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Feeling very low- don't know what to do or where to go.

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PoodleDoodleCaboodle · 12/01/2021 05:38

I've posted on here before about my nasty in laws when I found out I was first pregnant. I've since gone on to have another child and now have two children under two. Life is very stressful and chaotic. My previously wonderful (or was he?) husband has really let me down and is more of a hinderance than help. It doesn't help that he's recently been diagnosed with severe depression and anxiety. I have PND which is crippling- I put on an act every morning to be the happy mum I think my children need to see but I'm crumbling and broken on the inside. My husband can't deal with life atm and makes it all about himself and ignores my cries for help. My sadness and loneliness have over the last couple of months turned into rage and anger. I could seriously hurt myself (but won't for the sake of the children). My GP and HV are both aware of how low I’m feeling but there aren’t any services they can refer me to because of lockdown or lack of services existing. I’ve even referred myself to our local safeguarding team (my husbands moods are unpredictable and he can occasionally threaten physical violence) but I was told we don’t meet their criteria for involvement. As a result, I’ve maxed out my credit card on private therapy and can’t afford to have anymore sessions.

I’m posting tonight (I've struggled to sleep) because I feel so sad and alone. My husband constantly gaslights and makes me feel everything is my fault when i know that’s not true. He starts fights in front of the children and scares them. I try to hold my own (wrong I know) but we’re damaging the children. I can see it in their scared little faces when we start arguing. We’ve currently started couples counselling and I felt we had a big breakthrough a few sessions in but it doesn’t last. The therapist is very practical and has made it clear she's all about teaching us techniques to try with one another instead of tackling deep rooted issues. I'm not sure if this is typical for couples counselling therapists.

More info:

I’m still BF littlest child so off work. Husband lost his job in the first lockdown and his field completely dried up. I’ve had to sell some of my jewellery to make ends meet. This money is running out and the next step is applying for UC which I’ve never had to do before. I’m resentful and bitter about this because my husband refused to save and be sensible when he was working despite me asking him too. The little money we had in our savings account, he used to buy himself a car (I don't/can't drive).

We both come from traumatic family backgrounds and I feel that's what contributed to how he’s (and I'm) feeling. He felt when we had children, his parents would become magical people and reprise their relationship. This hasn’t happened. He/we are ostracised by his family and aren’t invited to anything/informed of anything. My MIL saw my eldest child when they were a 3 week old and again at six weeks. I once walked in on a zoom call husband had with his mother and I found the toddler performing like a monkey because my husband and MIL had run out of things to say so my husband was making the toddler fill the (long) gaps. I soon put a stop to this. I'm now blamed for distancing the children from his family which is true but I don't want them being used as a 'crutch' for my husband to maintain ties with his family.

My husband won’t hear a word said against his family, despite agreeing previously how toxic they were. He now turns it on me and tells me how I come from a ‘chavvy’ family who don’t care about me- they don’t but that’s not the point.

If I try sharing my feelings/pain with my husband, he’ll have a bigger and ‘better’ story of personal woe to overtake mine so I’ve stopped talking. When we do talk, if he doesn’t like what I’m saying, things will quickly escalate and I’ll be told I’m being awkward, harsh, etc. I’m not proud to admit that I’ll shout at this point in the hope that something registers and he’ll ‘wake up’. I'm now labelled as a bully.

I’m a shadow of my former self and at my lowest ebb. I have some mum friends but their lives are so far removed from mine (amazing families, no financial worries, etc.) that I don’t feel like I can talk to them. I tried once with one of the mums who I felt closest to but she quickly changed the subject and distanced herself from me afterwards! I have no other friends- therapy has made me realise I’m a people pleaser and overly giving so I’ve distanced myself from most people I’ve known in the past.

I can’t go back to work atm as I’m still EBF the baby and need to reregister with my work regulatory body but can’t do that because my passport has expired (as a form of proof of ID) and I can’t afford to get that renewed or pay the reregistration fees because we’re poor! Life is truly shit!!!

Called several women’s/DV charities- no one answered so I left a message for one of the big ones, asking for a callback. No news yet. I’ve looked into leaving the husband but benefit entitlement as a single parent- surprised by how (relatively) generous it is BUT it won’t pay the mortgage which is my biggest worry. In order to get some relief towards that, I’d have to convert our existing ‘capital AND interest’ mortgage to a ‘capital ONLY’ one and then apply for a government loan that’ll pay this. However, as joint owner, I’d have to get the husband’s permission to do this (he’d never agree) AND I wouldn’t be entitled to this loan until I’ve been on benefits for at least 39 weeks- that’s potentially 9 months of mortgage arrears that I can’t afford to happen. This is the only home me and the children have known and I don’t want it to be taken away. I’m between a rock and a hard place.

