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Breaking up with someone you really love

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warmite · 06/03/2021 13:33

I am on the verge of breaking up with someone I really love because he has issues up the wazoo and I feel really bad about it. I know when I post here everyone will tell me to run (I know that's the logical decision) but wanted to ask if anyone has left someone they really, properly love and who loves them?

The relationship has always been just potential, there's always some reason he can't fully be there or can't give me what I want and three years on we love each other more than ever but it's affected me deeply now because I am a hostage to his anxiety.

His entire life is based on anxiety and that's how he makes all his decisions. His issues are mainly fear of abandonment, Aspergers which makes him rigid, deep-seated phobia of dependence on me and some severe childhood trauma along with abusive previous relationships.

The first year it was great in so many ways, we fell in love easily and had a great time, but he was also reluctant to do some things that would have made me happy. That might have meant things like having to drag him by the teeth to a mini-break or something like that.

When the time came to "move in together", the took a job really far away (he says he deeply regrets that now) but we've basically been "long distance" for a couple of years now which has really sapped my quality of life.

Over these past years, we tackled a lot of his issues. He now feels safe in this relationship, he's vulnerable, he wants to get married and he's so loving and we get on so brilliantly. It's the most lovely relationship I have ever had in so many ways.

He's also taken steps the last few months to tackle his past wounds, and work on himself. He's been in counselling, reading self-help books and we have a weekly "intimacy hour" where we talk about the big stuff. He's grown SO much, and I love him more than ever.

However, I want to live together and be able to do normal things like hang out on Sundays and spend time together and while he says he desperately wants this, I sense he is still avoiding it.

He misses me terribly and is miserable. I miss him terribly and I am also miserable. But right now, he is due to come home in May when his contract ends, and he's hesitant.

His reason is not having a new job to go to yet, so he wants to extend his contract past May so he can keep his current job in place until he finds a new one.

My position is "no way", we agreed two years and I can't live a minute longer with my life on hold. We hardly ever see each other and life is passing us by. I told him to come home and look for a job, we can easily live on just my income and we have lots of savings.

I can only describe his reaction as truly phobic.

If I tell him "fine, stay there longer if you want but I am moving on" then he suddenly gets rational and says he understands and of course he will come home and start a proper life with me.

As soon as things are back on track, he wakes up in the morning anxious and starts saying he thinks he might never get a job and then what if his career is ruined and what if I leave him.

I know Aspie people need structure and I know anxiety and rigidity of thinking is an issues, and I know his past fears play into this but it is literally maddening.

We have split up for a few days over this and he has literally been crying all week. He cries when he wakes up and at lunchtime (and he is not a cryer). He says he can't imagine a life without me at all and please if I stay he will come home.

I know if I renege, he will go back to being anxious and trying to get out of coming home. It's really bleak to be honest, and he's been so stressed he's currently at the doctors trying to get help.

All this taken into account, he is the most wonderful person I have ever. We have a lovely relationship and we're stupidly in love and happy with each other and it's such a shame he just can't seem to get a grip on his anxiety.

It's almost like he is afraid to begin our life together and after three years I am at the end of my tether. I know I have to walk away to live a life, but I am just so sad about it.

Has anyone got any experience of anxiety that is so powerful? I thought the counselling would help, and it does with some things, but his anxiety is so pronounced that he get anxious about the counselling!

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Sakurami · 06/03/2021 13:37

Not sure I would want to saddle myself with this drama.

But if you do, then tell him you're not going to discuss this further. To put money where his mouth is and come to stay in May or to leave you alone.

warmite · 06/03/2021 13:39

AIBU to expect him to come home with or without a job in place? He thinks it is better to stay until he has a new job, but I just feel we had a deal of two years (which has already been painful every single day) and I feel like two years of my life are wasted in a lot of ways. Without him here I stay at home a lot (single Mum in London) and I am really lonely. I make enough money for us both so I think he is being irrational!

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rawalpindithelabrador · 06/03/2021 13:42

You have to love you first before you'll ever have a healthy relationship. This one is not it.

My son has these conditions and tbh, he's never going to be relationship material.

You're making a huge rod for your back taking on his conditions and I'd be very fearful of going further with him because if you have a greater chance of having a child with autism when one of the parents has it.

Don't you think you deserve more than this? BEcause this will never get better. Ever.

