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Give me some perspective..

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eyesopen1 · 31/12/2020 10:14

I want some help trying to understand this situation..

For context I have been with DH for 10 years, married 5. 2 DC 3 DSC. We generally have a good marriage as in day to day things are fine. But for ages I've been finding myself wondering about life without him. This situation happened this morning and as I think about it this is starting to happen more and more and I'm getting fed up, I don't doubt I have my faults but I don't think his reactions are justified.

So a fiend was collecting something from me this morning, I left it on the side in the hallway. It was a fairly valuable item. She knocked on the door and I went to get it but it had gone. I looked around but couldn't find it. I went up DH in bed and asked if he'd seen it. He said he'd moved it incase anyone broke in. I asked where it was but he couldn't remember, I left and said just don't touch things.

He came stomping down, found the item and I gave it to my friend, she left. I went into the living room and he started shouting, swearing and name calling. I said do not speak to me like that in front of my children (they're 2 and 3m). He said they don't understand I said I don't care do not shout and swear at me in front of them and I walked out the room.

He went upstairs got changed came down made himself a coffee in the meantime I returned to the children in the lounge. He came back and said sorry for speaking to you like that but you spoke to me like a child telling me not to touch things so now you need to apologise to me. I said whatever I said or however you took it does not justify how you spoke to me in front of the children. He said if I hadn't of woken him making demands then he wouldn't of got angry. I said if you hadn't of moved the item you know my friend was coming to collect this morning then I wouldn't of had to wake you.

I KNOW that what he said is unacceptable and is no way a justified reaction to my comment and the fact it was in front of the kids makes it 10 times worse. But was I also out of order for saying don't touch things? Whenever he gets angry it's always a reaction to something I've done and I do reflect and see what I've done but refuse to accept it justifies the response.

Another example was unpacking the shopping a few weeks back, he dropped the eggs and smashed them on the floor, I said well done snappily, he retaliated with screaming and shouting. He again apologised but then demanded one from me.

Should I still apologise for being snappy when he reacts to it in that way. If he didn't react the way he did I'd probably apologise for what I've said but even if I'm in the wrong in the first place, I refuse point blank to apologise for snapping when he reacts off the scale like that because I feel he looses all moral high ground when he screams and shouts at me. He thinks we're as bad as each other, but I don't. I don't think being snappy and screaming and shouting are on par at all. If he's snappy I generally just ignore it and let it go.

Just looking for some perspective, I have some thinking to do. It isn't the first time he spoken to me like that in front of our child. It genuinely is just small moments every now and again but I don't ever want my child to see that. He should never have to hear it. And I think twice is too many times.

OP posts:
Packitin · 31/12/2020 12:55

Sounds like there is a LOT of underlying tension here and the snappy, OTT reactions from your DH are symptomatic of that. Theres something deeper.

Frustration and snappy behaviour often comes from something he is resenting or unhappy about but cant verbalize it so the anger comes out in other ways....snarky comments, swearing and shouting over silly little every day things.

Can you get to the root of it? Any idea what might be frustrating him? From your post, I can sense you are a little snappy at him too.

"Just dont touch things"
"Well done" (when he dropped the eggs)

Sarcasm like that winds people up... it does me anyway. Likely to result in a sarcastic, snappy response too.

You both need to look at the way you talk to each other. Defensive, snappy and sarcastic... shouldn't be like that. Shouting in front of the kids, again no...but fuck, were human, it happens. More damaging is them seeing this shit long term. For it to become the norm for them....the odd shouting match and even a swear word isn't going to scar them for life. Growing up in a household where mum and dad rub each other up the wrong way all the time will scar them.

Do you love him? Like him? Wanna stay married?

eyesopen1 · 31/12/2020 13:42

I am mega snappy I know that. I'm just struggling and he doesn't help me in anyway. I have a reflux baby who never sleeps, a toddler to contend with too, we're moving house which was what he wanted, not me, I'm doing a degree at uni, I care for my grandad aswell. I never get a minute, he helps me do things but he can't do anything by himself he has to have constant instructions. If he makes baby a bottle every time he asks how many scoops, how much hot water, how much cold. Sterilising bottles he'll ask how long for and I get irritated because I tell him every time. He does all the washing when he's home but it's constant questions, can I wash this with this or what setting. I've told him it doesn't help me in the slightest when I have to micromanage what he's doing. It's easier to do it myself.
His answer to all my problems is to drop out of uni. But I don't want to, I just want to be left to do some uni work without constant interruptions asking what to do with this and how to do that.
I've talked to till I'm blue in the face but he doesn't get it at all. I do the entire mental load, for the kids, home and his business. It's just too much.
He says I treat him like a child, I do. I know I do. But he acts like one. He can't see that. He works hard, I get it but so do I. He'll say things like when I've had a really bad night; he'll say I'll do the night tomorrow night, then it comes to it and he either comes in constantly asking me questions or he just backtracks all together and says he's too tired.
I just don't know how to get him to see things from my perspective. I just can't be arsed anymore. Cant be bothered to argue or talk about it.

OP posts:
ILoveShula · 31/12/2020 13:52

I left and said just don't touch things.
He's a grown man. Having said that, it's just the sort of thing I would say in that context.

I said well done snappily
I'd take that as a joke if someone said it to me, but I'm not him.

But for ages I've been finding myself wondering about life without him. This.

and he started shouting, swearing and name calling.
That's not acceptable, and you say it is happening more often.

There is a reason he split up from his XW.

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