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Anxiety affecting relationship.

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nomannic · 19/02/2021 07:36

i have never been an argumentative person. i back down very quickly and i never feel angry, always just sad. this is the way i have always been.

in my last relationship i was emotionally abused, continuously name-called and made to believe that i was a psychopath.

i got out of that relationship just under two years ago and semi-recently met someone new. it has been very intense since the beginning, we said ‘i love you’ very early on and we got in to a relationship early on too. we also pretty much live together now.

when things are good, they’re really good, but we have began to argue pretty much every other day. like i said, i am not an argumentative person, so i do not scream or shout, i look sad, or i cry. i understand that this can be frustrating for my partner sometimes but this is just the way that i am.

arguments mostly start because my partner makes a joke, sometimes about my personality or sometimes about my appearance or other things. this may be a joke, i know, but due to my past i am hypersensitive and i will tell him that i don’t like it when he makes these jokes. this will then escalate because he will call me something along the lines of a ‘miserable cow’, pathetic’ or similar. again, things he says that he doesn’t really mean but they are said in retaliation to me pointing out that i didn’t like what he said.

last night we had a similar argument, but this time he said that he feels that i am oppressing him and that i am manipulating him. i listened to his reasons, he says he feels like he is treading on eggshells around me because i get offended so easily and that he can’t be himself around me. this hurts me, i have never been described in this way and i believe the people who know me would be shocked to hear this. sadly i am a huge people pleaser and try my best to make everyone in my life feel so loved and so special, because they are.

i think that due to my last relationship i am hypersensitive and i have spoken to him about this. i also struggle with high-functioning anxiety, so i might look into the things he believes are just throwaway comments too deeply.

i do not want anyone to feel this way around me or because of me. has anyone ever been in a similar situation? i care for him and i want things to work out, but if i am being unknowingly manipulative then how can they ever?

i wanted to get this out, just to clear my head but any tips would also be very helpful.

thank you :)

OP posts:
DarkAtNight · 19/02/2021 09:01

Put it this way, you behave in exactly the way my exh would find very endearing. I'm more forthright and he considered me to be getting being a woman all kinds of wrong!

nomannic · 19/02/2021 09:15

@Silenceisgolden20 thank you, a lot. He is away for two weeks as of today and I will take a look after work this evening. I really appreciate your help.

OP posts:
nomannic · 19/02/2021 09:21

@DarkAtNight thank you, I understand where you are coming from. You're right, I am unhappy but not unhappy enough to end the relationship. I previously mentioned that when things are good they are very good.

I understand, I am not looking for him to see me a certain way, but just like people who get angry, unfortunately that is the way that I display my emotions. Trust me, I wish I was not this way and it is something I have been trying to work on. I do not want to appear weak.

Yeah, he did stop the fat jokes and I appreciated that. I have tried to talk to him about the other things and he either justifies them or tells me that it is a me problem. This is what I struggle with.

I also really struggle with him believing I am manipulative and that I oppress him. I would never intentionally make anyone feel this way.

Thank you for your help, I am definitely going to take a look at the Freedom project :) I am grateful for this thread, the Freedom project is not something I have heard of before.

OP posts:
nomannic · 19/02/2021 09:24

@DarkAtNight also, of course you're not a woman all kinds of wrong. I would love to be a little stronger!

OP posts:
DarkAtNight · 19/02/2021 09:30

I also really struggle with him believing I am manipulative and that I oppress him. I would never intentionally make anyone feel this way.

But you are doing. Just as he is making you feel anxious and sad. Which is exactly what people have meant when they said you are incompatible. This is a situation that is never going to get any better unless he submits to your 'manipulation and oppression' or you stop being 'too sensitive'. Given that he stopped some jokes, he doesn't sound like he's deliberately trying to upset you either.

I read this and do you know the phrase that came into my head?

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

Its all about perspective and if your perspectives arent aligned...

You're not unhappy enough to leave yet you say this is happening every other day so 50% of your relationship?

DarkAtNight · 19/02/2021 09:35

also, of course you're not a woman all kinds of wrong. I would love to be a little stronger!

Oh I know that, but thank you.

So does he because he sought therapy after we separated for the trauma of dealing with me only for the therapist to help him understand that i was a fully autonomous human and that standing up to him and not bowing to his 'authority' was not an innate flaw on my part! Grin Apparently, he also told the therapist about the time i tiled the bathroom in an attempt to emasculate him...

He actually apologised to me.

DarkAtNight · 19/02/2021 09:36

And one last thing, when it was good it was good. But the things that made me unhappy were really fundamental differences between us - we were just incompatible as partners. Sometimes having feelings or laughing at the same things or whatever just isn't enough.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 19/02/2021 09:50

@DarkAtNight

I also really struggle with him believing I am manipulative and that I oppress him. I would never intentionally make anyone feel this way.

