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Covid rules have revealed all the cracks in dm relationship

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artisanmarsbar · 27/12/2020 00:31

My childhood was abusive. My mother is an alcoholic, who had a temper. Life revolved around her and her moods. If she was happy, then great, otherwise - miserable. I've spent a lot of time in therapy as an adult, just to even be able to speak, I found speaking hard when I left home as I was criticised and screamed at so much. Since having my ds many years later, I've made an effort to be civil to her. I honestly wasn't sure as I've always been scared of her, really properly scared. Publicly and with other family members she is all sweetness. She always makes out like it's me who is difficult or bad tempered. In other areas of my life I'm also scapegoated. She blames me for our lack of relationship, it's because I've 'changed'. She hasn't screamed at me for years so I thought that my ds could get to know her. That was the advice at the time, she would have bombarded me with presents and cards for him had I not. There was cultural pressure, people just don't get abuse. How would I have explained it to ds? She has always been really intense with him. She treats him now still as a toddler even though he is a lot older, she treats him like a god and says it's normal. I think she sees him as her redemption. She doesn't stop feeding him sweet things and sending him money, she never listens if I ask her not to do something or makes out I'm difficult. She is generous with presents. I know usual grandparent stuff but she treats me like a ghost, if I speak, she actually turns her head.

She has seen him only once during covid and she is putting immense pressure on me. Me and her are both in tier 4, she's in her 70s. But she is speaking to him on phone over christmas like I'm stopping her seeing him. She's intenselly saying how much she is desperate to see him. She says all her friends' children are breaking the rules, so why can't I. Covid is basically breaking through the cracks in our relationship. She's starting to be intense and unhinged again. And it's scaring me.

I'm sorry as this is such a different experience to others out there who have been in pain not seeing their family this year but I haven't missed seeing her in person. Last Christmas, I was ill for 3 days on return from staying with her. She intently talks at me, as an adult. As in permently, she doesn't stop for breath, for hours!

And for years, I've been so generous with her and made sure they form a bond and I've tolerated all she's thrown my way. But now, its a NO. The thing is he has a relationship with her. But now she's getting intense. But I don't want to see her. Obviously, I'll have to but I've just reached this point. I'm done with being ignored, this year's given me time to think, I'm done. She has spent years saying awful things about me to other family members, so I'm aware she could do the same with ds.
Any advice? How do others cope? Thanks.

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SittingAround1 · 27/12/2020 00:35

You really don't have to see her if you don't want to. You can go no contact.
As for your DS she doesn't sound like she'll be a positive influence on his life so he won't be missing out.

BritInAus · 27/12/2020 00:47

I’m so sorry for what you’ve been through. Stand your ground. Flowers

soopedup · 27/12/2020 01:03

Just don’t engage and speak to your therapist about this

AgentJohnson · 27/12/2020 04:23

Your son clearly isn’t her redemption, he’s just another opportunity to spread her particular brand manipulative poison. Don’t sacrifice you and your son’s wellbeing on the ‘she’s family’ altar.

Your mother isn’t owed a relationship with you or your son.

Mintjulia · 27/12/2020 04:39

You don't have to see her. Block her calls and don't indulge her emotional blackmail.

Your child, your rules.

polkadotpenguin · 27/12/2020 04:40

Be very very careful. Narcissists often try and 'recruit' the children of their victims. Her spoiling of your son and painting you as the villain who keeps them apart made me think of this immediately.
You are an adult now, you are safe. She can't actually do anything to you other than via your son - she knows this, hence her obsession.
You have a responsibility to your son to guard him from the same manipulation you experienced as a child. COVID restrictions are a blessing in disguise as they allow you to stick to boundaries. How old is your son? Depending on his age I would be considering telling him something of the truth about your mother to help him understand. I feel for you but I think you need to stay strong and hold your boundaries. I would have as low contact a relationship with her as possible!

artisanmarsbar · 27/12/2020 11:53

Thanks for the responses. In RL my friends don't tend to say this, I get told to make the effort. Also, she isn't screaming now, she acts like she's the life and soul of the party now. She thinks the reason no one wants contact in the family is because she has loved too much.

Ds does really like her. He really lacks family so he's obv keen to have family. My exe's parents are dead. My siblings are pro-dm and aren't interested in ds.

I regret now keeping contact. I was 50/50 split when pregnant. It was actually my at the time therapist who was pro contact. And I kept thinking, if she can say that after the stories I've told her, then surely she knows something I don't. Now, I just think that was her stance, it's not mine. Keeping in contact has affected my health. And feels constantly not genuine.

@polkadotpenguin - thanks. She is a definition of narc. And worse. She's utterly switched off to her behaviour. It's hard to feel safe, I feel like she has power to destroy the relationship I have with my son. If she starts telling him I lie when he's a teenager. But I need to keep telling myself she doesn't have that power anymore.
Thank you.

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Lozzerbmc · 27/12/2020 12:04

I agree with others just because she’s your mum doesnt mean she is a good mum or a good granny. I think covid can be a positive reason to keep away from her and you need to protect your DS. You can tell him in an age appropriate way a bit about what she is like. She hasnt been a good mum to you but your DS is lucky he has a good one!

middleager · 27/12/2020 12:18

She sounds manipulative, even using Covid rules as an excuse.

Dont let her use this situation to emotionally blackmail you both. Stand your ground, refer to the tier rules if need be.

Good luck

Breastfeedingworries · 27/12/2020 15:26

I could of write this post op. I’m currently hiding in my room. (Moved back home) I’m trapped here. Going to flee soon with my daughter. My mum drinks all day a lot of the time. Then she turns horrible, calls me names. I’ve contacted the laddy I’m speaking g with at the council. To try and get out sooner, she’s taken the car keys so I’m trapped. :(

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