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He finally ended things but still wants to catch up?

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driventodistractionk · 04/12/2020 12:41

I’ve been dating this guy for about 8/9 months. We’re 9 years apart and I don’t notice the age difference. We get along like a house on fire, always laughing together. He tells me regularly ‘I laugh so much with you’, I know his friends, his family know about me but we haven’t been able to meet due to Covid. He used to call his parents every Sunday but since we’ve been dating, it’s become less and less. To me this is also a sign of being in a relationship with someone. We normally see each other a few times a week, sometimes less or more depending on our schedule. He invites me to all the 'big' things in his life, for example, we were going to go to his medical ball together (he would've been seen with me in front of other girls if there is anything nefarious). When we drive or hangout in different areas together, he likes to look up the prices of houses. He's also said in front of me how cute kids are and that he can't wait to do that one day. Signs to me he's testing my reaction and seeing if I want that as well.
A few months into dating, he asked to make sure that we’re not seeing other people. He isn’t into casual sex and I think exclusivity is important to him. A few months ago I was anxious about what we were - he hadn’t asked me to be his girlfriend and I thought this is something that he would’ve wanted to do. He’s traditional, wanting something serious such as marriage/family. We had a few talks about the direction of our relationship, he said there were a few things he was a bit concerned about, a few things we maybe didn’t have in common (he’s very risk-averse and overthinks everything). His concerns were things like ‘I like anime and you don’t’ ‘I like fiction books and you don’t’
He’s studying so after that conversation he said he would decide at the end of his exams, his exams have finished now. He went away recently with some of his University friends, he was unsure of whether to go (seemed like he wanted to be with me, haha) and wanted to see me before he left. I’ve felt good about everything between us post-exams as I had a feeling he was going to slowly contact me less and less and try and see me less - due to his uncertainty.
One night on the phone, I told him that I wasn’t quite sure whether continuing to have sex with him was a wise idea as we aren’t boyfriend/girlfriend. He was confused that I said it was casual. I said ‘well, we aren’t in a relationship’ and he said ‘you are my girlfriend’ I’m certain he went onto say ’I thought we’ve known this since we started dating’ so I then asked him ‘well if I was to meet a new friend of yours that I haven’t met, would you introduce me as your girlfriend? And he said yes. Unfortunately, he has to repeat his exams so I may not be able to see him for a while, I do need to clarify that he actually meant this.
I just wonder why he had this hesitancy a few times when we had the discussion a few months back though? There was even a point where I suggested we should end things because he wasn't so sure and he agreed. Maybe this is natural though and a reflection of his risk-averse attitude about things. There were just some uncertainties on his part. He said he could've been overthinking it. As a result, it sort of made me more anxious and I suggested we should end it.
We were the other day asking to see me and said it’ll be good to have a proper chat about things as we’ve both been putting things off, as so he said.
I got to his house, he said yes I have been his girlfriend all along and he doesn't know why I would think otherwise. He said that he feels it’s not going to work because of our age gap and he claims we're very different people. I personally do not see this as I feel like we share the same values, we're compatible in a lot of areas etc. He told me that he finds me beautiful, loves my sense of humour and that we get along and have fun together. I did mention that we handle conflict differently but our only arguments have been over text/call and since that's such a poor form of communication - it's hard to tell.
He started to cry (this is the most emotion I've seen from him), saying he won't be able to cook me any more dinners and our memories shared together. He then went back and forth and said he doesn't know if he's making the right decision, that he will never find someone like me, I am out of his league etc. He said maybe he's just one big idiot after all and he's made a stupid decision. I was calm in my response and he said "why don't you get angry? this is making it more difficult" in a somewhat cute way. He just kept saying that lately everything has been solidified in his brain that it's probably the most responsible decision. He asked me if I thought he was being unreasonable.
Now I feel like since we've been arguing quite a bit the past few weeks and he's been stressed, possibly his decision is skewed. I hadn't seen him in 2 or 3 weeks due to exams and I asked whether maybe we just got cold feet because of us not seeing each other. I remember months ago he said he sometimes questions us in absence.
We spent over 4 hours talking and it was like he didn't want me to leave nor did I. He then asked if we should go to dinner together. He finally walked me to my car and he couldn't stop crying.
Something in me decided to message him the other morning after I left:
Me - Morning 😊 I don’t know if messaging you is the best idea, but I hope you haven’t woken up too sad. If you ever want to catch up on neutral grounds, a coffee or lunch, don’t hesitate - I still consider you a friend. Even under these circumstances, it was nice to see you last night and I am saddened I won’t be able to have more of them with you. That’s all ❤️
Him - Morning! I was in two minds as to whether to message you with the same sentiment 😅 I feel very much the same. Like you say it’s always nice seeing you, and it’s hard for me to think we won’t be sharing more moments together. I really hope you’re feeling ok today ❤️ Enjoy the rest of your weekend 😊
Me - Aw, well if you’re keen to catch up in a week to come or a few months, let me know. I’m trying to not make this any harder for us but it is difficult. I didn’t react with anger because that’s genuinely not how I feel about us. I miss you, enjoy your morning eggs ❤️
Him - Will do ❤️ miss you too, at least you can have your eggs with olive oil today 😅
Me - These thoughts are best discussed in person but I’m not sure if that can happen and they’re weighing heavy on me. I do think we could work through the issues as I feel there are more positives than negatives. I am aware that the past few weeks have been pretty nasty for the both of us but I’ve been particularly harsh on you. If I don’t hear back from you, I will, of course, assume you do not feel the same way and will accept your decision.
Him - I thought I did explain that although the last month or so has been really difficult, it hasn’t been the main reason why I reached the decision I did. Of course I’m always really happy to talk to you about anything though, so if you still want to talk things through naturally I’m happy to do that 😊