But you are doing. Just as he is making you feel anxious and sad. Which is exactly what people have meant when they said you are incompatible. This is a situation that is never going to get any better unless he submits to your 'manipulation and oppression' or you stop being 'too sensitive'. Given that he stopped some jokes, he doesn't sound like he's deliberately trying to upset you either.

I read this and do you know the phrase that came into my head?

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

Its all about perspective and if your perspectives arent aligned...

You're not unhappy enough to leave yet you say this is happening every other day so 50% of your relationship?

This. It's not meant to be this hard OP and this relationship will become increasingly tense and then toxic over time. Every other day is hugely frequent to feel sad / have a fall out. It really is. That happening every other day for one week only would make me miserable let alone longer than that. You aren't compatible because his natural nature makes you upset and your natural nature makes him feel he needs to walk on eggshells. Sometimes neither person is 'the bad guy' and there isn't a right / wrong party - it just isn't working. This isn't working.
CupOfTeaAlonePlease · 19/02/2021 12:11

Honestly, I'm not someone who jumps in with LTB very often, but you should get out of this relationship.

I think a lot of people fall into the trap of seeking to understand the other persons motives, get caught up in questioning and policing their own feeling and reactions, want to know if they are right/reasonable/fair... it's not actually relevant here.

Are you happy? It is a good relationship? Does he make you feel good? Do you have the same values and attitudes to the relationship? ....big fat no's all around.

You don't need to convince a panel of decision makers, or understand what went wrong, or who is at fault. That's all just distracting you from the fact you're in a dud relationship.

He might be abusive (that's my guess for what it's worth), or just a twat with a teasing sense of humour, or a perfectly nice guy. It doesn't matter, he doesn't suit you so put him back on the shelf, and don't judge yourself for it.

& Don't rush into a relationship next time.

MovingForwardish · 19/02/2021 13:37

Yeah I've had this. Prickish behaviour.

I think the mistake you've made (and I mean this kindly as I've done exactly the same thing) is tell him about your past abuse. Men like this who 'love bantz' will use this as a green light to go ahead and push your boundaries. They do this because they know you've 'put up' with shit behaviour before.

I was forever being accused of being too sensitive by my ex. I can take a joke like everyone else, but there are plenty of other things to joke about other than things that will upset the person you're supposed to love. And by things, I mean something you've mentioned that you're specifically paranoid about. Just weird. If I knew my partner had hang ups, I wouldn't rib him about those, I'd find other things to take the piss out of! It's quite easy to do.

Fucking banter.

OldEvilOwl · 19/02/2021 17:52

He sounds awful. Can't believe he thinks 'jokes' about your weight or the way you dress would be funny. He needs to stop. Sounds horrible, you don't have to put up with that

Lozzerbmc · 19/02/2021 18:35

I dont think this is a good relationship at all. Making “jokes” like this is not right he is being abusive but passing it off as a joke and saying you are too sensitive. Who’s to say what level of sensitivity is right. Isnt it about how it makes you feel? I’d use the time with him to plan a future without him.

Lozzerbmc · 19/02/2021 18:35

With him away i should say - plan your future

Amiable · 19/02/2021 18:40

OP, a couple of things stood out in your posts - "he call me miserable cow or pathetic" and "he tells me it is a me-problem".

It is NOT you. A loving, caring, supportive partner would NOT say these things. Please leave him, you deserve much better than this xx

loopyapp · 19/02/2021 19:08

An important lesson I strive daily to impart on.my 4 boys .. A joke at someone's expense isnt a joke if the other person thinks it isn't funny.

If he thinks saying these things innfully knowledge it uosets you then henisnt joking with you.

EKGEMS · 19/02/2021 20:41

@Bluntness100 You got your ass handed to you the other day on a different thread for your antagonistic posts almost always anti-OP yet you are complaining about the "perpetually offended?" Pot meet kettle

BooFuckingHoo2 · 19/02/2021 21:13

I think context is key in all honesty.

If he’s saying “move your fat arse up so I can sit down” or “those trainers are awful!” I can understand how it might be “banter”.

If he’s saying “not surprising you’ve been single for a year at your size” or “god you dress like an old woman” then less so.

Regardless if you’re not happy you should end the relationship, I’m just trying to give context as to whether you’re being slightly over sensitive and maybe need to work on that for future relationships Flowers

Rebelwithverysharpclaws · 21/02/2021 16:23

This man is insulting you but denying doing so by saying - only joking. Then calls you pathetic because you did not enjoy his 'joke'. Bin him off and do the Freedom Programme - he is abusive.

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