You need counselling to boost your self-esteem and figure out why you think the most you deserve in life is to be someone's emotional punching bag.

Please walk away.

warmite · 06/03/2021 13:45

I already have a child with autism :) Best thing that ever happened to me and all the lovely qualities of people on the spectrum is one of the main reasons I love my DP.

My son's been raised in a healthy, happy home and is more than capable of giving love and being in a healthy relationship but my DP wasn't so lucky and after leaving a traumatic home, he was vulnerable to falling into a marriage with someone older who was very abusing mentally.

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rawalpindithelabrador · 06/03/2021 13:47

@warmite

AIBU to expect him to come home with or without a job in place? He thinks it is better to stay until he has a new job, but I just feel we had a deal of two years (which has already been painful every single day) and I feel like two years of my life are wasted in a lot of ways. Without him here I stay at home a lot (single Mum in London) and I am really lonely. I make enough money for us both so I think he is being irrational!
You're VERY unreasonable to want to have this man in your home with your kid! FFS. And yes, if anyone posted on here that they had a needy girlfriend or boyfriend who wanted them to move in with them at distance and quit their job to do so, they'd be told to get away from such a needy, controlling person!

WTAF! Why would he be so stupid as to give up his financial independence to bide with an unmarried partner? It can be really hard for people with autism to find decent employment.

Why do you need him there to go out?

You sound like you have plenty of issues, too. Put your child first, leave this man and work on why you're so co-dependent.

rawalpindithelabrador · 06/03/2021 13:49

@warmite

I already have a child with autism :) Best thing that ever happened to me and all the lovely qualities of people on the spectrum is one of the main reasons I love my DP.

My son's been raised in a healthy, happy home and is more than capable of giving love and being in a healthy relationship but my DP wasn't so lucky and after leaving a traumatic home, he was vulnerable to falling into a marriage with someone older who was very abusing mentally.

This man is not a project! He's not your job to sort out and you're being just as controlling to him, quite honestly, getting him to go to counselling, wanting him to move in with you and give his job. If this were a woman posting about their partner wanting them to quit their job and move in with them she'd be told to run, quite rightly.
Stickytreacle · 06/03/2021 13:52

I think I'd give him six months to find another job, if it doesn't happen and he is too afraid to come back then Ithink you've got your answer. I don't think you'll have an easy life with him though.

DoverSoul · 06/03/2021 13:52

The relationship has always been just potential, there's always some reason he can't fully be there or can't give me what I want and three years on we love each other more than ever but it's affected me deeply now because I am a hostage to his anxiety.

Read that over again.

If you are as happy and in love as you say you are it's going to hurt like hell but you can't live the rest of your life dancing to his tune, even though it might not be intentional on his part. Look at it like putting a much loved pet out of its misery - kindest thing to do but it breaks your heart.

Branleuse · 06/03/2021 13:53

I think it might be worth getting some relationship therapy by yourself. Your partner needs to decide whether hes gonna shit, or get off the pot.
Maybe this guy would be better as a friend if he doesnt have it in him to actually commit

Aquamarine1029 · 06/03/2021 13:55

Haven't you wasted enough time already?

warmite · 06/03/2021 13:56

@rawalpindithelabrador you've completely misunderstood.

He lived here. He asked me to wait for him while he took a two year post a very long way away. I agreed to wait two years. He now wants to extend the two years. It was always out deal that I would stay in the relationship on the basis of waiting two years and he is moving the goalposts

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Tlollj · 06/03/2021 13:58

@Branleuse said it tell him to shit or get off the pot.

litterbird · 06/03/2021 14:04

If he is diagnosed with adult Aspergers then you know very well how this demonstrates in adults. The change in him moving in with you and your child is too enormous for him. You must understand this? He will not cope with the structure change, the noise and the busy ness of a full household. You know he may change immediately he moves in and what you see as love and affection can stop due to Aspergers. Please listen to this man who is struggling deeply not knowing what to do to please you but is struggling with his anxiety due to the diagnosis. Please go back and read and read and read more about adult Aspergers in relationships then give him space and time to make his own decision without any pressure.

Hecktotheno · 06/03/2021 14:04

We all have issues. Can he put his aside to help you with yours, in the same way you've done for him? If not, move on. A relationship should lift you up, not grind you down.

