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Explain love bombing and what do you think about this?

50 replies

Frog23 · 16/01/2021 07:44

13 weeks into a new romance. We knew eachother just to speak to for a year if we saw eachother.

He has had 2 long term relationships since being 20. He's now mid forties. Got adult children. His social media is proof he's only had his long term relationship. Lots of photos of his ex and her family. Dogs. A couple of holidays.

He told me he loved me after six weeks. Which I felt the same so we now say it to eachother daily.

He communicates with me alot and it doesn't feel smothering. This lockdown has been made alot easier by his phone calls or me calling him. But he's the first man I've known to enjoy this level of communication. Lots of messages too.

We have sent gifts. But they are thoughtful. I was struggling to sleep and he sent me a body cream that helps you sleep.
I sent him a mat to help with achy muscles as he often aches after work. I'd been telling him about them for ages so sent it for Christmas almost and sent him some bath stuff with it. He then asked me Thursday what perfumes I like. He has sent me a perfume arriving today. Which is lovely.

He's not had many relationships as I say. He's quite shy about sex and women. Although he's more comfortable with me the last few weeks. He lost his mum in his twenties and he has always struggled with loosing her so young. He told me this week that he used to be able to tell his mum anything and he's never met anyone else until Me he can be so open with. Which is true. We've talked alot and do seem to have clicked on a deeper connection. But he has mentioned me when talking about his mum a couple of times now.

We were walking on Wednesday and he said to me he googled love and what it actually meant. I laughed and said really. He looked embarrassed and said he had. Because he's experiencing feelings now that he's never had and feels he's missed out. He said he feels that I'm the right women to talk to him.

He talks very respectfully of his ex of 8 years. They seperated 2 years ago. He is a complete gentleman about her. He said she was an attractive women and a lovely girl. They split because she couldn't handle his depression. He said she chose to go on holidays without him with friends and she went to Australia with her mates twice in two years but didn't want a UK holiday with him. So they sat down and agreed they wanted different things. He's never been bitter or nasty about her.

But Ive noticed a couple of things.
He says things that I've already said sometimes. Like he's mirroring me? For example I stretched on the phone once and said do you ever do a stretch and it feels so nice. He said the exact same sentence to me a few weeks later. I've noticed this a few times and think I said that.

He does tell me he loves me so much and he would cringe at people saying love at first sight in the past. He said the first time he saw me he thought wow. He knows exactly what I was wearing and he said he remembers my beautiful smile and the way I was leaning down a little because I was holding my son's hand. I know this is true because I got a message from a mutual friend who said he had told everyone he was stood with how lovely I was that day.

I fancied him straight away too. So I understand what he's saying.

We seem to have become very close quite quickly. But I just want to know what people think? It does feel natural. But I've not met such a keen bloke who says such sweet things before. .

OP posts:
Wanderlusto · 16/01/2021 13:05

*IF he isn't

Cherrysoup · 16/01/2021 13:14

I think the mirroring is a bit odd. It’s something we were taught as coaches to colleagues-reflect the body language, use similar words, but that was to encourage positive feelings or de-escalate if a child was getting upset. In a relationship, it sounds a bit fake and deliberate.

Australian holidays are a bit more significant than a couple of days away in your home country, although I practically shoved my DH onto the plane for a boys’ holiday to a dream destination doing his hobby, I’d never have wanted to go!

I’m sorry, OP, I feel a little suspicious.

Wanderlusto · 16/01/2021 13:24

I think we all mirror a little subconsciously and may be more inclined to agree with the things the person we fancy says to get them to like us. However that's relatively normal. But what isn't normal is copying their sentences and firing them back at them as if they are our own words (without even as so much as a "like you said earlier"). That's psychopath territory.

Scarby9 · 16/01/2021 13:34

A friend's husband left her.

5 years later she took tentative steps to find a new partner and joined a Christian online dating firm. I think she had a couple of dates with different people then met a man whose wife had died 5 years earlier. They lived over 200 miles apart but got engaged after 4 weeks having only met twice in person during that time. I was horrified!

