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What do you do when your 15 year old son

36 replies

KinseyWinsey · 03/03/2021 14:53

Tells you to go fuck yourseff?

OP posts:
Outbutnotoutout · 03/03/2021 15:03

Remove his phone, pc, until he can apologise and act appropriately

KinseyWinsey · 03/03/2021 15:04

What do you do when he's built like a brick shit house and merely smashes things up when you take action?

OP posts:
Fuckityfucksake · 03/03/2021 15:06

Ask him who the fuck he thinks he's speaking to!
After that, I'm guessing it's been said in anger or frustration?
Let him cool off and explain that you will not be spoken to like that again. He is out of order and disrespectful and if it does happen again then loss of his privileges, that you pay for, will occur. See it through.

Is it out of character? does he have issues expressing his feelings normally? Has anything changed recently that he is worried about?
Are a few things I'd question.

Silenceisgolden20 · 03/03/2021 15:07

Oh then you have a bigger issue than swearing

6demandingchildren · 03/03/2021 15:07

Once he is calm you will have to sit him down and explain why he can't act like that, also make him pay for any damages he causes.

Flyingf1edgelings · 03/03/2021 15:08

With your update I’d phone the police. Unacceptable. Is there an underlying issue with him?

minniemoocher · 03/03/2021 15:13

Is there a father? I would suggest even if you aren't together he needs to step up and support you. Social services is your other port of call for advice, if you feel in danger call the police. You are not alone

Iamblossom · 03/03/2021 15:19

I don't know, it has never happened with either of them, nothing remotely like it in fact, and I hope it never would. Unhelpful but you did ask.

More helpfully, agree with PP that it doesn't sound like this has come out of the blue and he has form for aggression, verbal and physical. If it has gone this far I think you do need to seek outside support and help, possibly via the authorities, as your relationship aside, he is not legally allowed to threaten you never mind cause you harm.

Unanananana · 03/03/2021 15:26

With the physical violence I'd have him arrested, son or not.

Fuckityfucksake · 03/03/2021 15:27

Sorry I commented just after you'd updated OP
Yep if he's being aggressive and damaging property etc..
Then you need external help.

AllMyPrettyOnes · 03/03/2021 15:28

@KinseyWinsey

What do you do when he's built like a brick shit house and merely smashes things up when you take action?
Police
historysmiles12 · 03/03/2021 15:29

Can you speak to the school? Counselor or head of year?

justanotherneighinparadise · 03/03/2021 15:31

I think it’s really difficult to say as it really depends on what came before. How he has been raised in terms of how he can speak to you? What consequences are standard for the household? Any additional needs/past traumas/mitigating circumstances?

Context is everything.

AnneLovesGilbert · 03/03/2021 15:31

Why focus on the swearing rather than the da heroics criminal violence? In the case of the latter you obviously phone the police because you and anyone else in the house is at serious risk.

crosshatching · 03/03/2021 15:32

Hi there does he have any other underlying issues or problems? You could try googling Young Minds for their help, also look up the anger iceberg image. Anger is often the outward presentation of a host of internal problems.
Are you getting regular breaks from each other? Sometimes you need a bit of distance from each other to cool down, get some perspective and put plans or consequences into place. Is there anyone at school who could help?
Good luck to you I know this can be exhausting, infuriating, frustrating and heart-breaking all at the same time.

TupilaLilium · 03/03/2021 15:33

I am not sure, really and your situation is serious.

With my teen boys I always work the angle that I am a person, and like all people I deserve respect. My biggest weapon is telling them they hurt my feelings. I tend to walk away from them when they are really arsey.

You don't give a lot of detail, but you also might try and "mood match", by which I mean stay calm, reasonable, and don't engage with anger. Like you would with an angry 3 year old, you can address the issues without letting your emotions add to the anger or chaos in the room. He is feeling very emotional and if you feed it by matching anger it will all grow even more chaotic. It is hard to rage at someone who is calm.

Outbutnotoutout · 03/03/2021 15:33

@KinseyWinsey

What do you do when he's built like a brick shit house and merely smashes things up when you take action?
Call the police and have him arrested
mummywantstobeslim · 03/03/2021 15:35

Tough one. Contact the school/ children's services, tell them you cannot cope. He is violent physically and verbally and that if he doesn't leave you will kick him out ( I know that's extreme but it's your safety at risk here)

HollowTalk · 03/03/2021 15:36

You can't deal with this on your own, OP. It's dangerous. I think you need to call the police immediately you become threatened. Is his dad around? Is there anyone in the family who he respects?

BalancedIndividual · 03/03/2021 15:50

Get his dad or another male authority figure to put him in his place.

user1493494961 · 03/03/2021 16:10

Call the police, give him the shock of his life, if he carries on the way he is he'll likely end up in prison.

Onelifeonly · 03/03/2021 16:15

Depends whether you feel he could be a danger to you or another family member. Police if so - they won't necessarily arrest him but would calm the situation and make onward emergency referrals to social care.

If it's bluster, keep at a distance and allow things to calm down. At 15 you could leave the home for a short while unless you think he is at risk of serious self harm or causing significant damage.

If you think its mental health related, you can call an ambulance.

Is there a history of this sort of behaviour?

KittensTeaAndCake · 03/03/2021 16:16

You need to find out the reason for it. Is this a recent thing or has he always been like it?

sunnyzweibrucken · 03/03/2021 16:18

Son or not, with any violence i'd call the police without a doubt.

Fireflygal · 03/03/2021 16:21

Context is relevant. Does he have SEN? Is this a recent change to behaviour.

It would be terrifying if a 15 year old boy acted liked this as assume he is almost adult side. Calling the police would be the last resort and if he was in danger or putting others at risk and could not be reasoned with.

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