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My BF is beginning to taunt me. Is it jealousy or something else?

216 replies

SJane910374 · 09/03/2021 20:48

I am 30 and my bf is 38. In a relationship for 3.5 years now. We don’t live together.

Recently I purchased a house (from my savings) for investment purposes and have been renting that out.

My bf says he wants to marry me but is waiting for the right time as he wants to buy his own place first.

I offered to contribute half towards the purchase of our marital home and it’s mortgage which he accepted. So I have been also putting money aside to contribute towards our first home together. We currently do not live together.

I was content in my previous job and I was earning less than my bf. My bf, however, would encourage me to progress and utilise my abilities. I listened to him.

Thus, 2 years ago I got a new job where my salary is 6 figures.

Shortly after starting the job, I invited him to dinner. I had not seen him for some time as I was in a different country briefly. The bill came and I paid. At the time he didn’t say anything but later confronted me about it.

He alleged that I was showing off and trying to belittle him. I just thought as it was me who invited him for dinner it is only fair I pay. In the past he has paid for me and I have paid for him regarding dinner. So I was confused what was different this time round? Regardless I apologised for upsetting him which I did not intend.

He start to talk about how women think they are so independent these days thereby they should also contribute equally for dates/ costs. Ironic considering he had a go at me for paying for dinner.

Few months ago I got another pay rise and hence why I was able to achieve my dream of purchasing a property to rent out. I told him of this dream from the very start.

Things just went downhill from there.

For instance, he told me about his friend’s political view. I responded saying I did not agree with his friend’s view but nonetheless everyone is entitled to their own beliefs.
My bf kicked off and accused me of showing off, thinking I am better than him. That I like to think I am rich. That I spend my money like there’s no tomorrow. That I also look down on people and don’t understand people’s struggles. He also claimed I have had life so easy. I was honestly baffled. Especially as it was the first time I heard all of this and also because it had to relevance to the initial conversation.

I have never claimed I was better than him. In fact it is always him who brings up “you earn more than me” statements. I never thought he seriously meant anything underneath it. I have also never till this day said that to him.

Rather I say to him it doesn’t matter who earns more as we are one.

I do regular voluntary work for a local charity. I have done various volunteering events since I was 16. I pay my parents bills and give them money every month too. I also have worked since I was 16 and went to university where I held down a part time job. I graduated with a first despite my grandma (who I was close to) at the time being diagnosed with a brain tumour and eventually passing away.

Even my job, I was not handed it on a plate. I had to do various assessments and courses. I studied. I still have to do assessments to keep my skills set up to date.

My bf claimed I only got the job because I am a female and the hiring manager must have fancied me. Despite the hiring manager being a straight female. To add, the initial assessments were done anonymously too.

The annoying thing is the argument will never start about this topic. It will be based on something completely random. Most recent one where he asked what type of music I prefer. I answered to which he start criticising my preference. I didn’t say anything back other than looking confused. It was then followed by the you think you are rich and better whinging.
It’s as if he tried to pick on me for a fight.

I do love him a lot but I just don’t know what to do. I genuinely do not think I am better than him nor anyone else. I am just an average person.

OP posts:
ScarfaceCwaw · 10/03/2021 08:06

He's an abuser. You are describing a classic pattern. Lovebombing at first, oh so attentive, everything lovey dovey, then a slow move into criticising you under the guise of "encouraging" you to do better, then a gradual but continual escalation of criticism and control. With periods of nice in between, because there always are, because otherwise nobody would stay.

Your future if you stay with him is more and more criticism, control, and abuse. It may escalate to physical, it may not, but the emotional abuse is often the more damaging part.

Poorlykitten · 10/03/2021 08:07

You have to ask yourself why a partner , the one person who should always have your back, would be so unsupportive, unkind and jealous? He should be beaming with pride that you have achieved so much. This would be a normal reaction. He doesn’t have your best interest at heart. Massive red flag.

