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Friends with an ex...

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GardenSwing · 23/11/2020 05:17

About 12 months ago, I started dating someone. It was someone I quite fancied and had done for a while who was my friend's friend.

For one reason or another, it didn't work out. He was quite emotionally repressed and I never knew where I stood with him and doubted that he fancied me at all so, although we got on ok, it killed any feelings I had for him and I ended it. We also had some quite significant incompatibilites that were masked by lockdown that meant we wouldn't have worked out long term anyway. He suggested that he wanted to remain friends because we have friends in common. i was sceptical because I've never had a desire to remain friends with an ex but i was also keen for it not to cause awkwardness in our social group, so agreed.

My expectation was that it wouldn't amount to anything but that at least it would mean there were no hard feelings and we could be friendly when we saw each other again.

That's not quite what happened.

We have actually become quite good friends! He messaged me about something in the news a few days after we split up, I replied and it's continued. It was a couple of months ago now and we've met up several times for walks in the park/drinks (on average once a week/occasionally fortnight) and we went out for a last drink together the night before lockdown#2 hit. We message each other a couple of times a week maybe and he phones me probably once a week or thereabouts. He always phones me, messages are initiated by both of us fairly equally but he sends me far more in the way of photos than I send him (I don't send any).

There's no flirting, no lingering eye contact, no reminiscing. He sends me photos of things he is doing/nice scenery - just the sort of thing I might have with any of my friends. But, tbh, there was little of any of that when we were together so it's actually quite nice! If I'm honest, we get on better now than we did when we were together partly because I no longer care if he is 'interested' and assume he spends time with me because he wants to and enjoys my company rather than because he feels obliged to or wants sex so I'm more relaxed. I think he is more relaxed with me because I am his friend and not his girlfriend. I think we are just better as friends.

Our mutual friends think it's 'nice but a bit odd' as he's not remained friends with any other exes either, are pleased we can still get on but were surprised we are in contact as much as we are.

One of my friends thinks he might assume i have feelings for him still and is 'playing' with me a bit (which isn't going to work as I don't) maybe trying to make me jealous that he is having a nice time without me? Or for company during lockdown (he has other friends he's meeting up with outside). I see this as a bit cynical.

One of my friends is convinced he still has feelings for me and is going to ask me to try again at some point. In the early days, if he had done, I would have been tempted but still said no. Now, I wouldn't be tempted and don't want him to.

Tbh, it's like the dating part never happened for me!

I'm only really asking because last night he sent me a few photos of him (outside!) with friends including ones of him that were really nice - entertaining but in which he did look very attractive (and probably knew it!)

How would you read it all?

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GardenSwing · 23/11/2020 05:18

Sorry for the essay! I just wanted to give a full picture so that people had some context so that responses were relevant Smile

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Rainydayss · 23/11/2020 05:44

I have a very similar situation. We split up last year after 4 months together. He was a lovely person but a lot of differences which would be deal-breakers long term meant that I wouldn't get back into a relationship with him.
We said we would stay friends and we did, still meeting for a cuppa or he helped me with a few jobs in the garden. However he made it clear he always wanted to get back together. I said I just wanted friends and not in a place for a relationship., Never led him on. Fast forward to now, I have met a lovely man and been together 3 months. I know if my friend finds out he'll be upset. I've stopped messaging and seeing him but he still gets in contact, I'm trying to naturally phase him out but it's not working and fear he'll try to jeopardize my new relationship.
What I'm trying to say is, a friendship is great if you're 100% sure he wants nothing more. However if you meet someone else how will be react?

GardenSwing · 23/11/2020 06:15

Thanks for your reply!

I very much doubt that he wants to get back together because I didn't ever really have a sense that he wanted to be with me anyway! I always felt that he realised he was passing time with me and was sticking with it for fear of unpleasantness/awkwardness given we have shared friends.