He went onto say that he hates that he's upset me and that it's all really difficult for him but he thinks it's all for the best.

I asked that if we decide to have a chat, when is he free as he is starting a new job (again, could be a reason for the breakup) next week.

We caught up and went to the beach together. We had a good time, he just feels at the moment he thinks it’s the best decision, although he isn’t fully confident he’s doing the right thing. He said maybe in a year it’ll make more sense and we realise we’re fit for each other. He said that he told his mother we broke up and she got really angry. Something was quite odd, he told me his friend (who I know) broke up with his girlfriend but they’re back together. We then went back to his for a cup of tea and we talked a bit more. When I left, he said he wants to see me again in a week or 2.

What are your thoughts? I know that many of you have read my previous posts and I appreciate all your advice.

TL;DR 8 months into dating, he finally broke the news to me that we should end what we have based on our age gap and some differences. I have a feeling it could also be because he’s starting his new job as a doctor (admittedly stressful)

OP posts:
anonnnnni · 04/12/2020 14:04

Op, you’re worth more than this flip floppy, selfish, head messing fuck boy/man. Stop trying to analyse him and reach out and assuage your feelings. Stop believing his tears and apparent shows of emotion. And STOP contacting him if you want to find a relationship that meets all your needs and makes you feel happy and less likely to pour your dilemmas on these forums. Because this guy is not good for you and it’s evident from your previous posts that he’s been leading you down the garden path and you keep trying to explain away his behaviour. What are you hoping you can achieve from this? I mean this really kindly. I just sense that you aren’t taking his behaviour at face value.

Happy and new relationships don’t need this level of analysis and introspection, they really don’t! Whether he’s a doctor or an astronaut, a man who really wants to be with you will make that happen. He won’t flip flop and break up with you. He won’t determine when he wants to see you and ensure it’s only on his terms.

I hope you know this. Do you?

littlebirdieblue · 04/12/2020 14:07

I've read your other posts. Relationships should not be this hard. You are not compatible and you are just prolongs go the break up by arranging get togethers. Move on

driventodistractionk · 04/12/2020 14:07

@anonnnnni thank you, my dear. I do know this.. I think.

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Dontforgetyourbrolly · 04/12/2020 14:14

I remember your other posts
I think you are at different stages in your lives
Analysing texts is never a good thing and comes across as something a teenager would do .
He will drive you mad if you dont break contact

Myotherusernamewastakenagain · 04/12/2020 14:27

You've been given advice about this guy on the numerous threads you've created. Why haven't you taken any of it on board?

user1481840227 · 04/12/2020 14:29

I remember your last thread too.
Honestly this is just ridiculous, concerned that you don't like anime and that means he was unsure about the relationship Confused.

If he wanted to be with you then he would be with you properly.

And all the stuff about saying he thought you had been his girlfriend since you were dating and making out that it was just some kind of misunderstand and you'd got it wrong...I mean come on Confused

And those messages you put in your OP, it might hurt to hear this but there's nothing special about them. Many people have those bittersweet chats at the end of relationships and they don't mean anything really. In your case I would imagine he is so relieved and happy that you haven't directed any anger towards him cos clearly he wouldn't be able to handle it...but that means all he'll learn from this experience is that it's fine to act like that!