Notanotherfreak · 10/03/2021 08:09

OP, he sounds abusive and perhaps a narcissist? He’s showing you now who he is, after the lovebombing honeymoon phase. He’s trying to disassemble your self esteem. My ex did exactly these things. Complained about my job, my earning power, slowly and slyly started to criticise my hair, my clothes, how I brought up my kids. None of this is good or ok, and you know it won’t get better. Find your anger - how dare he say these things to you, it’s emotional abuse OP, or the start of it. His mask is starting to slip. Read ‘Why Does He Do That’ by Lundy Bancroft - I’m sure you will recognise him in one of the pages.

RomeoLikedCapuletGirls · 10/03/2021 08:11

Lovebombing followed by negging. Sounds classic to me.

AgathaAllAlong · 10/03/2021 08:14

He should support you and cheer on your success, perhaps enjoy the the fact that you can pay for fancy meals now! The fact that he tries to belittle why you have the job is awful. Get rid.

Windmillwhirl · 10/03/2021 08:19

He's seething with resentment and that is his problem.

I'd pull way back, op. You need to not ignore this side of him.

My partner has his own business but he has to work 6 days a week. He has often said to me he wishes he had gone to college when he was younger so he did not have to work so hard now. That's owning your situation, not putting your life choices on someone else to make them feel bad.

I really hope you see this for what it is and stop thinking this is something you have to fix. It isnt.

YoniAndGuy · 10/03/2021 08:36

I’m so glad you plan to move on.

Yes, jealousy and bitterness... but it’s important to see that it’s not ‘because’ of your job or ‘because’ you’ve changed - it’s ‘because’ of his misogyny and insecure nastiness. He’d be like this with any situation in the future where he felt that you weren’t sufficiently beneath him, being his little woman. What you were supposed to do when he encouraged you to move forward was simper, thank him for being so supportive and maybe go get yourself a manicure to feel empowered. Not go out and earn more than him! Oh no, he didn’t really want you to shine! You’re supposed to be the secondary person!

It’s so lucky that this has happened now and your success has shown what HE is truly like.

Get out, and be happy with a generous, secure, nice man. They’re out there!

Kelly345 · 10/03/2021 08:37

So not only resentful of your success, but also chips away at your self esteem and self worth. Sorry to say but these are all controlling behaviours. He may well be wonderful sometimes, but this coersion is dangerous and will eventually leave you questioning your own self worth. I hope you can get away from him before any more damage is caused. He clearly has a problem with women and resents the thought a female is more financially successful than him and these comments are engineered to eat away at your confidence, not nurture your success. This is only going to get worse & one day you'll find yourself wondering why you are a shadow of your former self. Move on without him, you deserve better than someone who resents you.

Ruminating2020 · 10/03/2021 08:46

@SJane910374 your last post shows that he is a classic abuser and his behaviour towards you is coercive control.

Arguing with you just to win and be right, criticising your appearance and the way you speak are all ways of chipping away at your self confidence.

A healthy relationship occurs when partners considers each other as equals. He is not treating you as an equal because in his mind, you need to be less than so that he can be greater.

A normal partner builds you up, not tear you down.

MarshmallowAra · 10/03/2021 08:50

He's a chauvanist/misogynist, bitter, jealous (of both women having success and his particular partner being successful, esp more than him), he sounds jealous & controlling on a personal level, abusive actually.

He's not going to be happy until you're under his boots in every way he can make you - changing yourself, apologising etc etc.

I'm sorry because you've been with him for over three years but j would advise you to end this relationship now and not invest any more time; he's a terrible prospect for a good, equal, nice marriage.

He thinks women are interior to men and only get promotions/warn more because the hirer fancies them (or they have sex with pertinent people - is another favourite).

It takes time to get to know someone, if they reveal themselves as someone who'd be a poor partner - abusive actually in this case, it's time well spent in evaluating them for marriage etc.

Don't get caught by sunken costs fallacy.

yellowlorry123 · 10/03/2021 08:51

Congratulations on having a great career, good salary and your own property by the age of 30

You're successful and bright and driven. You're independent and financially secure

Some men are sadly intimidated by women like You. The good news is you're young and have no financial ties to this person. Enjoy your life and success and find somebody who deserves to be a part of it

EvenMoreFuriousVexation · 10/03/2021 08:54

Sometimes I just mentally switch off and day dream when he starts ranting about women and feminism.

So this is a regular thing, the ranting?