They have now been married 8 years and appear ideally suited. 6 children between them who were very accepting from the start, and now 7 grandchildren.

She said they just had the same thoughts about life and the same goals and just knew. So don't dismiss the idea of recognising 'the one' early in a relationship. It can happen.

GentlemanJay · 16/01/2021 14:32

Doesn't sound like love bombing. I've seen it happen to a couple of friends. One guy declared his love on the first date. They had spend up to seven hours on a single phone call beforehand. He said he wants to spend the rest of his life with her. On the first date. True!

Anyway a couple of months in and the red flags are all there. Good luck to my friend. Fortunately she's taken a step back.

elwoodblues · 16/01/2021 14:41

@AlexisCarringtonColbyDexter

he said he's never met someone he can be so open with (what about his last two long term relationships?!). So that's bs. It's really common for narcissists to say 'I've never met someone like you're ect

I agree- this is kinda classic text book love bombing.

What I'd do is observe. The way you tell sincerity is if his actions match his words most of the time. So, if he says "of course I respect that you need your space!" but then bombards you with texts asking where you are then thats not a match- he isnt being genuine. His words do NOT match his actions.

if he says "we all have exes and thats normal" but then proceeds to grill you about yours and what went wrong and gets angry and moody about the topic then he's not being genuine.

and so on....

I disagree with this - it's possible to have long term relationships with people that you still don't feel comfortable totally opening up to. It's surprising how many women give the impression that they don't want their man to truly open up to - they'd rather just have a 'manly' man and if he starts getting overly emotionally honest with her, she decides he a pussy.

OP, he seems like a decent bloke, and I wouldn't interpret it at love bombing as it sounds like it's very much a two way thing? My only concern would be about the depression comments. It doesn't sound like you've seen anything of that side of him yet? So either you're making him happy enough to keep his depression at bay, or he's good at masking it. Or you've seen it and it doesn't seem like an issue to you?

It could even just be that his previous relationship was what was making him depressed. But You're very much still in the new relationship/honeymoon period. And the depression demon could rear it's ugly head further down the road, when the relationship settles down into something long term.

If his ex was that lovely, then she wouldn't have ended an otherwise good relationship. So either she wasn't as lovely as he's making out, or his depression was/is totally intolerable.

My ex had mental health issues, and at first I was fine with it because I thought that me being a stable, supportive influence would improve things. But it ralrey works like that, and eventually I just found it totally draining and exhausting to live with.

NeonSparkle · 16/01/2021 14:43

Doesn’t sound like love bombing to me OP, although I think it’s a good idea to be wary and look for signs - but he sounds lovely!

Wanderlusto · 16/01/2021 14:49

It sounds better than it is because op is ok with some of the behaviour. Someone talking about love 6 weeks in would send me running for the hills! But I understand how it can be easy to get caught up in these things when it's all new and nice and you just arent thinking that it could be dishonesty.

But some of the stuff op recognises isn't quite right, it's making her think. And it should.

I'm sure we all know someone who knows someone who had love at first sight ect...but more commonly than not if it seems too good to be true, its because it is.

Wanderlusto · 16/01/2021 14:51

Sorry to be a debbie downer!

SecondRow · 16/01/2021 15:00

Do you think he is comparing you to his mum? Possibly putting you on a pedestal, in the Madonna role? Looking to be nurtured rather than an equal adult-to-adult relationship? Just a thought.

AlexisCarringtonColbyDexter · 16/01/2021 15:11

I disagree with this - it's possible to have long term relationships with people that you still don't feel comfortable totally opening up to. It's surprising how many women give the impression that they don't want their man to truly open up to - they'd rather just have a 'manly' man and if he starts getting overly emotionally honest with her, she decides he a pussy

If you read what I wrote, I never said it was "impossible". I said this is something people who are love bombing often say, which is true. Hence why I suggested watching and observing.

I utterly disagree that women dont want men to open up completely. In my experience as a therapist, the main issue I hear from women is "he wont open up to me!". Women are socialised to talk about feelings whereas men are not.

