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Not sure how to cope with my friend anymore (apologies; it's a bit long and rambling!)

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petunia · 08/11/2007 17:12

I met this Mum (I'll call her L) at school about 18months ago. She's a single Mum and has been signed off from work on sick leave for the last 7 weeks. We're fairly good friends I suppose. She classes me as her "best friend" but I'm not sure I see her as the same, really just because of her recent behaviour.

This happened a couple of weeks ago but kind of explains the type of thing I mean. My DDs hamster (called Shiver) escaped one Friday, around 7am. I'd never had to find/capture an escaped one before, and had no idea what to do/where a hamster might hide. L rang up at 8.30am and wanted to come for coffee, so we arranged for her to arrive at 1.45pm. I spent the day, sitting in a near-silent house, listening for any sounds and really hoping that we'd see Shiver again (I'm quite attached to her too!) 5 minutes before L was due to arrive, DH found Shiver upstairs in his room (he uses it as an office). I then spent the next 45minutes trying to catch her but every time I came close to catching hold of her, she shot off behind all the stuff DH has (never realised hamsters could move so fast!) DH explained to L what I was doing but after 40 minutes, L left. Virtually as L walked out the door, I managed to get hold of Shiver and got her back into the cage. I tried to ring L on her mobile to apologise and explain, but she was driving so couldn't answer. When I got back from picking up DDs at 4pm, L had sent some text messages from her mobile to our home phone, saying how "very upset" she was because she'd had a wasted journey (10 miles round trip), that I should have rung and told her that we'd found Shiver but that I was having trouble trying to catch her. She complained that I hadn't said "hello" to her or come downstairs to see her (No I hadn't, but I was concentrating on trying to catch said hamster!) I rang her and pointed out that she was already on her way from her house when we found the hamster, so I wouldn't have been able to contact her. I also said that DH had explained that I was having trouble getting hold of Shiver.

This all had me in tears (pathetic I know, but it was also time of the month, which didn't help), which she interpreted as me not wanting to lose our friendship. In truth, I couldn't have cared less because I was just so tired and p!ssed off with it all!

The latest thing is that we've been trying to arrange going Christmas shopping. We've agreed that it would be nice to get it done while she's signed off sick and without children. But she keeps cancelling because she gets very tired (due to the illness she's had). I want to emphasise that it's OK, I've no problem if she's tired, I'm not desperate to go shopping. But last night she rang at 5pm. After a bit of a moan that she wasn't able to see her normal doctor to see if she could go back to work, we arranged to go shopping tomorrow morning. 1 1/2 hours later, I got a text message saying that she'd told me the day before (Tuesday) that she was too tired to go shopping (no, she hadn't said anything), as if it was my fault for trying to arrange something and for her agreeing to it.

I try to understand that being a single-parent is hard work and she does describe herself as "a worrier", but everytime she has a really hard time at work, or imagines some slight that I've done, she kind of "takes off and runs with it", so that I'm made to feel like everything is my fault. I don't want to appear like a heartless b!tch but I get fed up of trying to cheer her up (like with the Crimble shopping), and then being made to feel like it's all my fault when she then decides she doesn't want to do it hours later. Or that I can't make the world revolve around her/solve her problems because I have to concentrate on DDs/my family/catching hamsters etc. She does apologise afterwards, but I guess I'm finding it hard work trying to explain every little thing I do so that she doesn't take things the "wrong way".

I'd be grateful for any help or advice.

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HonoriaGlossop · 09/11/2007 09:47

sounds a bit like this friendship is too much like hard work! Is it worth it? Why not just let things slide for a bit, don't contact her and see how it goes.

the other option, if she challenges you on that, is to be honest and say you want a break as you find that you often feel she is getting at you and you've had enough!

petunia · 09/11/2007 10:05

Honoria- I think you're right. Have really thought about all this, plus the other times when she's given me a "telling off" for upsetting her (usually by text- something I'm not used to!) and think I really need to step back for a little while.

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Scanner · 09/11/2007 10:05

It really does sound like she overeacts, is overly clingly and you've had enough. You did handle the hamster incident badly, but I suspect that's because you've got to the stage where you want her to realise that you have other priorities.

I had a friendship like this years ago and didn't know how to back away from it, there are no 'rules' for ending a friendship. If she were a boyfriend you say you didn't want to be together anymore, but that feels so much harder to do with a friend. I handled my friendship very badly and got cross when the friend gave me a hard time for not returning a call immediately, put the phone down on her and that was that. I'm not sure how you should handle it, but perhaps the first step might be to acknowledge that you're not that keen on her.

petunia · 09/11/2007 11:42

Scanner- perhaps you're right. That day was a question of priorities, yes I got mine wrong, but I also thought a "bit of slack" would be given. I don't think I was trying to teach her anything, but I really did have so many things going through my mind and made the wrong choice in putting the catching of DDs hamster first.
It just seems like I'm supposed to overlook her faults, be there at all times etc, e.g when she rang at 5pm the other night, I was in the middle of doing tea and was busy, but I let her have her moan (doing tea with one hand, phone in the other!) about not getting an appointment with the Dr she's been dealing with. But when I goof up/get the slightest thing wrong, I get it in the neck in a major way.
I really need to be able to say NO as well, don't I?! As you can probably tell, I haven't been in this situation with a friend before!

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Scanner · 09/11/2007 12:03

Yep, it sounds like you might need to practice saying no in a nice way, if she then overeacts the problem is hers not yours. Most Mum's I know totally understand if you answer the phone and say - it's all a bit busy here at the moment, can I call you back. In fact I usually start by asking if it's a good time. If she doesn't understand that, then you have a choice to either attempt to get her to understand or just walk away.

She sounds exhausting

FrannyandZooey · 09/11/2007 12:24

I know this is not exactly relevant now but I wondered if you would like a hint on how to catch a hamster

put some food that it likes in a bucket and leave some 'steps' (eg made from books or similar) so that it can climb into the bucket but not get back out again

HTH

petunia · 09/11/2007 12:28

That was going to be next step! I was going to try that, something of a foodie nature in a bowl, in the evening when I knew she'd be out and about.
I'll know for next time (but am fervently hoping there won't be a "next time"!)

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HonoriaGlossop · 09/11/2007 12:35

see, if only Franny had been about, HAMSTERGATE need never have happened

OrmIrian · 09/11/2007 12:43

petunia - I think you probably handled it wrongly (but you know that) but if she were a good friend she should have come to ask if you needed help or at least come to see where you were. Yes she is needy and sounds hard work, but only you can tell if she is worth the effort.

BTW Macdoodle - a hamster is not an 'overgrown rat'. It's smaller for a start and has a tiny tail . Just thought that needed pointing out.

macdoodle · 09/11/2007 13:50

Thanks jus in case I ever need to be catching one

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