YellowHello · 06/03/2021 14:05

How far away is his post OP? It doesn't sound like a good relationship for you, I'm not sure whether he will ever be able to give you what you need. Two years away is a long time.

RiojaRose · 06/03/2021 14:06

I’m not sure I’d advise anyone to give up a job in order to move in with someone they’ve been in a long term relationship with for two years but have never lived with. So if he were posting this I’d probably agree with his perspective.

I can’t help thinking that there’s an unreasonable expectation in the idea that people can deal with their issues and change their behaviour as a result. Not sure where it comes from, but it’s everywhere. People don’t usually change very much. Or if they do, it takes decades rather than months.

Can you live with your partner’s anxiety for decades? Will you always interpret it as a lack of commitment? Can you focus your sense of security and comfort on a life you build for yourself, rather than needing your partner to provide it? I don’t mean to be harsh, but from what you say I don’t see that everything will be automatically better for you if your partner leaves his job and moves in with you. So if you break up it makes more sense to do it because you’re emotionally incompatible rather than because he won’t do what you want.

YellowHello · 06/03/2021 14:07

Does he have kids OP?

Branleuse · 06/03/2021 14:16

what about if he came back down but lived close by, short walking distance, so he kept his own space

Cindersrellie · 06/03/2021 14:37

Yes, I ended a ten year relationship. We both loved each other but wanted different types of life. Living with him was such a drag. What I learnt is: loving each other isn't enough to make it work. It's heartbreaking. You only get one life and I just couldn't bear for the rest of mine to be centred around trying to make him better. The relief once it's over was amazing and I've never regretted it.

Sisterlove · 06/03/2021 16:14

I don't think he should give up his job without another one secured.

That would be rather unwise.

BlueThistles · 06/03/2021 16:33

Yes I would ..

youvegottenminuteslynn · 06/03/2021 16:45

You can't have a healthy, happy relationship with this man and a healthy, happy household for your child. You know you need to end it.

In answer to your question yes I have broken up with someone I deeply loved and who deeply loved me. He was deeply anxious about just about everything in his life and desperately wanted, in concept, to commit and be together long term but his crippling anxiety and inability to make decisions meant we hadn't lived together after four years. His lack of commitment in anything other than words was chipping away at my happiness, self esteem and confidence. I know he genuinely wished he wasn't the way he was and would have loved to have woken up one morning and felt excited about living together, marriage, kids etc, but the reality was that he simultaneously wanted those things but was afraid of fucking them up.

I realised that him feeling that way wasn't my burden to bear. I took it on for four years but as a friend asked me at the time, did I really want to spend the rest of my life pushing water uphill with a rake? I was exhausted from carrying the mental load of our relationship.

We were both absolutely devastated when we broke up. But the reality is that I deserved to be with someone who was in love with me and excited about the future with me, not in love with me but terrified the future would go wrong so kept us both stuck in limbo.

My life is now calm and I have a partner who is a real equal and mutually supportive, not someone who wants the world to accommodate their wants and needs without being willing to work on themselves.

Anyway, yes it's sometimes right to break up with someone you love. Or you'll spend forever pushing water uphill with a rake.

warmite · 06/03/2021 17:22

@litterbird I don't insist he moves in with me, I just insist he moves the the same hemisphere. My child is also nearly 18 so no noise and mess :)

@YellowHello an 8 hour flight! It's been an absolute lonely nightmare, particularly with the pandemic. We got 10 days together in a year. I just CANNOT do anymore.

@RiojaRose the job he took overseas was ALWAYS meant to be a limited two year contract, now, after I have waited 21 months he is saying he wants to stay longer. Imagine my frustration... I don't mind his anxiety as long as he's physically here.

@Branleuse I already said that was fine. I can compromise.

@youvegottenminuteslynn This sounds a lot like my situation :( My guy is in love with me but terrified the future will go wrong and I have been in limbo for years.

I can see that I need to permanently end it. I just feel so unbelievably sad about it.

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rawalpindithelabrador · 06/03/2021 17:35

It's wrong to insist and that he gives up his job. You need to move on. Yes, I ended an 8 year relationship with someone I was deeply in love with because we were not ultimately compatible. It happens.

Branleuse · 06/03/2021 17:42

in that case, id definitely be saying he needs to come back closer or im out