Is this acceptable in your eyes?

[TutiFrutti]

My understanding of the covid vax for carers is that if the person you care for is cev or their care would be compromised if the carer were ill then the carer can be offered the jab sooner.
Is it acceptable in your eyes to phone the gp to request a jab on those terms when the person cared for is neither of those things.
Does have an extremely mild learning issue (think dyslexia for example) but is in no way vulnerable in the context of covid.
I'd like to hear different perspectives on this.
I should add I realise the end goal is for the maximum amount of people to be offered the vax as possible so I have no issue about anyone getting it, it's the exaggeration of a childs needs for their own ends that's not sitting comfortably with me.

Why do you ask?

This has been covered on the Covid board.
I got an NHS letter stating that I should have the jab as I was caring for someone who was clinically vulnerable. My DS has ASD and is not clinically vulnerable.
However, on clicking on the website, it seems that by getting the Carers Allowance, it automatically triggers an invite, regardless. If you don't get CA, then you don't get the invite.
The consenus seems to be that if you got Covid, then your caring duties will obviously be affected and this has a knock on affect.
I've booked my jab. I wouldn't have rung my GP to get it sooner.

No I don't think it's acceptable unless the person being cared for is especially vulnerable to covid themselves or at undue risk should the carer be ill and to exaggerate the need would be unreasonable. Everybody needs the jab.

We all have to have the jab at some point so I don’t think it matters

@NotAgainNoMore

This has been covered on the Covid board. I got an NHS letter stating that I should have the jab as I was caring for someone who was clinically vulnerable. My DS has ASD and is not clinically vulnerable. However, on clicking on the website, it seems that by getting the Carers Allowance, it automatically triggers an invite, regardless. If you don't get CA, then you don't get the invite. The consenus seems to be that if you got Covid, then your caring duties will obviously be affected and this has a knock on affect. I've booked my jab. I wouldn't have rung my GP to get it sooner.

This ^ It's triggered by receiving carers allowance.

The rules are very clear with regard to the vaccination criteria. Getting a jab because your child has dyslexia is not one of them.

It's triggered by receiving carers allowance.

Maybe, maybe not. I receive CA, but DW and I had our jabs because she (who isn't in any of the CEV groups) got a call from our GP two weeks ago.

The more people that get vaccinated the better for all of us ... yes it would be nice to get the remaining 40,000,000 in perfect order from 1 to forty million, but the odd mix up in places is nothing compared to getting another person vaccinated.

Unpaid carers can also flag themselves by phoning their GP to be flagged. Is this what you mean OP?

Thanks for the replies, I'm not really bothered about who gets the jab when, like I said, the more people who get it the better.
It was more the using or exaggeration of a childs disability for your own ends that's annoyed me.
For context this person rang me to say "I'm using this (child) to get a vax sooner"
She is very much someone who puts herself first but to use a child doesn't sit comfortably with me.
If I'm honest I'm probably more annoyed because I have a (now adult) child who is cev. I haven't asked the gp to be put forward for the vax because he doesn't live with me.
This is not the 1st time this person has used her child this way and it's putting a strain on our friendship.

I wouldn’t let it worry you!

I’m classed as a carer for Dd for certain purposes but don’t receive any carers allowances - but I haven’t asked for the vaccine as a carer.

Mind you I’m group 6 myself so hoping it’ll be soon!

Perhaps you do not know the criteria for eligibility for carers allowance (registered with your GP if you earn too much to receive CA with evidence that the person you care for receives eligible benefits) and so be in Group 6?

www.gov.uk/carers-allowance/eligibility

In your friends case (I assume) the DC would need to qualify for and so be in receipt of mid or high rate DLA. This is an objective measure assessed by the DWP, not the GP, using a 40 page application form and reams of medical evidence.

It really doesn't matter what you say to the GP. They don't have the power to decide eligibility to DLA and hence CA and hence eligibility to be included in Group 6.

I can understand that people who's loved ones or CEV or single parents are pissed off they are not in group 6 but smearing those who are eligible as undeserving is ugly and divisive.

@Karwomannghia

Unpaid carers can also flag themselves by phoning their GP to be flagged. Is this what you mean OP?

Yes, she has flagged herself as an unpaid carer. I'm glad she's had the jab, we all need it. It's just the use of the child. It's not the first time it's happened just different circumstances. I know this family extremely well and I know the dla criteria. I'm also aware that said childs have changed over the years but if the renewal forms are written then it will continue to be awarded. I appreciate I probably sound bitter but I've just reached a realisation that my moral compass is different to theirs which like I said is stretching the friendship.

Sorry, that should have said if the dla renewal forms are written not reflecting the improvements in the childs condition then it will continue to be awarded.

No you don’t sound bitter, I was just saying generally that you don’t have to be claiming carers allowance. I’ve flagged myself with my GP as my mum is over 70, widowed recently and CEV and I often take her food/to appointments/ general errands (sorting out kitchen drawers today!) I don’t know the criteria though and would happily be taken off if found to be taking the piss. definitely a stretch to class yourself as a carer for a child with dyslexia though!. Also in a way though all parents should be classed as carers because when the primary carer gets ill it does make life difficult for their children particularly for single parents. But I digress!