I initiated the break up conversation but he had also anticipated it and kind of got there before I did in making the final 'push'. He didn't seem particularly upset or bothered by it. But he wouldnt let on if he had been either. He certainly wouldn't tell me he still wanted to be with me because he said nothing of that nature when we were together - which was part of the problem. Our relationship looked like an awkward friendship with sex! But I dont get any sense that he has feelings for me any more (or less) than he did when we were together!

I've joked with my friends that, if they read our messages, they wouldn't be able to pinpoint when we split up because the nature, tone and content of the messages didn't change!

How would he react if I told him I'd met someone? Stoically I imagine. He'd wish me well. I'm not sure whether he would consider our friendship inappropriate but I certainly wouldnt expect him to show any emotion regardless of how he felt.

In some way, I still don't really know how he feels but his behaviour is more in line with a good friendship now than it was in line with a relationship before.

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GardenSwing · 23/11/2020 06:17

He was a lovely person but a lot of differences which would be deal-breakers long term meant that I wouldn't get back into a relationship with him.

Yes, same here really.

We are compatible as friends but not for a relationship at all.

I actually really like him but I don't have romantic/sexual feelings for him at all anymore.

It just be hard having dated someone for 3 months without him knowing though and I can understand why, in your situation, you'd want to cool the friendship.

I just don't know what I would do!

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Rainydayss · 23/11/2020 06:58

Thankfully lockdown helped as he can't now call in for a drink and chat. I'm hoping he meets someone else, he deserves happiness just like the rest of us.
Sounds like your situation could work fine if it suits you both. The friends with an ex thing is always a tricky one.

user1493413286 · 23/11/2020 07:10

Were you in love with him? I’ve found that people I’ve dated/“seen” for a few weeks/months and it hasn’t worked out I’ve been able to stay friends with if I’d never really fallen for them.
My DH is an ex who I stayed friends with but we always both knew there was a bit more there than just friendship whereas I stayed friends with someone else who was just genuinely a friend after dating didn’t work out. It’s a hard one as you don’t really know the other persons true feelings. I have found though that when you’re friends with an ex that friendship often naturally dies down a bit when either of you meet someone new as often new partners don’t really like an ex being around.

GardenSwing · 23/11/2020 07:27

No, I didn't fall in love with him. I could have done and definitely had feelings but his ambivalence put a stop to that.

I've no idea how he felt at all tbh.

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HmmSureJan · 23/11/2020 08:03

I think he still likes you.

ChickOnAStick · 23/11/2020 08:42

Sounds nice OP! Enjoy the friendship.

StarbucksQueen · 23/11/2020 13:01

I am friends with my ex, in fact I still live in his house - with my own bedroom. I have a house purchase going through, so should be in my own place just after xmas.
We were a couple for just under a year. I ended it when I found him texting another woman, but for some reason I thought we'd be ok as friends.
Initially I still had feelings for him, but that has definitely now gone.. I'm not looking to see anyone else - I was a happy singleton for 14yrs before we met, and he is a widow.
Before lockdown we would eat out, cinema, etc a few times a month and have also been on holiday together in separate rooms.
I hope that when i do move out that this will continue.
One of my friends thinks it's an odd set up, but everyone is different, and if it works for you right now then that's great, but if it dwindles if/when one of you meets someone else, then that's ok too.

JurassicParkAha · 23/11/2020 13:12

I would see it as he enjoys your company and likes the friendship, but never felt enough for it to be a full on relationship. That won't change. I've had ex-es tell me they love hanging out with me and may even still fancy me, but just don't feel strongly enough for a relationship- and I've felt like that with some ex-es too.

But he might still need the occasional validation that you find him attractive, hence sending photos where he looks good. Not in a horrible or manipulative way, but in a 'it's nice to be considered attractive still by someone'.

The real test will be how you feel if he meets someone else, gets into a relationship where he's all the things he wasn't with you, and cools it with you. If you'll be ok with it then carry on the friendship. If it will hurt/sting, then cool the friendship.

GardenSwing · 23/11/2020 17:33

Oh I'd absolutely fine if he met someone else. I think if have found it hard if there had been someone else immediately bit a couple of months down the line when our friendship feels 'established', I wouldn't have a problem with it.

