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What should I do

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E3OP · 30/11/2020 12:07

So I have recently had a baby with my partner who I have been with for around 4 years, my baby is now 2 months old. We had a lot of arguments before I gave birth where my partner was verbally and emotionally abusive which continued after the baby was born, especially in his 2 weeks of paternity leave.

Whilst I was 5 months pregnant I was told I shouldn’t be friends with the only two friends I have because they could cause him trouble and that if I wanted my friends in my life then he wouldn’t be with me. My friends were not allowed to my baby shower because he didn’t want his mum to be meeting them incase they spoke about him or caused him trouble (my partner use to teach me and his family do not know this). He constantly told me how it’s disgusting that I was going to invite my friends over his mum to the baby shower. On the day of the baby shower whilst I was 8 months pregnant (which was held at my parents 1hr and a half from where we live) he messed around when I got to my parents telling me I should drive back to get him because he was going to come with me (when he didn’t tell me he was coming and could have driven himself). I told him that the baby shower ended at 5 O'clock and that I would leave to come home around 7 O’Clock. When I let him know that I was about to leave at 8 O’clock because the baby shower over ran he told me don’t bother because I would be getting back at half 9 and that he booked a meal for us (he didn’t tell me that was the plan or even suggest what time that I should come home for if that was the case that he booked a meal - which I don’t think he did). We spent the night arguing so I didn’t leave my parents and only at 11 O’clock did he stop arguing with me and told me that I should come back and that his issue was that I didn’t ring him to let him know how the baby shower went after his mum had met my family for the first time. This was one of the incidents we had where my family noticed that he was being unreasonable where I had to drive back at 11pm 1hr and a half 8 months pregnant.

Closer to my due date possibly about 5 days before, I was told on a few occasions that he was not going to come to the birth and that if he is at work when I call him when I’m going in to labour he won’t come home. He told me he wants a paternity test when the baby is born and that he did not want to be at the birth. Due to COVID where he could not attend antenatal appointments he kept making this a real issue between us and that it wasn’t good enough me being in there because I’m thick and need to ask why the midwife said what she did, was told the midwife didn’t know what she was doing because she couldn’t get an accurate measurement of my tummy twice. The names that I was called whilst pregnant include a slag, scum, tramp, c**t, nasty, ugly and a minger, told that I have no morals, that I have been dragged up and that I have no class. This is normally the typical wording that has been used in any argument that we have had.

Once my baby was born, my partner was there and it was quite a traumatic birth. I had an episiotomy which was very painful for me to sit and I wasn’t able to walk properly for about 10 days. My partner invited my mum and dad to stay for the weekend as he could see that I needed support - I thought that this was a nice gesture until this was used against me.

I was breastfeeding and my baby was feeding every 2 hours. My baby had a bit of a tongue tie so it was difficult adapting to breastfeeding and having such a lack of sleep as well as the pain that I was in from birth. On the day that the midwife came round the day after I came home, my partner went out with his dad (as we live with his dad) to get me some bits that I needed. He also went out on day 3 and 4 after the baby was born with his dad which he said was to give me some time with my mum. We had barely anytime together as a family where he kept going out for hours and one time all day.

On day 4 I had an appointment to see the midwife which he took me to. We had an argument in the car because my mum was apparently taking over because she done the washing and washed the floor (when it was filthy because of two dogs). He told and that my mum should have asked him to wash the floor and told for that reason that my mum is domineering and he can’t bond with his son because my mum and dad were there. He invited them to stay, I didn’t as it isn’t my house and I knew he would be like that. I was also told how he didn’t know if he was the baby’s dad because my baby has blonde hair and how no one in his family is blonde and that the baby didn’t look like him. I was called all of the names as previously mentioned and told me that he didn’t want to be with me and that I’m no good for him. When we got back home I told my mum that was still over and sister that had come to visit a little what had been said whilst he went out with his dad again. I said I didn’t want to be with him so they got most of my stuff and the babies stuff and put it into the car. I told him I can’t do it no more as how he is treating me was really bad he talked me round into staying. My mum had left and I had to put all the stuff back with no help from him, then I was told how it was stealing by my mum and sister as they took things that he bought for the baby and that they were scum to get involved and should have left. That night he drunk a whole bottle of gin and continued to argue with me all night.

A few days after that my mum, dad, and sister wanted to bring my nephew round to see the baby, I said no to them because he was telling me he couldn’t bond with the baby because of my family and that they were getting more time with the baby than he was. He phoned my dad and said that they should come down and that was ok, I said why are you doing that when your really slagging me off for them being here and was saying that my mum and sister shouldn’t be coming round because they took stuff from his house when they were invited round and how he hasn’t ever done anything to them so they shouldn’t get involved. He stayed upstairs pretty much the whole time they were round and came down about twenty minutes before they were leaving. I was told not to let my nephew that is 5 hold the baby, the baby was only placed on his lap with a pillow around him I was there and it was completely fine yet when he heard that he was held by my nephew he asked why I had gone against him and that I should have listened to him.

