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Ex boyfriend and I are broken up but he wants to catch up. Advice?

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varbie89 · 24/02/2021 15:19

I’ve been dating this guy for about 8/9 months. We’re 9 years apart and I don’t notice the age difference. 34m, 25f. We get along like a house on fire, always laughing together. He tells me regularly ‘I laugh so much with you’, I know his friends, his family know about me but we haven’t been able to meet due to Covid. He used to call his parents every Sunday but since we’ve been dating, it’s become less and less. To me this is also a sign of being in a relationship with someone. We normally see each other a few times a week, sometimes less or more depending on our schedule. He invites me to all the 'big' things in his life, for example, we were going to go to his medical ball together (he would've been seen with me in front of other girls if there is anything nefarious). When we drive or hangout in different areas together, he likes to look up the prices of houses. He's also said in front of me how cute kids are and that he can't wait to do that one day. Signs to me he's testing my reaction and seeing if I want that as well.

A few months into dating, he asked to make sure that we’re not seeing other people. He isn’t into casual sex and I think exclusivity is important to him. A few months ago I was anxious about what we were - he hadn’t asked me to be his girlfriend and I thought this is something that he would’ve wanted to do. He’s traditional, wanting something serious such as marriage/family. We had a few talks about the direction of our relationship, he said there were a few things he was a bit concerned about, a few things we maybe didn’t have in common (he’s very risk-averse and overthinks everything). His concerns were things like ‘I like anime and you don’t’ ‘I like fiction books and you don’t’

He’s studying so after that conversation he said he would decide at the end of his exams, his exams have finished now. He went away recently with some of his University friends, he was unsure of whether to go (seemed like he wanted to be with me, haha) and wanted to see me before he left. I’ve felt good about everything between us post-exams as I had a feeling he was going to slowly contact me less and less and try and see me less - due to his uncertainty.

One night on the phone, I told him that I wasn’t quite sure whether continuing to have sex with him was a wise idea as we aren’t boyfriend/girlfriend. He was confused that I said it was casual. I said ‘well, we aren’t in a relationship’ and he said ‘you are my girlfriend’ I’m certain he went onto say ’I thought we’ve known this since we started dating’ so I then asked him ‘well if I was to meet a new friend of yours that I haven’t met, would you introduce me as your girlfriend? And he said yes. Unfortunately, he has to repeat his exams so I may not be able to see him for a while, I do need to clarify that he actually meant this.

I just wonder why he had this hesitancy a few times when we had the discussion a few months back though? There was even a point where I suggested we should end things because he wasn't so sure and he agreed. Maybe this is natural though and a reflection of his risk-averse attitude about things. There were just some uncertainties on his part. He said he could've been overthinking it. As a result, it sort of made me more anxious and I suggested we should end it.

We were the other day asking to see me and said it’ll be good to have a proper chat about things as we’ve both been putting things off, as so he said.

I got to his house, he said yes I have been his girlfriend all along and he doesn't know why I would think otherwise. He said that he feels it’s not going to work because of our age gap and he claims we're very different people. I personally do not see this as I feel like we share the same values, we're compatible in a lot of areas etc. He told me that he finds me beautiful, loves my sense of humour and that we get along and have fun together. I did mention that we handle conflict differently but our only arguments have been over text/call and since that's such a poor form of communication - it's hard to tell.

He started to cry (this is the most emotion I've seen from him), saying he won't be able to cook me any more dinners and our memories shared together. He then went back and forth and said he doesn't know if he's making the right decision, that he will never find someone like me, I am out of his league etc. He said maybe he's just one big idiot after all and he's made a stupid decision. I was calm in my response and he said "why don't you get angry? this is making it more difficult" in a somewhat cute way. He just kept saying that lately everything has been solidified in his brain that it's probably the most responsible decision. He asked me if I thought he was being unreasonable.

Now I feel like since we've been arguing quite a bit the past few weeks and he's been stressed, possibly his decision is skewed. I hadn't seen him in 2 or 3 weeks due to exams and I asked whether maybe we just got cold feet because of us not seeing each other. I remember months ago he said he sometimes questions us in absence.

We spent over 4 hours talking and it was like he didn't want me to leave nor did I. He then asked if we should go to dinner together. He finally walked me to my car and he couldn't stop crying.

Something in me decided to message him the other morning after I left:

Me - Morning 📷 I don’t know if messaging you is the best idea, but I hope you haven’t woken up too sad. If you ever want to catch up on neutral grounds, a coffee or lunch, don’t hesitate - I still consider you a friend. Even under these circumstances, it was nice to see you last night and I am saddened I won’t be able to have more of them with you. That’s all 📷

Him - Morning! I was in two minds as to whether to message you with the same sentiment 📷 I feel very much the same. Like you say it’s always nice seeing you, and it’s hard for me to think we won’t be sharing more moments together. I really hope you’re feeling ok today 📷 Enjoy the rest of your weekend 📷

Me - Aw, well if you’re keen to catch up in a week to come or a few months, let me know. I’m trying to not make this any harder for us but it is difficult. I didn’t react with anger because that’s genuinely not how I feel about us. I miss you, enjoy your morning eggs 📷

Him - Will do 📷 miss you too, at least you can have your eggs with olive oil today 📷

Me - These thoughts are best discussed in person but I’m not sure if that can happen and they’re weighing heavy on me. I do think we could work through the issues as I feel there are more positives than negatives. I am aware that the past few weeks have been pretty nasty for the both of us but I’ve been particularly harsh on you. If I don’t hear back from you, I will, of course, assume you do not feel the same way and will accept your decision.