Not bothered if he wants to seek occasional validation either. He is an attractive man and I'd happily tell him so. But, no, wouldnt want to go back there.

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GardenSwing · 01/12/2020 03:24

I posted this last Monday.

Since I posted, we've been in touch - all very nice and friendly - we spoke on the phone for an hour and a half the other evening.

We were obviously bubbled when we were together. Neither of us has formed a bubble with anyone else so, technically, we are still in one.

Anyway, long story short, I'm going round to his for the evening, making mulled wine and then staying over - in the spare room over Christmas.

Have I misread all of this? My friend thinks he is going to say/do something. I think it's just two friends who are comfortable with each other having a nice evening.

She thinks he sounded 'keen'. I didn't but now I'm starting to wonder. Ice got a bit of a habit of getting myself into 'pickles' becaise I haven't read the signs properly.

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RonaldMcDonald · 01/12/2020 03:28

One of my best friends is my ex
He is uncle to my kids now - we have know each other 30 yrs
It feels incredibly odd we ever dated but I’m so glad we met

WandaDavy · 01/12/2020 04:06

I'd try not to overthink it. You can just be friends, if down the line he makes a move, well, then deal with it then. Enjoy it for what it is now, friendship. As long as you're both happy. Mulled wine sounds lovely!

GardenSwing · 01/12/2020 04:39

Great, thanks.

I think spending the evenng together and staying over will be the true litmus test of a friendship.

It's just a bit weird to me weird I suppose because I've never become friends with an ex before and I don't believe he has either. It's really nice actually!

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GreenlandTheMovie · 01/12/2020 05:35

I'm cynical. I think he just hasn't met someone else yet and is keeping you around just in case. As soon as he meets someone he is more into, you will be 0hased out.

GardenSwing · 01/12/2020 07:02

Tbh, he was single for 5 years before he met me. He's not stayed friends with anyone else he's dated - I know this from mutual friends who were really surprised he'd suggested it. So we must have something - even if it's just platonic.

I initiated the break up conversation but he was in agreement with it. We got on and liked each other but there were probably too many incompatabilities for it to have worked out in terms of what we both want out of life and he has struggled more than me with lockdown etc.

I don't think you're wrong but the same could equally be said of me!

I don't think he's 'into' me at all, tbh. I don't want him to suggest we try again but a couple of people have suggested to me that they think he might. I just wondered if it looked like that to other people or whether this could be a proper friendship - it certainly feels like one!

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Wiredforsound · 01/12/2020 07:32

My best friend is my exH. We were incompatible in lots of ways as husband and wife, but we have very similar views on parenting and decided at the outset to put the kids at the very centre of everything we do. Consequently he lives a mile down the road, pops in most days to see the kids, has them over 2-3 nights a week, we often have a coffee together and we spend Christmas and the kids birthdays together with them and our new partners. I find it really weird to think that I ever fancied him, and think that now we’re in the place we were always supposed to be with each other. Enjoy it. All positive friendships should be nurtured.

GardenSwing · 01/12/2020 07:34

Wiredforsound

That slovenly. Has it caused issues in other relationships?

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GardenSwing · 01/12/2020 07:34

Lovely! Not slovenly 🙄😬

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GreenlandTheMovie · 01/12/2020 09:20

So he's dated other people in the last 5 years that your mutual friends have met, yet he was single this entire time? That diesnt even make sense. Was he not in a relationship with any of these women he dated? Did he sleep with them?

I think both of you knoe what is going to happen when you stay over at his. He just sounds to me like a man who can't do relationships, but still wants female company during lockdown, who wants to have the last word.

GardenSwing · 01/12/2020 12:44

So he's dated other people in the last 5 years that your mutual friends have met, yet he was single this entire time? That diesnt even make sense

From what I understand, he has had a few first dates over the past 5 years that didn't go anywhere. He had a short relationship prior to that and a 10 year relationship before that. I don't know about before her. Mutual friends have known him for several decades. None of his female friends are exes.

I don't think he can do relationships, no.

Well I wont be having sex with him if that's what you mean Wink

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