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How do I know if it's abuse

10 replies

lapaverde · 29/01/2021 21:21

I am going to try and make this as short as possible, but it's difficult because I constantly feel so confused and stressed. My DH and I have been together 8 years. For the first 6 or so, I would have said we had an ideal relationship - loving, supportive, lots of laughter, and we worked as a team through some really difficult life events.

Starting around 2, maybe 2.5 years ago, DH became more irritable. He hated where we lived, so I thought that was to blame at first. In the past 2 years, we had a baby, got new jobs, and made a major move to a place he supposedly likes better. Yet his temper got worse and worse. During this lockdown I have realized that I am very scared of him. I sort of cringe when he walks into a room because I never know what mood he'll be in. When it's a bad mood, he'll take any excuse to start an 'argument,' but it's not really an argument because all I'm usually trying to do is defend myself. He shouts and he knows I hate shouting; I had an abusive childhood and it causes me to shut down and sort of zone out. He yells at me for that too. He makes cruel comments about my upbringing - and recently compared me to my mother, which 1) is absurd and 2) he knows is the worst and most hurtful thing he could say.

I am wondering if the extenuating circumstances of lockdown and stuff in his personal life could excuse some of this? Or if he is revealing a part of his personality he kept hidden for years. When I protest his behavior, the arguments get very confusing and circuitous until I end up apologizing, and I frequently find myself doubting whether I did, in fact, provoke him or not. I actually started writing down some of what was said in arguments immediately afterward, because my stress response (mentioned above) makes it really difficult for me to remember exactly what was said and done. When I read back through my journal, it seems that I often do 'initiate' the arguments through some kind of anxious behavior that gets on his nerves (like organizing and re-organizing cabinets, which I know is annoying!). But I certainly do NOT go around trying to pick fights, and I really wish he would just be more easygoing.

I have given serious thoughts to leaving, especially because DD (18 months) is getting old enough to pick up on tension. Yet what if this is a blip on the radar caused by the once-in-a-century pandemic situation, and I split up our family over something that could be resolved? We're in couples counselling but it's not helping - if anything he is angrier after the sessions.

Thanks for reading this novel and I appreciate any advice.

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AnitaB888 · 29/01/2021 21:24

OP, please read this book and decide for yourself;

www.amazon.co.uk/Why-Does-He-That-Controlling/dp/0425191656?tag=mumsnetforu03-21

user194729573 · 29/01/2021 21:30

Freedom Programme

Sounds like abuse to me. It's particularly telling that it started noticeably/began escalating once he considered you trapped by your baby.

You shouldn't be living like this. Your daughter will already be affected by how he is altering your behaviour and harming you.

It's not normal and I think you know that it pre-dates the pandemic.

Wanderlusto · 29/01/2021 21:36

See about getting individual counciling for yourself. Couple counciling is never recommended where there is abuse. And yes, it is abuse.

Get yourself and little one free of him as soon as possible.

He is fucking with your head and this can get very, very bad op. You can literally lose your mind through an abusers gaslighting.

Lundy bankrofts book isnt necessarily what o would recommend for you but if you Google Lundy bankrofts 9 types of abuser, you will find your partner in there or as a combo.

Please get yourself free before you are too broken to go. This is not a family, it's a prison. You arent braking anything up to leave, you are braking out you and your child into freedom from tyranny, manipulation and cruelty.

Icloud54 · 29/01/2021 21:46

I don't think this has anything to do with the pandemic as you stated it started 2.5 years ago.
It does sound like abuse unfortunately and a massive give away is you walking on egg shells.
Sounds like he is gas lighting you aswel which basically makes you feel like your loosing your mind and questioning your own actions.

Icloud54 · 29/01/2021 21:47

Also just go add, counselling in never recommended for people in abusive relationships that's probably why it's not working so I would stop this straight away and start counselling on your own.

Luciferthecat666 · 29/01/2021 21:49

@lapaverde It sounds like he's gaslighting you and that is abuse. I don't think it's the pandemic causing his behaviour its the pandemic that has made you see his behaviour as it's clearly escalating. You say you're very scared of him and that's a red flag right there. When you moved OP was it somewhere near to family or friends or further away from them? If I were you OP I'd seek some advice contact Women's Aid www.womensaid.org.uk/ they can advice and give you support but if you're scared of him OP that's not somewhere you want to live especially with your baby you both deserve to live somewhere you both feel safe and secure and not walking around on egg shells in case your husband loses his temper again. I don't mean to scare you OP but if his behaviour is escalating don't stick around to find out just how far he'll go.

Dragongirl10 · 29/01/2021 21:54

yep that is abuse. Put it like this does he make you feel safe and loved?

Thought not...please make your plans to leave quietly, don't let him know until you are safely away.

Good luck op.

FFSAllTheGoodOnesArereadyTaken · 29/01/2021 21:59

Everyone is annoyed and upset and fed up with the pandemic.

In a healthy relationship you tell your partner how you're feeling and they support you, they don't take it out on you.

Yes this is abusive -
It started in pregnancy
You are scared of him
You walk on eggshells wondering what mood he is going to be in
He gaslights you til it somehow becomes your 'fault' and you end up apologising
He has a temper
He makes cruel comments

Me and my husband have arguments, we've never once said anything cruel or to hurt the other person. We can have a disagreement or be annoyed without saying something to deliberately hurt the other.

You have also had an abusive upbringing which makes it much more likely that you have an abusive relationship.

Most people with a relationship with one or two of these factors would be questioning it, he is ticking 19/20 boxes other than physically hurting you.

Please leave

Santaiscovidfree · 29/01/2021 22:03

Would you want your adult dd to be living your current life?
When I found out my adult dd was in a miserable relationship I was devastated.. She left him and is much happier...
Wish for more for both of you op...
You both deserve so much more.

RandomMess · 29/01/2021 22:18

Sounds like it started when you were pregnant. This is a common trigger for abuse to start because you are seen as being "trapped".

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