He was barely doing anything to engage with the baby or being supportive and helpful in the first few weeks of the babies life. If I asked him to do something for the baby or asked if he wanted to do something he said that he is not being dominated and that he will do things when he wants to and not on my say so. Because my mum had set up the steriliser for when I needed it he said that we should have done it together and that if I don’t show him how to work it he would chuck the steriliser out yet every time I tried to show him he would show no interest.

When the baby was 6 weeks old I booked a free photo shoot that I was offered and on the day of this booking my partner was saying how he didn’t want to go, he couldn’t see the point and couldn’t be bothered after I had got myself and the baby ready. I asked that he definitely didn’t want to go as I will cancel it and he said he didn’t so I cancelled it. After I cancelled it he called me a prick for cancelling it and then re booked it in his name. I was upset and I said that I didn’t want to be with him as I didn’t understand why he started haven’t a go at me for cancelling it or why he was calling me nasty for cancelling. He started getting ready and was getting ready to leave with the baby without any bottles, when I tried to go with him because he was taking the baby he was saying that I couldn’t go with him and that I’m not allowed to. He was getting in the car and wouldn’t let me get in so I got out and got in my own car and was going to drive there myself. When I got in my car he went back into the house with the baby, and phoned me. I was really upset and said I just want to come and get the baby and leave and he told me that he was going to lock the door and that I’m not taking the baby because I don’t own him and that I didn’t pay for the car seat so he would drop the baby to me once he goes back to work in a weeks time. This really upset me and he walked to my car and said he was sorry and that he re booked the photos and he never realised how upset I was because I never show him any emotion. We ended up going to this photo shoot after all the arguing and pretending like everything was normal it was horrible because it wasn’t.

Whilst staying at my parents for a few days to visit my parents and his mum I told him how he was making me feel that I didn’t want to be with him, a lot more things went on before the above mentioned. So there has also been other times where I said I didn’t want to be with him and he said sorry where nothing changed.

Since talking properly about our relationship he has told me that he just really struggled with adapting to being a dad and that he was sorry for taking his personal issues out on me that have happened to him previously. He has also said how he never meant any of the things he said about me or my family and how he does love me.

Things have changed now but I don’t feel that I’m in love with him. He has since mentioned about getting engaged and the thought just makes me feel nothing but numb. I don’t trust that things would really change for the good when it’s been a certain way for so long. He is really positive to move things on and tells me how he loves me and I mean everything to him but if I did surely he would not have treated me that way so soon after having a baby. When he talks about getting engaged and shows me the ring he has picked out he says nothing that bad has happened for us to not be moving forward and that I have done things which he has forgiven me for.

I want to end this relationship but I worry that I am at fault for not sticking with a relationship just because there have been problems and especially because we have a newborn. Can I fall back in love with someone that I feel nothing for at the moment or am I silly for even considering ending things when all relationships have arguments and problems. I also think how can he be on the page of getting engaged where I am thinking of ending this relationship or is it just used to try and smooth things over?

Sorry if this is all over the place but writing it down is difficult and I know it can come across as one sided because there is always two sides.

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Bunnymumy · 30/11/2020 12:18

I feel I skim read that a bit op as there was a lot but - why would you want to fall back in live with an abusive man? Let alone raise your child with one!

Please get yourself out of there. You mentioned parents, could you go to them? Would they be supportive? It might also be worth phoning womens aid for advice (make sure he is out at the time).

He is a horrible bully op. Please get yourself free of him asap and never look back. Dont attempt to raise a child around a man that calls its mother names and treats her like shit.

Bunnymumy · 30/11/2020 12:19

Oh and what's the house situation? (Incase it would be better to get him out rather than leave yourself).

Opentooffers · 30/11/2020 12:25

I'm sorry, he's very abusive and does not have your interests at heart. What you describe is a list of abusive, controlling behaviour and the sooner you are out of this the better. Can you move back with your mum&dad ? I bet they will be relieved. You already have put up with way more than you should have, so yet it's entirely reasonable to end this. In fact it's a marvel you haven't already. Big hugs, you'll get through this with family and friend support, you don't need him.

E3OP · 30/11/2020 12:30

Yes my family are very supportive and my mum just constantly worries about me, and is very supportive for me to move back home. This is his house where his dad lives with him. I never lived here before the baby was born as I never wanted to, but was told by him that he wouldn’t be buying a house with me if I wasn’t able to commit to living with him at the moment.

A lot of people say the same as you have both have, I guess I just really need to realise this. When I have told him he is controlling he kind of dismisses it or makes me explain why I think that and I feel like I’m manipulated into thinking actually he isn’t controlling.

