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I'm so, so unhappy

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Ruffllefluffle · 27/02/2021 21:16

I don't believe that I am clinically depressed, but probably as a result of my situation, but I'm struggling to find a way out.

I aren't really looking for advice on what to do, because I already know that and I'm working towards separation from him. Covid-19 has really caused a massive headache for me in terms of finances and work prospects. I have an autoimmune condition meaning I have had to shield throughout mostly, which has hugely impacted my work and earning capability. I know I just have to wait a little longer before I can stand on my own two feet and leave this situation, but it's getting me down hugely. This is going to be a really long post, but I just need space to talk... to someone, anyone really who doesn't know me or my family.

People think DH is this lovely, easy-going chap. Older women who know him always tell me that they had wished they'd married someone just like him. When I met him he was kind and generous, caring and romantic.

He's not like that anymore. He is awful to live with and I'd like to explain all the reasons why I'm struggling.

He is so oppositional, if I say I like something he'll come up with a reason why it's ugly, if I say I've tried a new recipe I think he'll like, he will say "oh it's lovely, but...." and list the reaons it's not. He's passive aggressive I believe and will sulk and walk around with a face like thunder saying there is nothing wrong for days when there obviously is.

He can't plan ahead at all. I try to sit and make decisions around future holidays, finances, birthday parties and he'll just shrug his shoulders and play on his phone. Yet if I'm assertive enough to make a decision without him, he complains, finds fault and gives me the black cloud treatment for days.

If I'm doing something that might inconvenience him, I'll ask him for permission and say to him to tell me if he'd rather I didn't do it and he always, always says it's ok. I don't think he wants to say no to things sometimes, but will then throw it in my face that I have inconvenienced him in some way in the future when we have an argument.

He's so pedantic about everything and he'll completely derail a point I'm making about something and nitpick at the insignificant details which makes me lose track of my argument and doubt myself. I then get angry and shouty and feel like a lunatic whilst he stands there all calm and logical saying "you're mental."

He takes no pride in himself at all and still, at 42, wears hand me downs from his older brother, along with ripped trousers and he smells. The smell is caused by a medical condition he has which requires the use of creams and regular washing 2-3 times a day, but he only washes once and forgets to use his creams, allowing himself to smell. I confronted him about this and he said it was fine as he "only smells at the end of the day." He's also extremely overweight since he started binge eating in the evenings a couple of years ago. It's become a habit, like a lot of things in his life.

Other habits are constantly clicking his fingers when watching TV, foot jiggling and picking skin off his feet. He also shouts from room to room, bangs around everywhere he goes and slams doors and cupboards. I find the constant noise exhausting.

He is tight with money and yet reckless at the same time. He refuses to budget at all and will buy something he wants even if he can't afford it. And yet, our garden is a state and a great proportion of it taken up by a gigantic shed that we inherited when we bought the house. It is taking up so much room that we don't even have a patio area to sit at, but he refuses to get rid of it and buy a smaller one "because it was free." There are so many things I'd like to do with the garden and he refuses to get rid of this massive bloody shed.

We moved into this house 5.5 years ago and for the last 2 years, I've hated it, due to not being able to afford the work it requires to the rear of the house. I haven't wanted to tell him, because I know he'll sulk because he hates change and tell me all the reaons I'm wrong to want to move to a smaller, affordable house which doesn't have a great shed clogging up the garden. Not only this, but getting him to part with any old furniture or fixtures that we no longer need is a huge hassle as he hoards them in this massive shed which is now full of old rubbish that we don't need. He makes life feel stuck. There is no moving forward.

When we take the children out, he's like a zombie- daydreams and dawdles around like a young child himself, not proactively parenting at all. He's dangerous when crossing roads with DCs I believe. All responsibility falls to me. He even "forgets" sometimes that they're intolerant to egg and will almost give them a wrong food if I'm not around.

He won't have anyone in to do DIY and takes it all on himself which takes forever and he makes such a mess whilst leaving me to do all the childcare, housework etc. The bathroom is still only 3/4 finished 5 years later and the wall in the front garden has been half knocked down since last Spring as he never finished the job.

He gave up on our relationship long ago and I kept asking him to make more effort, scheduled date nights etc, but he just wouldn't try. I told him we would fall apart if he didn't try but he allowed it to happen anyway. He's been spoilt by his parents in my opinion who have done too much for him going into adulthood and had a lot done for him, so I think he hasn't realised that for his own family to work- he has to work on it himself. To the outside world though he's the ideal family man. His friend's wife has made comments about me forcing him to "do all this DIY" in the past. People haven't got a clue. But because I'm the fiesty, outgoing one on the surface, they all think that he's the one "putting up" with me.

He doesn't smile much at all, everything is deadpan, yet he has a group of friends that he's known since childhood who all look out for him. He's like the needy helpless one to the outside world who his friends want to help. Infact everyone wants to help him. Even the older ladies in his office at work do stuff for him and "mummy" him.

He's really selfish and will plot in all the "away days" for himself on the family calender during the summer when he motorbikes, but has no interest in planning in family days. That's all left to me.