Maybe he's not a bad person...but he's going into a stressful job now and clearly he's not going to deal with stress in his personal life too well if he thinks that not liking anime is such an important dealbreaker Hmm

It's time to move on OP. Staying friends won't do you any good. If you go no contact and get over him then perhaps a genuine friendship might be possible in future but not now. Also if he genuinely realises that he can't live without you he will chase you and fight for you properly....but if you keep him in your life now as a friend I can almost guarantee that this wishy washy behaviour will continue....and maybe right now it feels like you don't want to give up the wishy washy behaviour because at least that's something....but in the long term it's just going to hurt a hell of a lot more!

driventodistractionk · 04/12/2020 14:41

@user1481840227

Your advice has really made me think, there's no point me agreeing to meet up with him.

He did clarify the other day with me that the anime was not a big thing, just something trivial. I told him it isn't part of the normative population to even like or know about anime.

Thank you.

OP posts:
driventodistractionk · 04/12/2020 14:49

@Myotherusernamewastakenagain even though I didn't express that I agreed or disagreed with the previous advice, it would be disenfranchising to not acknowledge that it was practically spot on. I guess I was blind-sighted to some degree.

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EvenMoreFuriousVexation · 04/12/2020 14:50

"He started to cry"
Ugh, instant fanny dryer right there.

He doesn't love you OP. But he loves sex with you and doesn't want you to have it with anyone else.

Rip the plaster off, set yourself free to meet someone more closely aligned with your life stage. This man-boy is a waste of your finite time and energy.

JustAnotherUserinParadise · 04/12/2020 15:06

Eugh not again! I remember your previous posts!
Everyone has told you to get rid multiple times, now you finally have, so see it through! Stop messaging him!

Requinblanc · 04/12/2020 15:14

I stopped reading after a few paragraphs....frankly if you need to write a thesis and over-analyse what is happening to that extent, time to accept this is not working and you need to move on. No relationship should be that hard...

yousawthewholeofthemoon · 04/12/2020 15:21

I think we've all given you loads of advice on previous threads and you've ignored it each time, I'm assuming this time will be no different.

sofiaaaaaa · 04/12/2020 15:35

I can’t believe you’re 25.

This whole thing is so juvenile. I had more “serious relationships” back when I was in year 9 to be frank.

He doesn’t want you to be his partner. He just likes the convenient sex. He seems like he doesn’t know what he wants from life and is a bit socially awkward, meanwhile you’re lapping it up in the hopes that you can change him and win him over. It’s all really sad. This isn’t a romantic fairy tale love story, it’s just weird.

warmandtoasty2day · 04/12/2020 15:37

He was crying about this ?? for goodness sake, let him go and see it as a good thing. You deserve so much better, relationships should never be hard work like this.

mena51 · 04/12/2020 16:02

OP you frequently post about this guy, I've noticed that you overanalyse and question every thing. I think you need to work on yourself to be honest. Stop getting fixated on trivial things and look at the bigger picture. Stop looking for what you think are signs of love and commitment and just think about it. Ultimately he is unsure about your relationship and ended it with you, I'm not sure what else you need to know. Let it go for your own sake?

HouseHunter2021 · 04/12/2020 17:02

I can’t believe you’re still posting about this prick.

He’s not into you and you should tell him to fuck off and stop trying to string you along.

And while you’re at it, grow up a bit yourself. Sorry to be harsh but I’ve read your previous threads and people on here have gave you great advice and yet here you are, posting about him again. I didn’t even read your whole post as it just seems like immature waffle, you genuinely sound like a wee school girl. My 12 year stepdaughter is more mature than this.

Santaisironingwrappingpaper · 04/12/2020 17:05

Imo he doesn't get to hear your news!! I remember your last posts. He has had you dangling for so long. Cut HIM loose op.
Block and delete tonight... Every message.
Rip that plaster off.

Suzi888 · 04/12/2020 17:08

He sounds flaky and he’s never going to commit. Every single decision will be drawn out like war and peace.

ChristmasFluff · 04/12/2020 22:11

It's not about being a doctor. 100 per cent. I've known many at all stages and have seen them move heaven and earth for women when they want to.

He's just not that into you (sorry) and he doesn't deserve another moment of your time because of that. Nothing to do with him being a good or bad person, just you need to move on and No Contact is the only way for you to do that.

Sunflower1970 · 04/12/2020 23:10

He is just not into you. Sorry. How many essays do you need to write on this situation? You must have a huge amount of time on your hands

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