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Is it me?

17 replies

isitme12 · 15/03/2021 14:09

I've recently come out of a two year relationship and my ex has been messaging me, basically blaming me for the downfall of the relationship. I am a self-aware person, very reflective, but I am starting to doubt whether I am actually to blame for more than I think. It's starting to make me feel as though I shouldn't be dating other people, as I've got all of these 'issues'. I am going to try to be as impartial as I can, because of course, writing something from my point of view, it will be somewhat bias.

Today he sent me a list of what I did that made the relationship fail:

  1. I expected him to give me 100%, but never gave him the same back.

I always tried my best to give him 100%. I am naturally a very attentive person, so I would always suggest things we could do or arrange to meet up. I was always sending him links and ideas of fun things to do together. I was always attentive with texts and phone calls. I did stop making as much of an effort towards the end because he has mental health issues, so he would go through periods of time where he felt very down, meaning we wouldn't speak all day. I would text him at 9am and get no reply until well into the evening or I would have to double text him to get a response. This included when we were making plans for the following day, I would start the conversation in the morning, and he would eventually reply 11 hours later (often after I'd sent more messages). This wasn't because he was genuinely too busy, as he'd be online on other social media websites, and it happened very frequently. When he did reply and he was in these poor 'mental head spaces', the replies were lacklustre at best. He never told me he was looking forward to seeing me, excited for our plans.. It began to erode my self-esteem. That was the 'straw that broke the camels back' as it were and why I split up with him.

  1. I pushed him into making decisions about moving in with me and on my terms without supporting him to be ready.

At the beginning of the relationship, he 'love bombed' me (for want of a better word/phrase). From the beginning he was telling me I was the one, he was sending me properties that we should look to buy together, sending me wedding venues, saying he wouldn't mind if I got pregnant. That was all within the first few months of meeting him. I didn't allow myself to get swept up in this idea until a few months later, naively believing I'd just met my soulmate, then he started to say he didn't know if he wanted any of that as it meant him moving from his hometown and leaving his family and friends behind. I told him how hurt I was and we'd need to go back to a casual relationship without involving my DC (he'd met them by that point, and I never would have involved them had I not believed he was serious about moving in etc. with me). Instead of accepting this, he continuously gave me times and dates for when he'd be 'ready', needless to say they never materialised. Throughout all of this I was suggesting we go back to dating, be more casual, we could work out a routine that didn't involve living here full time just yet, but every single suggestion was rejected.

  1. I didn’t accept and support his friendships.

He had one particular female friend who he had history with (he'd kissed her about 10 years earlier, they also went on holidays sharing a bed but nothing happened according to him, dinners weekly... it was a very close, intimate friendship). He told me that his last girlfriend had left him over this friendship, and asked how I felt. I was honest and said I wouldn't be comfortable with the person I am seeing having such a close intimate relationship with another woman who they had a sexual past with. He agreed that he would tone it down, but instead of respecting my feelings he lied (by omission) about seeing her on multiple occasions for dinners, lunches, walks etc.

I've had partners in the past who have had female friendships (no sexual or dating history involved), and it has never been an issue. They've always been completely transparent, honest and I haven't cared nor has it caused any issues. I've explained this to my ex, but he still insists I've tried to 'control' his friendships and I am paranoid/jealous.

I realise this sounds insane, I have no interest in rekindling anything with him. I've tried to be as impartial as possible, but I know that's difficult. He's made me so worried that I've got something wrong with me. I know there are occasions I could've behaved better, said things I shouldn't have etc. just like in any relationship. I genuinely believed I was a good, solid partner and it's making me think I should be seeking counselling. I've been asked to go for a walk by a lovely man at work and he is making me feel as though I have something wrong with me Sad

OP posts:
Wanderlusto · 15/03/2021 14:19

Theres nothing wrong with you. He is the one with issues.

He is a bully. He is sending you all this rot to try and kick you down because he cant stand anyone being happy. Least of all someone who told him to fuck off.

