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‘It’s only banter’

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Amethyst1974 · 10/03/2021 11:11

My Bil has always had a very edgy and sometime inappropriate sense of humour. He’s been married to my sister for 10 years, they have two young children and he is 15 years older than her (early fifties). Most of the time his humour can be brushed aside and not taken too personally but something happened at the weekend that has made me think that maybe he is using humour to disguise plain nastiness.

My sister has always had an issue with body image, more so after pregnancy and breastfeeding. She never makes a big deal of it and she comes across as quite confident. We met for a walk at the weekend and my dh was relaying a story of one of his colleagues who had a reputation for talking to womens breasts rather than their faces. My bil laughed and said ‘well I’ve never had that problem with dw, it’s a good job I’m not a tit man’. My sister heard this and walked off and when I caught her up she was crying. Bil came over and told her to stop being so sensitive as ‘it’s only banter’.

For context, my sister maintains that most of the time they have a good relationship, he is warm and attentive and they have a good sexual relationship and he tells her he loves her body. But this feels so off to me and utterly disrespectful. When it comes to humour I really feel that he uses angle to get a laugh but he’s really crossed a line this time. Am I being over sensitive on behalf of my dsis?

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yellowlorry123 · 10/03/2021 13:04

Poor sister. It probably wouldn't help but I would have to pipe up something like, good thing she didn't want a young man as she's now stuck with you

Mischance · 10/03/2021 13:07

I really hate it when men (or indeed women) take the opportunity to denigrate their partner when in company. It is sickening.

LittleRa · 10/03/2021 13:07

@Amethyst1974

littlera yes his reaction was interesting (we are newly separated but still on good terms) he was really embarrassed and talking with him after he is now of the opinion that people who insult others for cheap laughs are of low intelligence. He actually thinks my dsis should leave her dh and find someone who loves every inch of her just as she is. I spoke to her earlier, she said it’s knocked her last shreds of confidence massively and when they were intimate the other night she kept her top on. I couldn’t bring myself to be intimate with someone who thought my breasts were a disappointment it’s the ultimate turn off.
Absolutely, I agree that a comment like that is enough to totally affect your feelings towards sex and intimacy
MammaMiaWallace · 10/03/2021 13:10

Disrespectful- reminds me of the scene in The Office when Dawn’s boyfriend says “she’ll get the milkers out for a tenner” - just generally rude, degrading and disrespectful and inviting judgement upon his partner and tbh invites a subconscious analysis of her breasts.

FreeAt50 · 10/03/2021 13:11

This "banter" cost my brother his first (lovely) wife and marriage/son. He hasn't learned but this time married a stronger woman who also has the fortune to not even GET most of his sly digs.

Me and my mum have both spoken to him about is as he is generally a friendly, amiable, popular guy, but he doesn't see anything wrong with it!!

LaVitaPuoEsserePiuBella · 10/03/2021 13:11

"very edgy and sometime inappropriate sense of humour" = gets away with being an arsehole to women.
I would absolutely stick up for my sister and call him out on it.

Amethyst1974 · 10/03/2021 14:29

I’ve got a dear friend who doesn’t tolerate this kind of thing at all. At 54 years old she’s still single despite dating pretty much constantly. Says it all really.

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Naunet · 10/03/2021 17:25

Banter used to mean two way, back and forth teasing, now it seems to mean being an absolute dick and then acting like the other person has no sense of humour when they get offended.

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