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joybrightnice · 30/11/2020 12:34

Deep down you know this is not a healthy relationship and your partner is a controlling arsehole. I'd move back into your parents where you do have the support and the safe environment you and your baby need.

E3OP · 30/11/2020 12:39

To be told that he couldn’t bond with his son because of me when he just didn’t bother, I was also told that I was obsessed with being a mum and possessive and it’s selfish to breastfeed when at times where there were struggles surely he could have been supporting me. In the two weeks he was off he made me food twice, yet makes out to all of my family like he has my best interests by over compensating and saying things to them that he then slags me off for. Which I just find so manipulative and dangerous where everyone thought he was this lovely caring person to me.

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E3OP · 30/11/2020 12:41

I get so much more support at my parents where my mum done two night feeds for me in the early weeks where he has only ever done one to date. I pretty much do everything on my own so I don’t worry about coping with out him. I just have massive guilt for ending things because he gets upset and says he loves me and that it’s just words he never meant anything.

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Santaisironingwrappingpaper · 30/11/2020 12:44

He is abusive.. Move back with your dps. Let him convince a judge he should have access.
Claim Cms.
Your baby needs a safe upbringing.. Imo living with him won't enable that to happen.

ohfourfoxache · 30/11/2020 12:51

Run like fuck, then run some more

Bunnymumy · 30/11/2020 12:52

He isn't wired like a normal person op. Telling him he is abusive is like telling a lion it eats meat. Or telling it to stop chewing in your leg. Never gonna happen.

Save yourself. He wont change because he doesnt have the capacity to love and empathise like a normal human being. He is empty.

You will never be able to change yourself or you actions enough to make him suddenly become a decent human. Because it isn't about you. He is the one that is lacking.

CodenameVillanelle · 30/11/2020 12:53

Pick up your baby and run the fuck away from him.
Are you very young? Did he commit an offence by starting a relationship with you?

JaniceSopranoJr · 30/11/2020 12:54

He's an abusive piece of shit.

Pack up your belongings and move back to your mum permanently. Don't tell him when you're leaving or he'll try to stop you.

E3OP · 30/11/2020 12:55

No offence committed no but I am 22 and there is a 14 year age gap.

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E3OP · 30/11/2020 12:56

When I have left he just turns up at my parents trying to make amends that or hundreds of texts saying sorry and phone calls that is just relentless.

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Bunnymumy · 30/11/2020 12:57

Yeh he's hunted out someone young and 'vulnerable' (in his eyes). As predators often do.

You're lucky in the respect that you have supportive parents op. You arent alone. Reach out for help. Do whatever it takes to get free of him.

CodenameVillanelle · 30/11/2020 12:58

Block his number and if he turns up at your parents then tell him to leave, if he doesn't leave then call the police
Time to play hardball with him

Feelinglost006 · 30/11/2020 12:59

He’s an abusive cunt
Vile
And what’s the part that he used to teach you. What’s the age gap etc.

E3OP · 30/11/2020 12:59

Thanks I just worry becoming a single parent as such and having to co parent when he hasn’t done much with the baby for me to feel safe that he would know what he is doing. He has not even so as washed up his bottles before

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Bunnymumy · 30/11/2020 13:00

@E3OP

When I have left he just turns up at my parents trying to make amends that or hundreds of texts saying sorry and phone calls that is just relentless.
It's called 'narcissistic hoovering'. Melanie tonia Evan's on youtube does a video on 9 types of narcissistic hoovering (when they try to get you back after you leave). She misses out the one where they use family/friends to get to you. But other than that it's really good.
E3OP · 30/11/2020 13:00

He use to teach me at secondary school and there is 14 year age gap

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Santaisironingwrappingpaper · 30/11/2020 13:09

Given his attitude towards you /disinterest in your dc why would you consider coparenting?

Bunnymumy · 30/11/2020 13:10

So if you've been with him 4 years...you basically got with him straight outa school. This gets worse and worse...

Either way op. He is a nasty piece of work. Get yourself out of there. Get tough, as pp said.

E3OP · 30/11/2020 13:17

Yeah I do realise this thank you for all of your messages as it just makes me realise how even more what I already know I guess! I just can’t deal with the fact that I am breaking up a family I just find it difficult to cause that but then I think I and my family know exactly why so it doesn’t matter what he or his family think or say

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Bunnymumy · 30/11/2020 13:28

You're not breaking up a family though.

Family respects and cares for eachother, they show kindness and compassion for one another. He isnt your family. He is your jailer.

Your family are the people who love you. He only loves himself.

E3OP · 30/11/2020 13:30

Yeah I see that, for so long I’ve been told I emotionally abuse him because I put the relationship on the line and say I don’t want to be with him so he doesn’t feel secure in the relationship. When he has never realised his own actions and if he has which I doubt very much I think it’s too late now

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