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Have you ever been 'Wendy-d' and how have you come out of it ?

32 replies

scatteredglitter · 21/02/2021 18:22

Weirdly think this is happening to me right now with some friends.
No idea how to handle it as it feels so subversive and I feel a bit powerless. Anyone got any advice or experience on how to handle and Wendy ?

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ivegotdreadfulpmttoday · 12/04/2021 08:42

I'm not sure talking about it is a great idea as this will sometimes make you look needy and mad and plays right into the Wendy's strategy.

greenandblue432 · 12/04/2021 08:47

I agree with that drpet49 but it also depends on the level of friendship you have with the others in the group. I spoke about it with one of the mums who I suspected would understand. The others would have probably just labelled me a drama queen and they would have had more ammunition to talk behind my back, which is exactly what Wendys are after. They thrive on the drama so you have to be careful not to give in to that.

Whoateallthechocolate · 12/04/2021 09:01

It happened to me at Uni. I had no idea what was going on and found it really hard. Fortunately, it only lasted a few before the others began to realise that she was really odd and that I was intentionally being excluded from things rather than choosing not to come.
It kind of happened more recently too but that was also connected with a couple of friends moving so the dynamics in a group were shifting anyway and I wasn't sure I liked it. I've stayed in touch on a one on one basis with the couple of people I really like. Nonetheless, it has made me see them in a slightly different light. Lockdown has helped as there haven't been any/many things to exclude me from so I will see how I feel as restrictions lift and they start doing things again. I do find it hard when they do a big group thing of something I'd enjoy but exclude me as I really can't see why it would have made a difference to have me there too.

IWantMyHoney · 12/04/2021 09:15

Yes! I'm so sorry it's happened to you too.

IWantMyHoney · 12/04/2021 09:17

@Lettuceforlunch sounds very similar to the Wendy I know! 🤔

greenandblue432 · 12/04/2021 09:36

My children are older now but I remember when they were little how important it was for me to have a group of mums to socialise, not only for the little ones but also for the mums.

It was so painful to have to "break up" from that group like that, but I learned a few lessons from that experience.

When you notice in a group that there is a Wendy stirring drama and the others are following her, the best thing to do is to think carefully about the nature of those relationships and who these people really are. We get caught up sometimes in situations where we stick to people who we don't have much in common on a deeper level, but they become important in our lives because of our own vulnerable position.

When I look back, I realise how high maintenance the friendship with that Wendy would have been. I'm so relieved it was her who showed me her true colours in time and forced me to stay away.

Also, looking back with hindsight on those mums and toddlers' years, I now realise how those friendships are just the result of a very socially limiting life situation. We find ourselves at home with a baby, quite isolated and are desperate to mingle with other mums with whom we might have nothing in common except for the fact that we are just new to parenthood.

As I said, of all the mums I met during that time, only about two friendships survived the passing of time.

The interesting thing about Wendy's is the dynamics of psychological abuse that they are trying to put you through. In that sense, they are in the group up there with the gasl-lighters and other abusers. They are trying to make you feel worthless, stupid, isolated, socially incompetent. They play on your vulnerabilities at a time when you need bonding with other mums and women, and they exploit it to have a little bit of fun. They are showing there and then who they really are and you need to take notice.

It's really pathetic behaviour when you think about it, so that is why it's so important to understand it and articulate it, and take it for what it really is: just another form of abuse, but sugar-coated under the appearance of a friendly "mums group".

The funny thing is that when I first saw "my Wendy", my immediate instinct told me "she seems like real bitch". But then, as we spoke and got to know each other, she was charming, friendly and intelligent, so I thought I was so wrong to have thought those thoughts. How awful of me! In the end, that's what she turned out to be, a real bitch, like my instinct first pointed out. Always listen to your gut when it comes to people.

Zippea · 12/04/2021 11:48

I was targeted by a Wendy on the playground because of my position as governor. She wanted information and was often frustrated that I wasn’t in a position to divulge.
But she loved information and of the group of four of us, she took care to nurture everyone’s secrets and then told everyone all about it. I knew about the state of a friends marriage and I’d often felt it was abusive but she used it and told so many people it got back to the husband. She is still friends with this woman who relies on her a lot.
She took turns in targeting people in the group and I decided to take a step back. I lost the whole friendship group.
I’ve never met a nastier, spiteful person

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