Block his number and give him no more headspace.

That being said, I I wouldn't be necessarily rushing into dating again. It sounds like he was manipulative and cruel and after those relationships we can be vulnerable to predators if we dont do the self work (and learn how to spot them) before dating again.

Does mr lovely at work know about your shit ex? If do, be extra careful. Telling a man early on about an ex treating you like shit can give certain sorts of men (predators) the green light to see you as a potential victim.

Maybe he is lovely. You could go on a date and just treat it as light fun or as a friend thing. But you need to take time I think, before looking for a partner again.

Honeyroar · 15/03/2021 14:21

Put him behind you. It’s over. It didn’t work. It’s strange and unreasonable of him to be sending you lists of criticisms after you’ve split. Go out for the walk with your other man, just take things slowly.

Aquamarine1029 · 15/03/2021 14:22

Why are you still entertaining the inane thoughts of this gaslighting fuckwit? Block him from everything and move on with your life.

Palavah · 15/03/2021 14:22

No. He sounds bananas. Block and move forward.

fivelemons · 15/03/2021 14:31

He's a nutcase, and you are well shot of him. Reply to his message with "lol" and then block the twat and forget all about him.

TheChip · 15/03/2021 14:36

Youre fine. He's just trying to knock you down. Don't let him.

Justcallmebebes · 15/03/2021 14:39

It's not you, it's him and another man using mental health as an excuse to behave like a complete bastard. If any man tells you he suffers from mental health and he hasn't had a diagnosis or sought any sort of help, run. Fast

BrilliantBetty · 15/03/2021 14:46

IGNORE him. Do not read over his shitty message again. He knows you will take his words to heart and examine everything he apparently thinks .... but just don't. It's done. You're not together any more. Chapter closed, you did nothing wrong and even if you did it's nothing much and it's over. Leave all the questions behind.

Think about other things.

countesskay · 15/03/2021 14:48

There is nothing wrong with you, he has just made reasons to get out of the relationship.

I think it's rare for people to say, "I don't want a relationship anymore, or I want something/someone else - so they create reasons.

Sounds like you gave him a lot of grace in his behaviour, but sounds like you didn't get much in return, you shouldn't set yourself alight to keep others warm.

Being reflective after a relationship is good practice, maybe before you date again, create some deal breakers that you know you definitely dont want in a another boyfriend,

You deserve to be loved and valued

Whetstone · 15/03/2021 14:53

Why are you still entertaining the inane thoughts of this gaslighting fuckwit?

So succinct. So accurate.

OP - he's just some worthless bloke. Forget him!

TheBusiness · 15/03/2021 15:06

It doesn’t sound like it’s you whatsoever. No idea why you are doubting yourself.

isitme12 · 15/03/2021 16:13

Thanks everyone.

Towards the end of our relationship he'd constantly tell me that he was like this 'because of me' and if I'd just done 'x, y and z' then our relationship wouldn't be over. I should've been more patient / understanding / supported him unconditionally. He said things like, 'But you pushed me into behaving like this.' It makes you doubt yourself, it makes you feel like there's something wrong with you and that maybe it's all me!!

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Cockenspiel · 15/03/2021 16:45

He sounds like a bit of a love-bombing narc and I realise that word is thrown around on MN a fair bit.

I think you’ll feel better by going totally NC.

AryaStarkWolf · 15/03/2021 16:49

Stop talking to the guy, you're not together anymore, stop letting him inside your head. It sounds like you're well rid!

Treetops73 · 15/03/2021 17:07

OP, you sound lovely, and very sensible and reasonable. Block him, delete his number and try not to give him any more thought. Weak or toxic men like this will never take responsibility for their actions or own who they are; they blame other people for their failings. You can’t change them, just walk away. You’ve had a lucky escape. 💐

WisnaeMe · 16/03/2021 04:13

why even ask, Block 🌺

IJustWantSomeBees · 16/03/2021 12:11

Please block him OP, he's trying to drag you down.

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