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ree1805 · 31/01/2021 10:48

Hi was wondering does anyone leave their puppy. I pick mine up end of May. I work in a school and worry about the morning time as I come home at lunch. The puppy would be on their own for 3 hrs I have lots of toys, bones, toys to make him find treat but I got to work and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Don't really want to put him in a crate but will if I have to. Just wondered if that time length is OK. Will get a dog walk for when he can go out but till then. Thanks for reading x

OP posts:
ree1805 · 31/01/2021 21:49

@Haffiana

On the other hand I agree that Dachshunds are an anxious breed, and I do wonder at a breeder that is allowing a pup to go to an owner without experience...
Hang on can people not learn. Never buy a dog unless ur experienced. Hope u didn't have any children without experience. I'll never ask for advice on here again iv been made to feel terrible like iv done wrong already don't even have him.
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Boboparadise · 31/01/2021 21:51

@ree1805

I haven't answered as not many have been very helpful just making their own minds up did I say I can't take time off did I say I was gonna crate him. Alot of people on here have been very aggressive, some find it funny doin polls. My post was for advice and despite me saying I'll wait or do what ever I can them posts where blanked. Being told to get a cat or retire or not work helps heaps. So sorry I haven't replied, iv been nice about all comments thanked people but no iv not replied
Jeezzoo you need to work to be able to afford to keep a dog. Food..vet bills..and that's just for starters. Not everyone has the luxury of free medical care from their local Pdsa. We done as others have said on here and had some time off to settle the dog in and then we were lucky enough to all work shifts where the dog was very seldom on his own. Although when he is left all he does is sleep...he has chewed a bit of a bedside in 3years ☺️. We also did not crate him although he had been crate trained before we collected him. Wanted him to have the run of the house..safety obviously. Good luck and take your time with your process. Lots of research etc.
Veterinari · 31/01/2021 21:53

[quote LaceyBetty]@Veterinari she literally said she might leave the puppy alone for three hours, not all day, and literally asked if that was ok. Not agreeing that is it ok to leave the pup, but your are completely making stuff up. [/quote]
I guess I'm just extrapolating from the OP's reluctance to answer any direct questions. In my experience if someone isn't willing to be frank, they're usually hiding something.

Happy to be corrected but as OP isn't willing to actually tell anyone her plans for managing the dog it's tricky to advise 🤷‍♀️

Veterinari · 31/01/2021 21:55

I'll never ask for advice on here again iv been made to feel terrible like iv done wrong already don't even have him

It would help if you actually answered some questions.

Fundamentally people on here want the same as you do - a healthy happy well adjusted dog. If you aren't willing to even discuss that, how are you planning on preparing it learning?

ree1805 · 31/01/2021 21:59

What questions do u have. I will need to work but I will get time off, do uwznt the ins and outs of my life. I will have a dog walker I'd rather not crate unless he needs it or likes it. I will leave toys. I'm sure iv said all this but hey I'm hiding things. Jog on now love like I said I will nit come here for help not all but alot if comments aren't needed, rude, pathetic, and judgemental.
I will not be replying anymore
I'm. Seeking advice else where.
Those who have given advice genuine advice thank you iv taken it all on board. I will not be buying from this litter and will wait longer like someone has said its hard to find a litter for the exact right time.

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Opentooffers · 31/01/2021 22:00

Single parent with teenage son and pup originally - son begged me for a dog, always fancied one, but work long shifts, I held out for 2 years, then got dog when so 13 - so hopefully could help.
Reality is I walk dog every day I'm off work, I had my our of work younger bro walk the dog when at work for 12 hours over lunch, then son would get home at 3.45 from school, feed him tea, I'd walk at 9pm when I got home. I do 3 long shifts though, so there is benefit to having 4 days off per week. Took 2 weeks off when I got my dog as a pup. Have had dog cam so can see him when at work. Tbf it's worked, initially had crate plus a run attached as pup, I do think that I would of got him fully toilet trained quicker, if he'd had more input, pup pads in the run kinda slowed things , but we got there after 7 months. He's 4 now, copes well on own for a few hours, just settles and sleep. For pup stage, leave robust toys , need to ensure will not be a toy that could break.
Would not be without my pooch now, love him to bits, he sleeps with me Grin. I did my research, did bear in mind type of dog - small lapdog, seems easy right, but would not be a good idea as need company. I've got a nice medium sized golden doodle - love retrievers, but v big and shed lots. If out a lot, a greyhound rescue would be good - I believe they lounge around sleeping lots. My Doodle sleeps a lot at home, but is v active and let's say, friendly and excitable, when out. I love long walks, wanted something that could walk with me, that's what I got, also lots of love, loyalty. Down side is he loves, all the time, rolling in fox poo - can't have everything Wink