Him - I thought I did explain that although the last month or so has been really difficult, it hasn’t been the main reason why I reached the decision I did. Of course I’m always really happy to talk to you about anything though, so if you still want to talk things through naturally I’m happy to do that 📷

He went onto say that he hates that he's upset me and that it's all really difficult for him but he thinks it's all for the best.

I asked that if we decide to have a chat, when is he free as he is starting a new job (again, could be a reason for the breakup) next week.

We caught up and went to the beach together. We had a good time, he just feels at the moment he thinks it’s the best decision, although he isn’t fully confident he’s doing the right thing. He said maybe in a year it’ll make more sense and we realise we’re fit for each other. He said that he told his mother we broke up and she got really angry. Something was quite odd, he told me his friend (who I know) broke up with his girlfriend but they’re back together. We then went back to his for a cup of tea and we talked a bit more. He admitted that he does get in his head a lot and could be overthinking things. Said again that he's scared he's going to lose someone amazing but feels it's the right decision right now. Again, I feel because I've been arguing with him over text lately and he feels overwhelmed. When I left, he said he wants to see me again in a week or 2.

We spoke on the phone the other day and I told him it’s really painful catching up with him and I don’t want to feel like an option to him or being left on the back burner, he said that wasn’t his intention and he would never do that as he has too much respect for me. He said it was hard catching up with me recently as well. He said he agreed to catching up because he felt like it was something I wanted. We spoke a bit more and he said that if he has a change of heart in the future, he won’t just sit on it. He’ll tell me. He told me he hopes I know how beautiful I actually am.

He ended up calling/messaging me over Christmas and NYE. I do feel like I am the one who predominately initiates contact with him first, I’ve been sending him sort of lengthy messages and he claims he’s overwhelmed by it. Recently we’ve been having an hour or so conversations when we usually would never have that as he was never one to speak on the phone. He expressed doubts about our break up as per usual and said he’s probably one big idiot after all. He told me he’s been on 2 dates with 2 girls as I asked, said he’s sort of interested but it hasn’t gone anywhere. I was quite upset and he assured me he wants to stay single for a while, he also said it’s not like he even wants a relationship with them. He said to give me some context that there were girls before we met that he was interested but it didn’t go anywhere. I was quite offended because he went on dates with girls that he basically broke up with me for. He broke up with me over an age gap but then went on dates with girls my age? Makes no sense. He said it’s all really regrettable and then told me that it's not that he wants a relationship with these people and said they’re just friends he wanted to get to know better. He said he wishes I could see his phone.

I asked if he wanted to catch up recently and he said he does but it feels like from his end he’s just trying to be friendly whereas I still like him. But he wouldn’t directly answer the question when I asked if he just sees me as a friend. I’ve decided to pull back, but it seems like he wants to catch up. So I didn’t respond when he asked about the date/time tba and then he sent me a follow up message saying “Morning, when works this week for you?” with a smiley face. He then said whenever is fine, to choose a day/evening and let him know. He then said he hopes my mother is doing okay. We're planning on having dinner out at a restaurant, not at mine or his.

What are your thoughts? He doesn't want to be just friends with me by him not answering that question, he's apparently not doing it to appease me, clearly doesn't want to just have sex as he wasn't that affectionate last time we caught up. So, what is it?

TL;DR 9 months into dating, he broke up with me over some random reasons. I feel like I’ve had to put most of the effort into seeing him after we’ve broke up. I’m left confused.

OP posts:
LemonadeBudget · 24/02/2021 15:25

Pretty sure I've read this same post on here before. Do you keep rewriting the same story, or is anything significantly changing?

EdersonsSmileyTattoo · 24/02/2021 15:29

@LemonadeBudget

Pretty sure I've read this same post on here before. Do you keep rewriting the same story, or is anything significantly changing?
You took the words right out of my mouth.....
AttilaTheMeerkat · 24/02/2021 15:32

I remember you from previous writings also.

What is there to like about this man at all, let alone love?. He has you on a string. All he has done is mess you about and your boundaries, already weak here to start with re him are still being mashed.

Cancel the dinner and block him from being able to contact you. No good to you will come of meeting him because he just wants to put the boot into you some more. Are you really that desperate for male company that you would put up with this from a man?.

You're being breadcrumbed by him. In other words you're being strung along but with the help of modern technology. Breadcrumbers often struggle with being alone so need to have someone there on "standby" (you in this instance) to boost their ego while they wait for a genuine love interest to come along.