We have been sleeping in separate rooms for almost 3 years and for him, it's become the norm. He seems to like the rut that we're in because he can stay up until the early hours playing online games without disturbing me. I think it suits him. He's never needed much sex, he's become more and more insular as he's got older.

He has never seemed to need me at all emotionally, but accepts that I'm here to provide childcare and housework and subconsciously expects it. He shows no vulnerability at all, doesn't like being massaged or stroked or really value intimacy at all.

In the Summer, he will spend his weekends on his motorbike assuming that I'll provide all the childcare and family stuff.

I can't remember the last time I had a heart to heart with him, he never talks about what he wants for the children, the kind of parent he wants to be and just lives day by day, floating from one day to the next, taking no responsibility for the cogs of family life, but becoming resistant to any change or new ideas.

I'm such a loving person in the right environment. I live for my kids and giving them the good childhood that I never had. I feel like I'm losing myself more and more each day. I used to be so full of life. I've even started to feel anxious that this setup will kill me long before I manage to get away from my partner (if that's what to call him, I don't even know what to refer to him as anymore, I certainly don't feel like I have a husband.) It's odd too that although he makes no effort and appears to not want to be with me, he's possessive with me at the same time. He will follow me around the house, check up on what I'm doing, he's even been on MN in the past to see if I've written anything about him. I feel completely smothered. I've developed a temper around him when he's being awkward or oppositional, I try walking away from him, but there's so much I want him to realise.

My parents are useless alcoholics who won't help me get out of this situation and I think DH is so complacent because he knows I'm trapped. If my parents were half decent people, I'd have left with DCs years ago and stayed with them until I was on my feet. DH could leave to go to his parents any time.

My situation isn't awful. But it's becoming intolerable. In a few months time, I'll probably need to apply for a new, more reliable job but my confidence and self worth is at rock bottom. I am a horrible person. Sometimes, I can't help but tell DH how much I hate him. He's always so self assured that I'm crazy, and rarely takes the time to listen properly to what I have to say. I know that this marriage was long over as soon as he started doing that, which was shortly after we married if I'm honest with myself. I often think that if my parents had modelled a loving relationship towards me, DH might have done the same. He would have followed suit. But I think as my parents have never shown me that much love and loyalty, DH hasn't felt he's had to. I hate the example that is being set for our children.

I spent my whole childhood wishing my way out of my parents chaotic, alcohol filled house and feel I've let myself down. I got out and trapped myself again in this miserable situation.

There is a light at the end of the tunnel for me and I have a plan and I've spoken to a solicitor and I speak to my counsellor regularly but some days, maybe weeks, I could quite easily resign myself to my bed, hide under the duvet and give up for a few days.

Maybe that's what I need?

OP posts:
averylongtimeago · 27/02/2021 21:21

Life is too short for this. You have started to put things together- now make a proper plan.
Do it for yourself and your children- it won't be easy, but it will be better.

Geppili · 27/02/2021 21:24

God that all sounds really hard!

missbridgerton · 27/02/2021 21:37

You sound terribly unhappy.

I've always thought my own marriage was rock solid but too much time together thanks to Covid is driving a huge wedge between us. I've always fondly thought of him as eccentric. Now I'm starting to realise he's just weird. And not in a good way.

You're not alone Flowers

Songsofexperience · 27/02/2021 21:39

You've recognised and admitted to yourself that you're stuck. That's the first massive step. You won't be stuck forever.

Saltedhero · 27/02/2021 21:47

Bless you, your husband sounds useless and can completely understand you must be at the end of the line. You deserve to be happy and not live so miserably with a partner that doesn't value, respect, and love you. He sounds like a complete Manchild that is lazy and hasn't grown up!
Make a plan to leave and stick to it. Good luck.XFlowers

NotaWickedStepMum55 · 27/02/2021 21:50

I'm so sorry you are going through this. At least you have your plan. Keep that in the forefront of your mind. And when he is being an ars#, just 'grey rock' him, try hard not to let him hurt you, grit your teeth and think of the end game. It would be even better if you could send him packing back to his mummy, but that may not be possible.

My husband has some of these traits, I just tend to ignore him when he is being like that. Walk away and breathe deeply.

Ruffllefluffle · 27/02/2021 21:50

Thanks for the handhold.
Sorry you're struggling too @missbridgerton might you feel differently after lockdown? I don't think I will as things were already tough. The one good thing about lockdown for me is that DH hasn't been able to go off on his motorbike for 10 hours a day at weekends leaving me with DCs. So that is one positive I guess!

I am trying to many "healthy habits" to keep myself positively ticking over, but it's just not working very well some weeks. Still going on regular walks despite the sheilding advice and I've taken up yoga. I'm drinking lots of water, trying meditation, made my goal list for when lockdown lifts, but it doesn't change the situation and sometimes, no amount of positive thinking is lifting my spirits and giving me the energy to keep going.

OP posts:
RandomMess · 27/02/2021 21:58

He doesn't want a patio because you would (rightly) bury him under it!

