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Small lies? Overreacting or red flags?

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SeekingWiseWomen2021 · 06/01/2021 22:00

Hello, this may seem trivial and I know there are more important things in the world but I would really appreciate some advice.

Two years ago I met a man (from a different culture/country to me/Greece). He had such a kind face and disposition. He seemed so good and kind (and he is) and asked that we have total honesty and do everything we can to protect our relationship (i.e. no messaging/meeting up with others/exes etc). I found this refreshing and have been true to this. It was long distance at first (year 1) then he got a job closer to be with me (he moved to a job in England, I live in Ireland) but didn't manage to get one here. I moved there in March 2020 and we have been together since (apart from a month when he returned home). He is 35 and I am 37.

There is much pressure from his parents and family for me to move there (which would involve learning a new difficult language and giving up my profession and financial independence here for. a life in nature with a big family and hopes to start our own while farming their land). Pros and cons. I was open to this until a few things shook my confidence.

I discovered his instagam a/c in Dec 2019 and asked that he show me it. it was full of women naked/half naked and many looked like young teens. It jarred with my impression of him and I was upset. He said he would delete it. Months later I got an impulse to check and it was still there. I discussed this and he deleted it with me (later saying it won't delete).

he is an IT guy and online all the time. He deletes all tracks of usage. I couldn't sleep last night and was up doing work and on a whim I checked to see if he had tiktok and saw an a/c. I asked him this am and he said he doesn't have one. it was a hack to his email and bot generated. Discussing this he again denied having Instagram. I asked to see his phone (first time in whole relationship) and saw he had a new Instagram (he explained this away saying it was just connected to the new Facebook changeover and he can't delete it. it had no searches until I pressed some buttons and found to clicks he had forgotten to delete. One led to a young age 20 porn type a/c and only fans.

he says he docent look at porn but today admits he does.

I looked at his messages for the first time and there were lots to girls back in his home country but 3 stood out. One to an ex with regular contact and selfies back and forth (she fancies me he said). Two others to girls he only stared messaging after we got together. he knows them from work. its a foreign language but winky faces and 'are you around?' messages.

he said he got to know one from his cigarette breaks at work (while we were together). I didn't know he smoked! he said he told me and he gave them up for me. my mum died of lung cancer and cigarettes are always a deal breaker for me. I had no idea he smoked/quit.

I know boundaries/privacy/social media is a private thing that people are entitled to. looking at his phone (he gave it willingly) didn't feel good. What is my problem here are the lies to portray a different version of himself and they are fine to him it seems if I don't find out. I did trust him. I don't believe he would sleep with someone else. he is a good person. But I feel scared now and like my respect for him is less.

Sorry for the long message. Perspective on this from other women would be gold. Thank you

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RealisticSketch · 06/01/2021 23:55

Greek relationship culture is heavily macho and often based around the female partner being highly respected and taken care of while other playmate's are an expected sideline. In his mind, if he is in step with many men from Greece, he can be a decent husband even while enjoying diversions. I have a friend who is a feisty lady who speaks 3 languages fluently, is a professional and had two DC with her Greek husband. As soon as she came within the family sphere, living a couple of doors from his mother, and also became a mother her status became that of the tolerant wife turning a blind eye and his mother encouraged her to get in line as she and every generation before her had done - this was the key to domestic bliss. Husbands who have diversions don't make onerous demands on their wives and are more content.
Of course this is a generalisation but it was my friends experience and once she was deeply involved she discovered no-one except her was disappointed or surprised. If this is your cultural context you can be clear of eye and conscience in your promises of decency and still be crossing the line in your eyes.

Notanotherfreak · 06/01/2021 23:55

And no, using Instagram to perve over teens is NOT normal behaviour for guys. Just creepy misogynistic ones.

ProfessorSillyStuff · 06/01/2021 23:57

He sounds really boring. You'd never have any intimacy with a man like that.

SeekingWiseWomen2021 · 06/01/2021 23:58

@notanotherfreak I'm sorry that happened to you. That sounds so painful. It's difficult isn't it? It's a head melt. I do love him and the security I feel with him in other ways. But this is too much and today was an earthquake under us. Grateful to have asked here. Wish we had more connectedness to womens wisdom and sharing in real life.

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billy1966 · 07/01/2021 00:01

@thewreckofthehesperus

I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him. I certainly wouldnt move countries or become financially dependent on someone who I didnt trust 100%
This.

Are you really so naive OP, at 37?

He's utter slime.

sickofit39 · 07/01/2021 00:06

@HerMammy

I don't believe he would sleep with someone else. he is a good person Don’t be naive, he’s not a good person, he’s lied multiple times to you and he sounds a sleaze; young teen porn, really? he’s not nice in any way.
Absolutely this
Hailtomyteeth · 07/01/2021 00:10

Could you just run? Far away? He sounds like a nightmare.

RealisticSketch · 07/01/2021 00:25

It is definitely a bail as fast as you can situation unless you're a put up and shut up kind of lady

HeyDW96 · 07/01/2021 01:23

Ofcourse he comes across as nice and caring etc etc etc. But he's clearly not, if he's lied to you about other things it will be second nature for him to portray himself as the perfect man. He isn't going to come clean and admit to being a sleaze bag is he? I'd run for the hills personally, he'll lie about much worse things than this come time I'm sure.

Grimsknee · 07/01/2021 01:35

Just to agree with other posters - he definitely lies and he sounds really sleazy.
Don't move countries and give up your independence for him.

goody2shooz · 07/01/2021 07:38

RUN!! These are massive lies, and repeated. And then more lies. Imagine you go off to Greece, live on a farm, struggle with the language, and then have a child or two. You’re stuck, because you cannot leave with the child. This has disaster written all over it. He’s a LIAR pure and simple - leave him for your own sake.

AlwaysCheddar · 07/01/2021 07:41

Wake up! He’s a lying sleazebag. There no security there as you don’t trust him as he lies. And looking at 16 year old girls, gross. Get rid. Also men don’t use Instagram to look at girls - not the good men at least. He’s a perve.

NotaCoolMum · 07/01/2021 08:09

He’s not a “good person” op! He’s a “good liar”!!

Haggertyjane · 07/01/2021 09:54

No trust, no love. That's it

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