 29/03/2021 20:28

Yeah agree with above poster. He’s given up quite easily hasn’t he.

DancesWithCatsnDogs · 29/03/2021 20:38

I think a lot of it could be down to him being a shift worker. I've known a few. Have to fit everything in to their timetable and add kids into it, yes you are going to feel low on the list. He probably knows it too, hence him chucking in the towel so soon after you commenting on it.
It's not you.

Elieza · 29/03/2021 20:52

You’ve done the right thing.
Just like the other four before you did.
Walk away and don’t look back.
He’s an arse.

category12 · 29/03/2021 20:53

It's not you.

Treetops73 · 29/03/2021 20:54

Always listen to your gut OP! From what you’ve described, it sounds like he is primarily keen to have someone in the wife/mother role to help him with his parenting responsibilities. Introducing you to the children so quickly (and you being the fourth woman he has introduced) backs this up for me.

You don’t sound like a brat at all. You sound lovely, and like you’ve got your head screwed on and that’s good thing, esp as you’ve been hurt before. You’ve put yourself out there and tried with this man, so you should be kind to yourself, chalk this one up to experience and move on.

Good luck x

ThereforeIAm · 29/03/2021 20:56

You were 100% right.

billy1966 · 29/03/2021 20:58

Definitely not you.

Listen to your gut OP.
Flowers

TedMullins · 29/03/2021 20:59

No you’re absolutely not being too hard! He sounds like a complete waste of time, I think you’re totally right that he wants a wife substitute to help with his kids and isn’t interested in developing an actual relationship. You had a lucky escape, he’s the one with the problem

RealisticSketch · 29/03/2021 21:03

You have done nothing wrong. I'm a way neither has he, as soon as you complained he knew he had nothing more to offer so cut you loose. He could have been kinder about it, and should have been a bit wiser up front about what he was offering but at least he didn't promise change that was never going to happen. Shift workers do really struggle to schedule everything in so that will be at least part of the difficulty in his side. But then he also expects you to skip the falling in love bit and go straight to domestic routine which is not realistic as you are a person in your own right not a space filler for the wife vacancy.
A life partner definitely needs to be someone who has a place for you in their life not just someone you get on well with, as you so rightly say yourself

user1481840227 · 29/03/2021 21:06

I don't think it was you, but you need to look at why you went along with meeting his children even though alarm bells were ringing and you knew they had already been introduced to 3 other women in a short time.

It says a lot about him that he has done that repeatedly and it also wasn't fair on the children.

PrincessPea11 · 29/03/2021 21:06

You're not being too hard OP, I'm sure he's not a terrible guy but you deserve to be prioritised, not slotted in where convenient. I'm obv not saying prioritised over and above his kids but he seemed to want a very easy path of meeting a woman, introducing her to his kids and her becoming an instant wife of 10 years rather than a new girlfriend to get to know and have fun with. This doesn't show great judgement as his kids have now been introduced to 5 new women who haven't worked out.

Also, you voiced your concerns and he just gave up. A more mature or reasoned man genuinely interested in you for you, and not just a new substitute wife would have tried to find a solution. Possibly starting by not leaving at 5am to go and do his hobby on that occasion.

Trust your gut, it's good that you spoke up and didn't waste more time on him.

PrincessPea11 · 29/03/2021 21:07

Sorry, 4 new women, not 5.

Writerandreader · 29/03/2021 21:39

I find it pretty disturbing tbh that he wanted to introduce you to his children. As you said the alarm bells were there.

Branleuse · 29/03/2021 21:46

you are not the arsehole here

Homebaby · 29/03/2021 21:56

Thank you so much for all of your replies Treetops 73 especially 😊 I've typed 2 replies so far and neither have successfully posted, they'll probably turn up at some point!
My confidence in my judgement was wavering but now feeling much better. You guys are certainly on point and know your stuff 💐 He's not a bad guy, and in answer to the question of why I met the children when alarm bells were ringing i thought it was me being too cautious. I was only aware of 1 previous woman to have done this, it later turned out to be more. I wouldn't have if I'd have known this. I think he knows he will struggle to find someone with all of his commitments which is the sad part. But there's nothing stopping him making the effort when he could and for me he didn't. Previously I would have probably put up and shut up but not these days. Thank you all again

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Sunflower1970 · 30/03/2021 00:05

If he’s been so quick to let you go then your gut was correct. Block and move onxx

TuesdayMorning · 30/03/2021 00:26

You’d put up with too much again. You did exactly the right thing by not speaking to him. Don’t distrust your feelings again. Well done for handling this so well.

OldWomanSaysThis · 30/03/2021 00:31

He's not putting his children first by introducing them to girlfriends too soon. He's putting himself first. He's trying to slot everyone into his life so he gets what he wants when he wants it.

You weren't happy with your slot so he cut you lose. He needs to fill a particular slot in a particular way. The girlfriend could be anyone as long as she fills the assigned slot.

Homebaby · 30/03/2021 19:02

@OldWomanSaysThis your post absolutely hit the nail on the head as to what I was feeling, he did all of the right things but it felt like I could have been anybody who ticked the boxes. No emotion there whatsoever @TuesdayMorning thank you, I now feel like I've handled it well after reading all of the comments, 90% of me did but just that niggle before I posted on here. Hopefully I can have more faith in myself moving forward!

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