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Ghosted

13 replies

Floatyfox · 17/01/2021 12:08

To cut a really long story short, my older sister has ghosted me for nearly 2 years. We had a falling out and things were said, although everythig i said was true I have apologised, for shouting. Ever since she just refuses to talk to me, will not reply to txt messages, I txt today to wish her a happy birthday. However she sends birthday/Christmas cards although won't name me instead writes to all. I understand she didn't like some of the things I said but feel in our 50s she should be mature enough to either tell me to stop contacting her or talk to me. I want to say this to her in a txt (she won't answer the phone) but don't want to be accused of being confrontational again.

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Divorcing · 17/01/2021 21:25

If you haven’t heard from her in two years I think she’s probably given you the answer you are looking for. It all depends on the context of the argument. Perhaps she feels like she can’t forgive you

Cloudfrost · 18/01/2021 07:14

Stop harassing her, she doesn't want to talk to you

gutful · 18/01/2021 07:17

I don’t think ghosting means what you think it means.

Ghosting is more in a friend/dating situation when someone just disappears for no known reason to you. You don’t know whether they are alive or dead, they just have vanished.

You had a falling out with your sister - you know why she isn’t contacting you. You still have access to your sister to send messages. You presumably know how she is via other family members.

You’re estranged - she hasn’t ghosted you.

gutful · 18/01/2021 07:19

Also you do sound confrontational - you’re sending messages & get no reply. She hasn’t spoken to you in 2 years. She hasn’t accepted your apology.

But you want HER to contact you to tell you to stop messaging her?

That’s pretty pushy - you expect her to communicate with you to tell you she doesn’t want any communication?

No answer is the answer here.

Normalmumandwife · 18/01/2021 07:44

I'm in the same position except I'm the sister that has gone non contact. She has spent years irritating and at times ignoring me and being favoured by my parents. They deny this but then can't answer all,the examples I give them. A few years ago I reduced contact to sending a birthday and Xmas card and saying hello by phone on Xmas day. The result is that she hates it..keeps texting me during phases...demanding to know if I've blocked her on Fb etc.....it almost seems like an attention thing.

So sorry...I'm sure there is a lot more to it but I would give her a break. She doesn't want to hear from you and that's her choice.

I have found life much simpler and not being regularly upset by her but she sim

GingerbreadLiqueur · 18/01/2021 10:48

She doesn't want to speak with you. She has given you her answer.

Stop harassing her.

classiestgal · 18/01/2021 11:03

Just stop contacting her. No cards. No messages.

classiestgal · 18/01/2021 11:03

Did the things you said to your sister really need to be said?

Floatyfox · 18/01/2021 14:34

ghosting/estranged/ no longer talking sorry if I've not used the correct terminology. To answer @classiestgal I felt at the time I needed to say things as my widowed mother was in tears at least once a week over things my sister had done, this went on for months and I tried to persuade my mum to talk about it with her but she refused, so rightly or wrongly I stepped in and spoke to my sister, during the course of this conversation i bought up other things ie my husband was in intensive care for 2 weeks and I received no call or txt or offer of help with my children it was at this point she refused to talk any more. I feel some of you think I'm harassing her when all I'm trying to do is repair our relationship, I don't txt constantly just birthday and Christmas we are a very small family she is my only sibling, however, I agree that perhaps it's time to call it a day.

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GingerbreadLiqueur · 18/01/2021 14:39

So you basically launched into a character assassination?

The situation between your mum and sister was actually none of your business and it probably wasn't the best time or way in which to ask for her help with your children.

However, she doesn't sound like a particularly family oriented person so just leave her to it.

Givemeabreak88 · 18/01/2021 15:11

Yeh I agree with the others, ghosting is when someone disappears out of your life for no reason and no explanation literally nothing happened then they just disappear leaving you wondering what happened. This is not ghosting, your sister has decided to go NC with you, you know the reason. I’ve done the same to my sister after she reported me, so we don’t know what happened or what the issue was but I’m sure she has a good reason as people don’t just go NC for no reason.

artisanmarsbar · 18/01/2021 15:30

@Floatyfox - I'm really sorry to hear this! I've experienced this too, for a number of years and it's deeply deeply painful. It is like a bereavement but one with zero support and blame and shame as illustrated by the pretty blunt replies here. You literally have to grieve for your sister as this may last a lifetime but there is no acknowledgement of grief, no support. Having spent a number of years feeling it, having no one to talk to as people are even harsher in RL so therefore thinking about it. These are my thoughts:

This is hard to hear but I believe that there's always parents behind it, not always intentially but you do mention standing up for your mum. In my case my mother slagged me off to my siblings for years. They used to tell me what she had said, it was painful. And they didn't seem interested in my point of view. So different to your situation. Also in my family because there was abuse growing up, we just had to take it. There was no practice in falling out with each other and more importantly making up! If we don't practice this, then how do we get to do it as adults? So, in my case there was all this silence about the past, strong feelings never expressed, so it just sort of came my way.

I wonder what it may be like to explore more complicated feelings for your parents. Even briefly to take the focus from your sister and turn it to them.

And do some grieving. It's painful. Grieve for the time she wasn't there for you. Start grieving for now too. I think it's tough when our siblings aren't there for us. But the fact is, they don't have to be. And they're not always going to be.

It's ok to fall out. Forgive yourself for anything you said, you're willing to make up. She isn't. It's deeply sad but you can't make her engage. I'm sorry she won't.

And start thinking about your choices. How much do you want her in your life right now? Do you want a Christmas card relationship? Are there other more fulfilling relationships in your life worthy of your energy?

The grieving doesn't end for me. But I've come to an acceptence. I wish this was better supported in society but it isn't. But to say, I very much get the pain. All the best.

WinterdiscontentGlorioussummer · 18/01/2021 15:49

Perhaps it is for the best to stay away from each other. Your truth will not be the same as her's, so in both your minds you are probably equally right/wrong.

Step away, follow her lead with contact (cards). How is her relationship with your dm now?

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