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Non-monogamous to exclusive to infidelity. Where to from here?

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korimako · 01/03/2021 13:01

Kia ora! First time poster, long time lurker. I'm not a parent, but I think there's some good advice on these boards so hope you don't mind me posting. I'm also not in the UK.

My partner and I started out in an open relationship. This was his idea and he's previously had an open marriage whereas it was a first for me. It didn't work - jealousy on his part, insecurity on mine - and he suggested we have an exclusive relationship. We kept the door open for resuming a non-monogamous relationship in the future.

He cheated on me just before Christmas, I found out just after Christmas. We stayed together, and agreed we'd continue an exclusive relationship while scheduling a 'non monogamy chat' for late February.

Someone he used to sleep with contacted him when her relationship broke up a month ago. We talked then about whether he wanted to sleep with her. He assured me he didn't, and I asked that if that changed he talked to me about it first as we're still in an exclusive relationship. I want to be able to make my own decisions about what is acceptable to me in a relationship.

They have been messaging each other each week attempting to catch up. The messages have been pretty blatant about why.

This came up in our 'what's next for non monogamy chat' we had today, as I shared my insecurities about this woman specifically. He straight out lied to me, saying he wasn't in contact with her and ignored her messages. That was an absolute lie, as I have seen a message from today where he invited her over - it was a very clear invitation to hook up, which she refused. I don't think I can call him out on this as it will mean admitting I looked at his messages.

I hate that I've looked. To me, it's a symbol of the lack of trust in our relationship. It's also very important to me that I'm respected by my partner and I'm aware this is a sign I'm not showing that same respect. But even more so, I hate that he's lying to me like this.

I want to be in this relationship. I love him, he says he loves me. Our relationship is pretty volatile but we always get it back on track through good communication. But, I don't want to be in a relationship where I'm being lied to, or just told what someone thinks I want to hear. Particularly since I'm genuinely open to having a non monogamous relationship as long as we're clear about our parameters.

I also hate the lack of respect he shows women in these types of interactions - he hasn't told this woman for example we're still together and that we are in an exclusive relationship. The same thing holds - she has the right to this information to make her own informed choices.

I'm not sure why I'm posting, as I know what advice I'd give a friend. However, I'd appreciate any sage advice you have to offer. It has helped writing this all down at least.

OP posts:
Closetbeanmuncher · 01/03/2021 19:18

Pretty much impossible for him to keep his cock in his pants isn't it!? Nice.

What he wants is a one sided open relationship. Him doing whatever he wants whilst you are monogamous. His eggshell ego and chimp like rationalle can't seem to handle anything else can it?

I'd sack him off.

Closetbeanmuncher · 01/03/2021 21:02

I have my life pretty sorted

Then why in God's name are you settling for this fucking cushion humper???

Hes just another cheat who wanted to see if you would be down to keep quiet about his shinanigans by dressing it up as an open relationship.

Great communication, with a liar??

Come on now op, this fucker is barrel scrapings at best.

Raise that bar already.

Sn0tnose · 01/03/2021 23:02

Our relationship is pretty volatile but we always get it back on track through good communication. I’m going to sound really harsh but I mean this in the kindest possible way. Nowhere in your post is there a description of a relationship which is on track. Also, you have terrible communication. He wanted open, he got jealous, he wanted exclusive, he cheated, he’s lied to you about his contact with this woman and if she hadn’t turned him down, he’d be lying to you about his whereabouts now. It’s a car crash of a relationship.

It's also very important to me that I'm respected by my partner and I'm aware this is a sign I'm not showing that same respect So why have you let that wish to be respected fly out of the window with this dickhead? Because he couldn’t show you any less respect than he is right now. He doesn’t want an open relationship. What he wants is is for you to be exclusively his and for him to be able to shag about as the fancy takes him, with no comeback on him. What he wants is permission to cheat on you on a regular basis.

korimako · 03/03/2021 03:00

@holrosea thank you for sharing - that really resonated with me.

Thank you again to everyone who's commented. Your perspectives and what you've emphasised from my original post have really helped me to reflect on what's going here, especially some of the links you've identified across what I've said. I absolutely take the point about communication - what's good about me sharing how I'm feeling if he agrees/discusses it then does what he wants to do regardless.

I'll absolutely be taking everything that's been said on board. This has turned out to be a safe place to express what I'm feeling and observing, and hear some objective and independent views, and I'm really grateful for that. It's been a good - if challenging - reality check. Thanks!

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1forAll74 · 03/03/2021 04:30

Have never understood why people wan't open relationships. when staying single would be better. I have known a few people in open relationships,and there are usually problems within them sooner or later.

User1511 · 03/03/2021 04:34

I never say this. But LTB. This relationship is doomed.

DeeCeeCherry · 03/03/2021 04:40

I guess it's no fun for him if there's no lying and sneaking around element. Cheats tend to get off on this 'thrill' aspect. So an open relationship doesn't really suit them, they just tell you that's what they want so they can reel you into their games.

You'd be far better off single and just having sex when you feel like it. Even if it's not with him.

After all you clearly want different things so you're just wasting your own time right now.

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