Veterinari · 31/01/2021 22:04

@ree1805

What questions do u have. I will need to work but I will get time off, do uwznt the ins and outs of my life. I will have a dog walker I'd rather not crate unless he needs it or likes it. I will leave toys. I'm sure iv said all this but hey I'm hiding things. Jog on now love like I said I will nit come here for help not all but alot if comments aren't needed, rude, pathetic, and judgemental. I will not be replying anymore I'm. Seeking advice else where. Those who have given advice genuine advice thank you iv taken it all on board. I will not be buying from this litter and will wait longer like someone has said its hard to find a litter for the exact right time.
They're in all of my previous posts. But since you don't want to read/answer and only want to be rude rather than engage and discuss this all seems rather pointless 🤷‍♀️
ree1805 · 31/01/2021 22:13

Iv read them. Y do I have to tell u y I want a dog. If my answer doesn't please you what then. I'm rude, only being rude as people like you think u have ur say n that it. I have a very loving home u know nothing about me, me wanting a dog did come over night, of course I want what's best for the dog as far as I'm aware yes the breeder is a good breeder but urs I'm aware of lots of scams or dogs being treated badly. I'm not engaging and discussing as lots including you make what you want up I never said I wouldn't take time.off work. It's like Chinese whispers on here.
I was being nice and thanking people never enough is it.
I'm phoning a vet for advice tommorow like I said I'm not buying from this litter as I do agree with whay has been said it isn't fair to leave him. At the moment my children are off and I'm part time but who knows what is goin to happen

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im5050 · 31/01/2021 22:19

When ever we got a new dog we always made sure that we were off work for two weeks min to settle them in
My DH is self employed so we were able to do this easily

Sometime we took longer if the dog wasn’t settling but generally two week was fine .
But we have several older dogs and a year old one and it’s massively helped the younger one being with the older ones to play and socialise with as a puppy .
Getting a small puppy and leaving them on their own initially would be hard work for you and terrifying for a tiny puppy

tinychairs · 31/01/2021 22:20

@Haffiana

On the other hand I agree that Dachshunds are an anxious breed, and I do wonder at a breeder that is allowing a pup to go to an owner without experience...
That was quite the U-turn.

There is no objective reality, and nobody was ever anxious 40 years ago, so we shouldn't be either – BUT Dachshunds are objectively an anxious breed, so we need to make sure they go to people who have experience...

Of course, it doesn't matter what that experience or knowledge is, since people take care of dogs differently all over the world and they're all just DANDY 😂

Veterinari · 31/01/2021 22:22

@ree1805

Iv read them. Y do I have to tell u y I want a dog. If my answer doesn't please you what then. I'm rude, only being rude as people like you think u have ur say n that it. I have a very loving home u know nothing about me, me wanting a dog did come over night, of course I want what's best for the dog as far as I'm aware yes the breeder is a good breeder but urs I'm aware of lots of scams or dogs being treated badly. I'm not engaging and discussing as lots including you make what you want up I never said I wouldn't take time.off work. It's like Chinese whispers on here. I was being nice and thanking people never enough is it. I'm phoning a vet for advice tommorow like I said I'm not buying from this litter as I do agree with whay has been said it isn't fair to leave him. At the moment my children are off and I'm part time but who knows what is goin to happen
The puppy would be on their own for 3 hrs I have lots of toys, bones, toys to make him find treat but I got to work and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Don't really want to put him in a crate but will if I have to.

I interpreted 'I got to work' alongside your plans to leave him for 3 hours as you being unable to take time off work. Like I said it's difficult to really give any sensible advice when you don't answer straightforward questions such as 'are you planning to take time off work'? And then get upset when people misunderstand the very limited and unclear info you've given.

GeorgiaGirl52 · 31/01/2021 22:33

Three hours is not too long to leave a puppy, but never loose in the house. Put her/him in a crate with several toys. Make sure the crate is located in an area with circulation and a view of the room. Not stuck in a closet or an unheated garage.
The moment you come home, take him/her out for a wee and give him/her food and water. Leave the crate door open so the puppy can wander in and out of it at will.
People can have dogs and work. People can have children and work. Not everyone has the luxury of being a SAHP and/or hiring a sitter/walker for every hour they are gone.

Bubbletiers · 31/01/2021 22:34

Please please don’t get a dachshund and leave it. They’re extremely needy dogs. They love being with people and they are also the loudest of dogs (yes they look small and cute) they will howl the house down. Cry and cry if left.

I own one. She couldn’t be left for more than 30 mins without being distressed.

They’re not easy cute dogs- they’re born hunters. Dachshund means badger hound in German. They run off after animals- deer & squirrels.

I doubt you’ll change your mind. But posts like this are highly annoying. I feel sorry for your dog already and you haven’t even got it.

Chunkymenrock · 31/01/2021 22:36

Op, it's pretty straightforward. It's a massive thing to take on a tiny puppy and its needs are paramount. You've done absolutely the right thing in asking, but people here are not being 'nasty' but trying to answer your question. The answer is no, leaving it that time length is not ok. Please just accept that! No need to ring the vets tomorrow either. How are they able to help? You may not like the answer but it is the truth.