Look, this is who he really is. At the beginning of the relationship he felt he was in a stronger position than you. He was attracted to you because he felt superior. Part of that feeling of strength came from condescending to you, telling you that you could achieve better if only you tried. (Did he say "you silly little princess" at the end, or maybe boop your cute little nose? He sounds patronizing AF)

Now you've become stronger, believed in your own self worth, and he simply cannot handle it. All his entrenched misogynistic opinions are coming to the fore, because he perceives his position now as inferior to yours, and to him, that is unbearable.

I had similar with my husband, except it was about mental and emotional strength rather than financial/career. When we met, I was a vulnerable wreck. He showed me huge love and support, helped me overcome my past traumas and build my confidence.

Then there was a tipping point - we both attempted to give up smoking at the same time. I succeeded, he didn't. He couldn't bear it. It was a symbol that I had now surpassed his mental strength, and it broke our marriage, for him. He could not conceive that I would stay with him if I didn't NEED him. He began persistently accusing me of sleeping with other men, of thinking I was "soooo superior with your big words and office clothes", of putting him down if I said anything that remotely disagreed with his viewpoint, or that he could possibly mis-interpret so as to start a fight.

Sound familiar?

I had to leave. It was hard. I wanted so much the loving, supportive relationship that we had started with. But it was just an illusion, founded on his perceived superior/more powerful position. Letting go of that belief in his essential goodness and love was such a hard thing to do. But I had to, because his constant verbal attacks had me treading on eggshells by the end, and that's no way to live.

Get out - concentrate on your career for a bit, then open yourself up to meeting with someone who makes good parent material (if that's what you want) and who isn't threatened by your strength.

And congratulations on your success! You deserve someone who wants to celebrate your achievements, not try to bring you down.

MarshmallowAra · 10/03/2021 08:55

Your promotion and salary increase has clearly really got to him; otherwise why would he start picking about you paying for a meal; when you'd previously taken turns paying and he had no problem with it.

He was ok.as long as you weren't earning more than him (I'm presuming) or appearing significantly more successful than him. Seems like you've both put earned him and bought s property before him and it's bringing out all his sexism and bitterness and nastiness. It's showing you who he is.

The other thing is if you marry him, he'll get a claim on your assets ..
And you'll be disadvantaged in a divorce, which you could very well want to given his behaviour. You'll be stuck between losing your assets and staying in an abusive marriage.

thosetalesofunexpected · 10/03/2021 08:55

@SJane910374

I eho, All the other posters on this thread about supporting and encouraging to leave this emotionally abusive man child.

(Please ensure you do get rid of him before your self Cofindence is eroded to such a critical extent, that you start to question your self and your sanity etc.!

Also I hope you treat yourself on a regular basis,when lockdown restrictions are lifted soon,such as joing a health spa to enjoy a Jacuzzi, sauna/hot steam swimming sessions etc.

And also be beneficial to treat yourself to holistic(Complentary Therapy sessions of various kinds for e.g hot stone massage is good,

(I don't know if you have tried these op?

Also why on earth have you been settling for this kind of crap, with man child dude then?

I think its time to explore this ,why you have put up with this kind of crap,
I think it be beneficial and its defiantly time to book some/few sessions for counselling therapy op.

p.s why on earth are you forking out paying for your parents Bills etc then op?
(Don't they get state pensions ?
Are your parents entitled to other parents in any way then?

do you parents have health disorders,that make it a struggle /or difficult to sustain working even partime working?

(Just wondering why they/or one of them is not working?
Are they at ages they have retired from working?

(I do think if you are living in the uk/or a different country where they have state pensions or state benefits to look into your parents recieving this,
so your parents are not so financially dependant on you .

(I think it be better,beneficial for you and them

(even if your parents can not do paid work for them to do dome sort of volunteering work,like you have.

Also the money you earn instead of using some of this to pay all your parents bills etc.

Could you stop paying their bills or not pay so much of everything,

For e.g to pay for Only for them to save up for a holidays for them once a year or short breaks sometimes instead.

thosetalesofunexpected · 10/03/2021 08:57

Oops typo mistake, I ment are you parents not entitled to state benefits/ or state pensions in any way then op?

MarshmallowAra · 10/03/2021 08:58

when he starts ranting about women and feminism.