ThanksThanksThanksThanksThanks

Have you had the vaccine yet? How old are the DC?

What are you next steps to moving out?

Geez I'm not surprised you are struggling!!

Wakingup55643 · 27/02/2021 22:18

Not much practical advice from me, but I know where you're coming from. I too find myself turning into someone I'm not, and I can only be myself when I'm at work or its just me and the kids. The biggest negative of lockdown for me is that he's no longer able to go to gigs or the cinema a few times a week, he's here all the time, making constant noise, leaving the telly blaring out while I'm trying to get the kids to sleep and he's falling asleep on the sofa, or sitting picking at his feet (urgh), just being obnoxious. And then at other times, he'll spend a few minutes playing with the kids and it's like he's waiting for a certificate or a medal or something. Anyway, I know how you feel OP. I hope you get sorted as soon as you can, and start living the life you deserve x

CherryPicker1 · 27/02/2021 22:40

I hear you OP. Especially the standing around daydreaming thing. And being unsafe when crossing roads. It makes life even harder because until you finally unequivocally admit to yourself that he is indeed dangerous - you might have entrusted the DC to his care when crossing the road. It is unbelievable that some grown adults are incapable of realising young children have to be carefully watched near roads.

Keep doing everything you are doing: the yoga, meditation and so on. They will give you mental and physical strength to get through to the other side. It will also help you to not retaliate and be your worst self when he is winding you up - that is what he wants. Just walk away. You know he's enjoying it.

Of course you know when you leave you will be painted as the villain and he will be the poor abandoned husband. All you can do is ruefully shake your head and say "nobody knows what goes on behind closed doors" whenever you get the chance.

Very best of luck.

Funneth · 27/02/2021 22:45

I'm sorry that you're having such a horrible time. I don't feel that I have much advice, as I'm quite young and unmarried but it's clear that you know you need to leave this situation and I wish you all the best in doing so. Also, things are much safer now with the virus situation and becoming safer by the day, so it will get easier to plan for yourself and things can only get better for you now. From reading what you've read you seem like an understanding yet undervalued person and I hope you find the happiness you deserve.

tsmainsqueeze · 27/02/2021 23:31

Please don't give up , focus on your plan and end this relationship.
He sounds awful , i really dislike the man you are describing , its an intolerable situation .
You are going to be so happy in the new life coming your way once you are free from his shackles.
It doesn't matter what other people think of him , its your life that matters and that is negatively affected by him .
Good luck to you .

Saltedhero · 28/02/2021 12:32

Definitely deserve better sounds awful OP Flowers

Eckhart · 28/02/2021 12:46

I'm such a loving person in the right environment

This line sang out to me, OP.

Whatever anybody else thinks of him, whatever you really wish you could get him to realise, whatever he does that pisses you off, the right environment is out there waiting for you, and your only focus needs to be to get to it, being incredibly kind to yourself whilst you're doing it.

Your happiness comes first; you will never understand why he does the things he does, and you don't need to. You need to know you, not him.

Ruffllefluffle · 28/02/2021 20:30

Thank you everyone. I've felt better today and found strength. I think sharing this post has helped enormously along with the advice.

There's a long road ahead but he is now saying that he will consider moving out for a trial period. I think this will give me the space and energy I need to plan and prepare.

It's the day to day that makes things horrid. Kissing the children before we go out and throwing me a lacklustre "bye" and it's not that I'm expecting a kiss at all as I don't really want one, but the situation we're now in is rather devastating and I wish things hadn't worked out the way they have.

And then in many ways, he behaves quite nicely, but it's like housemates. He offers me regular cups of tea and I find myself quietly seething, thinking perhaps you could have offered me a proper, equal partnership instead of cups of neverending tea. Sounds silly I know.

He sleeps in the spare room with the door shut now and never hears the children when they wake in the mornings and it's like he's a teenager in his own room, out for the count, because he was awake until 2am watching netflix.

The day to day living is so grim. Before lockdown happened I was preparing to join a gym, had started swimming and feeling in control but now I just feel like I'm stuck in a long tunnel. The worries around my health and covid aren't helping. I received my first vaccine on Friday atleast.

OP posts:
Newstaronhorizon · 02/03/2021 05:14

Make sure you never cook or clean or do his laundry for him ever again. Next never consult him on anything. Do what you want. Why dont you take a sledge hammer to the shed? I can't understand your passivity while your life sails on op.

Start living your life as a single mum as he has reverted to life of a teenager.

Set the divorce process in motion and concentrate on that.

View him as you would view any selfish slob in your way. Avoid! Do not respond, go grey rock and I repeat do not consult!

Plan your days out with the DC and start to see the horizon! Do things that you enjoy and don't expect anything from him ever again!

You are the captain of your own ship and you are being far too influenced by the ick he stands for so plan your meals around him and don't include him in anything.

Today is the start of your new life, it begins when you stop having any expectations.

Go about your day to day life as if you are already divorced. You will be able to find you.rself again when you emotionally disconnect. I am really excited for you op . Good luck!

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