Bubbletiers · 31/01/2021 22:38

Aimed at others not the op. The market for dachshunds is overrun, and other puppies of a certain desirable breed. I doubt it’s a good kennel club breeder and they probably haven’t quizzed the op on her intentions whatsoever.

Daycare is £30 plus pounds a day.

The only time I can leave my dachshund and know she is content (dog camera) is after a long day out and about or in my company - so perhaps 3-5pm and then she will become distressed.

Unfortunately demand outweighs supply especially since lockdown and dogs are being bred a lot without a care for their well-being or their puppies.

TheChip · 31/01/2021 22:39

My parents had a daschund and after slowly getting him used to being left, they could go out for a couple of hours. He would just chill out in his bed.
If they were going to be away for more than 3 hours he would stay with me.
He was the most chilled out dog you could ask for.

Haffiana · 31/01/2021 22:40

There is no objective reality, and nobody was ever anxious 40 years ago, so we shouldn't be either – BUT Dachshunds are objectively an anxious breed, so we need to make sure they go to people who have experience...

No. There have always been differences in temperament between breeds. Most people know this, I think? You could google dog breeds for a very basic start.

It is in much the same way you would ideally choose to teach a complete beginner to ride on a quiet cobb rather than an Arabian if you had the choice.

Of course, it doesn't matter what that experience or knowledge is, since people take care of dogs differently all over the world and they're all just DANDY

Yes they do. Of course they do. They have different knowledge and different experiences. I believe most people can stretch their minds to take in that concept.

Onesipmore · 31/01/2021 22:47

I think posters are genuinely trying to help. We got a puppy in June. We were all at home due to Covid and there is no way we could have left her. We needed to be around for toilet training, general training and for her to get used to us and her new home.It wouldn't have worked leaving her at a young age, even with a dog walker. You need to choose a time when you can dedicate it properly to him - so when you aren't working. Then once the puppy gets into a routine it will be easier. Its like having a baby, in terms of how much they need you around at the start. It doesn't matter how many toys, treats ec they have, often they just want human contact.

SirVixofVixHall · 31/01/2021 22:55

Agree Dachshunds are an anxious and clingy breed and not for the novice .
Lots of people leave their dogs for far too long, bored and lonely. When they come home the dog is all bouncy and happy, so they assume all is well, but all dogs hate being left. Some get used to it, some will be ok if they are with another dog, some remain miserable. The Secret Life of Dogs (i think it was this programme) covered this and the results were pretty distressing. Most of the dogs were stressed and unhappy alone, but their owners had no idea.
We know much more about dogs and their welfare than we did decades ago. When I was small dogs would be turfed out in the morning if their owner worked, left to roam the streets all day.

Parkmama · 31/01/2021 23:01

Puppies need human company and interaction, you definitely shouldn't leave them for 3 hours alone at such a young age. They will start to show signs of anxiety and distress, which will result in all sorts of undesirable behaviour. Older dogs can absolutely be left for a few hours at a time where they will rest having had a good run about before, but puppies don't do this Confused

pinkprosseco · 01/02/2021 00:48

[quote Wolfiefan]@pinkprosseco because you won’t buy a puppy from a decent breeder in a particular week. Decent breeders don’t have that many litters.[/quote]
Oh please. Now she's going to a puppy farm. No, if you watch out for kennel club breeders they announce when puppies are ready and you can time it well.

I absolutely love dogs and OP is trying her best to find out how to look after one, with a part time job and long holidays.

Sakurami · 01/02/2021 01:25

I actually think I spend too much time with my dog and he suffers from separation anxiety when I'm not there. My boyfriend can't leave his dog at all or he destroys the house. So don't think it is healthy to spend so much time with the dog. And lockdown will have a bad effect on dogs used to spending all day with their owners now.

I know lots of very happy dog whose owners work. I work from home but when im working all my dog does is sleep next to me. Don't think it would do him any harm sleeping if I worked away from home.

CatAndHisKit · 01/02/2021 01:53

You could get a dog sitter, initially for 3 hours, later reduce to two, so that puppy is alone one hour max eventually (within his frst year).
Dog sitters can be cheap, depending where yo live.
But I do realise it's not affordable to everyone.

Famousinlove · 01/02/2021 02:14

Its fine to leave a dog for 3 hours but not a puppy, you would ideally need to spend the First couple of months with the puppy. I got mine in December and the longest she's been on her own is an hour in her play pen. A dog with a small bladder will need to toilet a lot and they can't go out til they've had their jabs so a walker couldn't taken them in the beginning

Twoginsonetonic · 01/02/2021 07:38

OP, don’t take any notice of some of these replies. Lots of posters on Mumsnet lately resemble a pack of wolves trying to tear to shreds anyone they can. Because they can. It’s no longer about helping anyone. Talk to people that have dogs on appropriate threads. Good luck with the puppy. You’ll both be fine.

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