He sounds like a "red pill", misogynist ... You won't change someone like that.

He'll find other red pill men online and they'll be an echo chamber of women hating and women blaming and his society has changed to put women on top and everything's fucked up and blah blah blah.

You can't change fundamental beliefs like that.

Chickychickydodah · 10/03/2021 08:58

I’d get rid, he is rude and a twat !

Pokske · 10/03/2021 09:00

Many men want independent women because it makes it easy for them, but at the same time the resent them
Just leave this miserable man who did not keep up with the 21st (even 20th) century.
If he's lucky he will find a backward slave to boss around so he can feel good about himself.

thosetalesofunexpected · 10/03/2021 09:01

Oops another Typo mistake op.

I do think if your parents can not do paid work?
(It would be beneficial for them to do volunteering work,if they have reasonable good health.

MarshmallowAra · 10/03/2021 09:03

I get the impression from op's writing style, from living at home etc. that she's from an ethnic minority ... Hence the supporting parents.

It can be v hard for women from communities with very "traditional" views of women because some are encouraged to excel academically and professionally .. but then when finding a partner, are still coming up against chauvanist beliefs. You have to find the non chauvanist male members of the community, or partner up outside the community with a (non chauvanist!) man.

This man does not belong to either group.

MarshmallowAra · 10/03/2021 09:03

Excell

SJane910374 · 10/03/2021 09:04

[quote thosetalesofunexpected]@SJane910374

I eho, All the other posters on this thread about supporting and encouraging to leave this emotionally abusive man child.

(Please ensure you do get rid of him before your self Cofindence is eroded to such a critical extent, that you start to question your self and your sanity etc.!

Also I hope you treat yourself on a regular basis,when lockdown restrictions are lifted soon,such as joing a health spa to enjoy a Jacuzzi, sauna/hot steam swimming sessions etc.

And also be beneficial to treat yourself to holistic(Complentary Therapy sessions of various kinds for e.g hot stone massage is good,

(I don't know if you have tried these op?

Also why on earth have you been settling for this kind of crap, with man child dude then?

I think its time to explore this ,why you have put up with this kind of crap,
I think it be beneficial and its defiantly time to book some/few sessions for counselling therapy op.

p.s why on earth are you forking out paying for your parents Bills etc then op?
(Don't they get state pensions ?
Are your parents entitled to other parents in any way then?

do you parents have health disorders,that make it a struggle /or difficult to sustain working even partime working?

(Just wondering why they/or one of them is not working?
Are they at ages they have retired from working?

(I do think if you are living in the uk/or a different country where they have state pensions or state benefits to look into your parents recieving this,
so your parents are not so financially dependant on you .

(I think it be better,beneficial for you and them

(even if your parents can not do paid work for them to do dome sort of volunteering work,like you have.

Also the money you earn instead of using some of this to pay all your parents bills etc.

Could you stop paying their bills or not pay so much of everything,

For e.g to pay for Only for them to save up for a holidays for them once a year or short breaks sometimes instead.[/quote]
My parents don’t have great health and one of them gets pension. Both don’t work anymore.

I chose to pay their bills as it’s the least I can do for all the love and support they have given me over the years. Also their costs are not that significant anyway.

OP posts:
overnightangel · 10/03/2021 09:05

Run like the fucking wind

SJane910374 · 10/03/2021 09:06

@MarshmallowAra

I get the impression from op's writing style, from living at home etc. that she's from an ethnic minority ... Hence the supporting parents.

It can be v hard for women from communities with very "traditional" views of women because some are encouraged to excel academically and professionally .. but then when finding a partner, are still coming up against chauvanist beliefs. You have to find the non chauvanist male members of the community, or partner up outside the community with a (non chauvanist!) man.

This man does not belong to either group.

I don’t live at home with parents but yes I am from ethnic background.
OP posts:
missperegrinespeculiar · 10/03/2021 09:19

Jesus, leave him! he is insecure, feels threatened by your success, he is sexist. You will not be happy with this man, eventually he will try to bring you down one way or another.

Your partner should support you and be happy and proud of your achievements. This one will rejoice if you fail because it will make him feel better about himself, could you live with that?

Frankly, I'd have dumped him when he said "women think they are so independent these days"