Alonelonelyloner · 16/01/2021 15:50

I told my DP I had developed feelings for him before we were even together or had even one meal or coffee together.
I told him I was in love with him almost instantly because I was.

I don't think I'm a narcissist or psycho but who knows......

OldWomanSaysThis · 16/01/2021 16:53

I don't know if it is love bombing or not, but I'm suspicious.

MsConstrue · 16/01/2021 17:01

I'd be suspicious too. Mainly of the comment he made about you being the first person he can be open with. (I had an ex who said similar). The mirroring (yes that's a narc thing) and telling you he loves you after 6 weeks - I'd be worried about him either being a narc or him being someone who is in love with the idea of being in love.

With mirroring, you do feel that you have a deep connection with the person, that they're your soulmate and that you have loads in common. Of course you do - they're basically being you!

I'd also not particularly choose to get with someone who has suffered from depression.

But who knows? Maybe he's just a really nice man who has finally met the right person.

namechangeforfriday · 16/01/2021 17:07

I’ve had a couple like this who seemed absolutely perfect for the first month or two - attentive, respectful, really into me, hadn’t has this connection before etc etc - well, it all came crashing down after a few weeks when they revealed their true selves, which were emotionally damaged men incapable of forming a healthy attachment so they’d talked up a very quick, intense one instead which was actually all bollocks.

Agree you should be wary - there’s a chance it is genuine but in my experience this kind of thing has never led to anything good.

Prickylikeacactus · 16/01/2021 17:09

I think that’s very early to tell someone you love them, for both of you because how do you really know someone after that short length of time. With that said what you’ve described doesn’t sound like classic love bombing but I think you’re right to keep an open mind.

Classic lovebombing is incessant contact, wanting to spend every waking moment with you, future faking (big grand plans for the future), rushing into meeting kids, plans to move in and expensive and frequent gifting.

My ex is attempting to love bomb me atm. Today’s delivery were an excessively large bunch of flowers and about a million messages and attempted FaceTimes. That’s love bombing.

BSintolerant · 16/01/2021 17:33

Mmm ... my spidey senses are tingling. If I were you I’d read this:

www.amazon.co.uk/Surrounded-Psychopaths-Being-Exploited-Others-ebook/dp/B083FFXYJ9?tag=mumsnetforu03-21

billy1966 · 16/01/2021 17:37

I think the never being able to speak to anyone like you, after 6 weeks, having been in two long term relationships is weird.

I think your gut is stirring.

Listen to it carefully.

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Tigertigertigertiger · 16/01/2021 17:51

Enjoy! He sounds lovely

SunshineandShudders · 16/01/2021 17:53

I work with trouble teens. In my world, love bombing is something we do to restore their self worth.

Jellykat · 16/01/2021 18:01

I'm 18 months out of a 12 year abusive relationship, and while yours may be totally on the level, i'd be very very wary OP.
The details you're listing are the same as i'd listed 13 years ago..
Previous long term relationships don't mean anything, lack of confidence and a tragedy experienced while young, are also absolutely perfect to show vulnerability/ sensitivity and draw you in!
The repeating what i'd said back at me started happening in year 5, seriously be wary please OP.

Mummabearofthree · 16/01/2021 20:38

To me love bombing is when it’s very early into a relationship and someone is overbearing with the ‘I love you’ etc. It always raises a question to me about the person and whether they can be trusted and how many other partners they’ve done this too. It doesn’t feel genuine.

He sounds nice and thoughtful, perhaps he said the ‘I love you’ quite early.

Mummabearofthree · 16/01/2021 20:39

Although I’ll admit some of his behaviour is questionable, I have a feeling that once your head over heels he’ll change completely. Be wary OP

GreenlandTheMovie · 16/01/2021 20:42

Who on earth has to google what love is? And worst still, tells someone else that they googled it?

Very disrespectful to his ex of 8 years and the mother of his children that he feels he has missed out til now and only now feels able to confide in someone he has been dating for 3 months.

Your gut instinct is telling you something, very early on. That in itself is unusual.

category12 · 16/01/2021 20:46

Like some of the pp's some alarm bells are going off for me.

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