MarkRuffaloCrumble · 24/02/2021 15:43

Sorry I gave up half way through - that is a looooong post!

Re the “girlfriend” thing, that might be an age thing. Pretty sure there were never all these stages of dating/casual dating/seeing someone/being exclusive/asking to be BF&GF. Once you started dating someone you were by default boyfriend and girlfriend and therefore exclusive.

Online dating may have changed the exclusivity part, but once you’d established that I’m not surprised he thought that made you his girlfriend without having to officially ask you. That’s madness!

Windmillwhirl · 24/02/2021 15:44

If he wanted to be with you, he would be. It's time to let this go.

MarkRuffaloCrumble · 24/02/2021 15:45

And you need to watch this re the ‘breadcrumbing’

DPotter · 24/02/2021 15:48

I also remember this from before and can only re-iterate what others have said. He's messing you about and you're wasting your time trying to figure out why. Draw a line under this whole experience by blocking him and moving on.

Cockenspiel · 24/02/2021 15:53

You’ve posted before, except this time it’s even longer Confused

DianaT1969 · 24/02/2021 16:04

Ah, OP. Again? You clearly didn't listen to any of the good advice you received on your last thread. The length and detail of this post (again regurgitating old crumbs that he threw you and the weird 'signs' that you look for to convince yourself you are in a relationship that has a future) suggests you are further down the rabbit hole. I think you need therapy.

Windmillwhirl · 24/02/2021 16:06

Love kernels. Just brilliantGrin

YoniAndGuy · 24/02/2021 16:10

Just send him a dick pic, just find a random one? He'd love it

SooMoony · 24/02/2021 16:19

He is keeping you as an option, you're not his priority. Have some self-respect and stop chasing after a man who is not available.

RedGoldAndGreene · 24/02/2021 16:26

You've posted this before and the advice is the same as last time. He's not that into you and he's keeping you open as an option. Seeing and messaging him is prolonging the drama abs agony. No Contact is the quickest and best way to get over someone and seeing /messaging him is madness. You are basically hurting yourself on purpose.

SionnachGlic · 24/02/2021 16:57

You are clinging on. He is either being 'nice' or stringing you along. He is meeting otger people & you are daydreaming about a time when he will realise you are 'The One'. You need to get on with your life without this guy. No more pestering him on the ph & instigating contact. Shut it down & regain your self esteem.

SionnachGlic · 24/02/2021 16:57

*other

DianaT1969 · 24/02/2021 17:53

Do you think you might be obsessive compulsive OP?

DelphiniumBlue · 24/02/2021 18:04

He's said it's over. |He's been clear about that. Why are you still trying to be "friends"?
Stop contacting him.

Mydarkside · 24/02/2021 18:05

I do feel like I am the one who predominately initiates contact with him first, I’ve been sending him sort of lengthy messages and he claims he’s overwhelmed by it

Might be some truth to the claims op

Littlepaws18 · 24/02/2021 18:06

What the hell?!!!! You are torturing yourself, he's told you over and over and over that he doesn't want to be with you, but softens the blow so he doesn't feel like an arse and every single time you fall for it. You initiate contact, he is lonely so responds but has zero interest in getting back with you. He is dangling a string that will snap the minute you try to start a serious conversation about getting back together.

You are worth more than this, you are worth more than being a puppet. The only person who can stop this is you. Right now, today. Get rid of his number.

If you are the love of his life, let him chase and chase and chase you. Prove over and over that he wants you before ever letting him get under your skin.

If he doesn't do this or he doesn't initiate contact you know he doesn't want it.

And I know it hurts, but it's so much easier now rather than it dragging and dragging and dragging.

wishfuldreamer · 24/02/2021 18:08

@MarkRuffaloCrumble

And you need to watch this re the ‘breadcrumbing’
More relationship problems need to be answered with Rachel Bloom
Lampan · 24/02/2021 18:12

Is this the guy who is a doctor? I’m sure I have read two very very similar threads to this before.
Here is the bottom line, which is the same one as last time: if someone wants to be with you, they will be
He’s not risk averse, he’s just not that bothered. Don’t make excuses for him. The minute you start making excuses for him you know something is not right.

SooMoony · 24/02/2021 18:18

He's pretty much told you to go away but he's kind enough not to be that blunt. Save any further confusion and delete his number. Reconnect with old friends and family, find something else to focus on. This relationship is over.

Myheadmyheart · 24/02/2021 18:23

Oh dear, he has been messing you around for a long time and you need to take the hint.

FuzzyTurquoise · 24/02/2021 18:27

I would say that he isn’t interested enough to ever be a realistic long term prospect. You’ll just end up more confused and hurt. Stop messaging him, don’t meet up and leave him in the past.

Annasgirl · 24/02/2021 18:28

@Cockenspiel

You’ve posted before, except this time it’s even longer Confused
Grin thank God it isn’t just me then.