Sorry this is so long. I don’t know why I’m posting....are we heading for a divorce (it feels like it to me) or can we come back from this? Would appreciate a few kind words or just a handhold I suppose.

OP posts:
PoodleDoodleCaboodle · 12/01/2021 17:23

Bump?

OP posts:
Champagne16378 · 12/01/2021 17:44

I'm so sorry you are feeling like this. It sounds like life is really on top of you and with two young children to look after as well, you probably aren't getting any time for yourself. Please know that there are people out there who do care about you - you and your family deserve to be happy.

I suppose there is no quick answer to your problems - there is a lot going on - but I would first say to check that you're getting all the support/medication you can from your GP. Have you talked with your Health Visitor too? They should have a telephone service still running. You need support with your PND. I would say that focusing on getting help with your PND, looking after your children and looking after yourself are your priorities. Don't think about divorce or anything until this awful pandemic has passed and things are a bit easier all round. This is survival mode now. Do anything you can to keep you and your children healthy and happy. There are services out there - charities too - who can help. I know you may not be religious, but there are some wonderful social initiatives at local churches - they don't try to 'convert' you, but do a lot to help members of the community (I say this as someone who doesn't go to church but know people who do and have helped run these services). Could you call a couple of churches in your local area to see if this is something they offer?

Please also try again to talk to a friend. I'm sorry the one you spoke do didn't support you - that's not to say another friend wouldn't though. Keep talking, keep asking for help, and see this as a longer term 'project' to get yourself to a happier place. You can always come back on Mumsnet for more support - we are here and sending you love ❤️

category12 · 12/01/2021 17:56

Try the Rights Of Women to get legal advice about the house and financials.

Have you factored in what he would have to pay as child support? A bit dangerous to rely on it if he's likely to play silly buggers, but worth thinking about.

I think you'll have to contemplate letting go of the house. I know you don't want to, but you already know your H won't agree to what you need to keep it, so to exit the relationship you will probably need to let it go. I know it's hard, you're very attached and it's more disruption than you want and feel like you'll be letting the dc down, but moving somewhere you can afford and can make your own could be a positive for you all as well.

Better to be able to provide an emotionally safe but smaller home than to stick out an abusive marriage for the sake of bricks and mortar.

MixMatch · 12/01/2021 18:00

So sorry OP, sounds incredibly tough. Can't imagine what you're going through with all this happening. There is light at the end of the tunnel however. The only thing constant in lifenis change, and things will start to look up.in time.

On finances, start claiming UC now. That's what it's there for, and there will be delays anyway before you get the money so start the process right now.

Reach out to friends and acquaintances for support, even if it's just to chat to offload. The samaritans are also very good for this too and have lines open 24/7

MixMatch · 12/01/2021 18:01

*in life is change

MissSmith80 · 12/01/2021 18:02

OP, I think that you are a superhero for all that you are doing. I will come back and see if I can offer anything more constructive but wanted to offer a huge hug (I know it's very non-mumsnet like) while I'm just trying to get myself together after a day at the grindstone x

Mynextname · 12/01/2021 18:32

I don't really have anything constructive to add either. Sometimes life is just so rubbish.

I can relate to some of your post though and I really do empathise with you about how low you are feeling about it all. When you are in the middle of it all it consumes everything. Try and spend some time outdoors or doing things that remind you of just how big the world is. Sometimes helping others with their problems can be a useful distraction too.

Having two small children, particularly when breastfeeding can seem never ending. Although you won't miss the turmoil you are in right now you really will miss them being this small. So try and focus on the little things that make you smile that they do. You will cherish those moments forever.

I wouldn't suggest making any rash decisions about your relationship right now. You are in a very stressful situation and even the strongest of relationships would suffer. Give it a little time, not forever, maybe just until they are settled in preschool school. Then see when you are back on your feet how you feel.

P.S I always use to think owning a home was everything. It really is so insignificant. There are plenty of people living miserably in private homes and plenty of people happy renting.

dane8 · 12/01/2021 18:59

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