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Feeling really down... Can this relationship work out?

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Theghostofchristmasarse · 22/11/2020 20:06

Early this year, my marriage ended. All very amicable, very sad, but we are all ok. Children, 5 and 10, are fine, doing really well. Just fizzled out, lots of resentment from my side about how he left me to do everything, despite a full time job. I felt unsupported and lonely, he was cold, drank too much, sex was perfunctory at best. I turned into a nag around him. Didn't like myself very much. We were good friends, had a laugh together (when drink involved) but we weren't making each other happy. It took me about 6 years of feeling unhappy, on and off, to get to that point. So it was a relief when it ended. Lots of mutual friends still have no idea because he made me promise I wouldn't tell anyone... And then lockdown. So we didn't see anyone. Lived separate lives, then he moved out in July. People gradually got to know. Most didn't agree with me ending it, lots of comments about how I should have just got on with it, marriage is like that, etc etc. They only saw him as the good time, happy drunk.
I am happier though, the relief was immense.

A colleague at work I've known 9 years had become a friend. There was chemistry, but nothing ever happened, we became very good friends, laughed about fancying each other and made it into a big joke.. always had a great time chatting, very easy with each other and worked really well together. My ex knew about him, I used to joke about him fancying me and we used to laugh it off really. Wasn't a threat. We chatted lots during lockdown, got closer, then during the summer when things were lifted a little we saw lots of each other for walks, just to fill the time I was alone.

So, of course... Started seeing each other in september and have been very very happy. We both know it's quick, but at the same time are very comfortable with each other and it feels very right.

We only see each other at work, but without anyone knowing we are an item, so just to say hi in passing, or when I don't have the children, which is fine, I'm happy to have time to myself and so is he. We both have (had!) lots of hobbies, friends, separate interests.

We talk every day, we watch stuff online together, we fill the time when we can't see each other but do miss each other lots.

Everything is fantastic, we are suited and are very open with each other. Lots of the same goals, we've talked about the future a lot, tentatively but are happy to just see how things go. Been very open about the things I did wrong in my marriage and why I think it failed, I've had lots of therapy and we talk a lot about making sure we don't make the same mistakes. He's a very different person from my ex.

But. Covid and the speed (9 months ish since split) is making things so complicated. I only see him when I don't have the children, although they have met him a few times through work in the past and like him. I'm not planning on introducing him to them anytime soon, at all.
None of my friends apart from one couple who have met him and thought he was great, know we are together because it's so soon after my marriage ending. It wouldn't be fair for my ex to find out through friends as I'm worried he'd assume it was going on before we split. I don't want to hurt him.

I can't see him at his house as he has a lodger who is working from home and literally never leaves the house. He's really weird about people and doesn't want to be my support bubble household. So although really, if I had a positive test, my boyfriend would have to isolate and so would the lodger, as he's a hermit and never leaves the house anyway, it's basically no difference to his life... He's aware my bf sees me and is fine with it, but not with me going there. Which is fine, but that means he has to stay here... My neighbours know that my ex has left but due to lockdown really didn't know until September... So again, I'm worried about them assuming things about us. (live in a tiny village, everyone snoops)

Basically I can't tell anyone about him, I can't see him at his house, I can't see him here more than maybe once a month, and now with new restrictions I can't see us being able to see each other at all, as he will want to see his parents on Xmas day and they are vulnerable... I can't spend time with him before then as it'll just be too much of a risk to them as my children are in 2 schools. I don't have time without the children for the next month anyway as my ex is away with work and then isolating.

Ridiculous thing is we work in a school, so are at so much more risk at work than if he comes to see me at my house with no one else here..we both feel like the lockdown is a bit of a joke as we work with over a 1000 teens every day... But aren't allowed to spend time together.

Basically I've just got so down today, thinking it could be another 6 months before we can see each other anywhere apart from outside and at work, or spend any time together in each others homes. We cant have anything approaching a normal start to our relationship. It was fine when it was nice out, we walked, went to garden centres, out for drinks outside... The weather is shit here and we still do this but it's not the same.
I don't feel I can tell anyone, as strictly speaking we can't have started a relationship until everything has lifted, and even then it'll seem weird me introducing him as they'll see how we are together and how we'll we know each other. So it'll be months and months, maybe another year before friends know, meet him etc and then maybe another 6 months before my children do. Probably longer to be sure I want to do that.

Urgh... I'm rambling, not even sure it makes sense. I can't see it working, we miss each other loads and are doing what we can to connect but I just feel so down at the thought of months more of minimal contact with him, or anyone else for that matter as I've kind of used up my support bubble with him, so I'm not allowed to see anyone else. I feel so isolated and alone, he's helping me to feel less like this and is so patient but I just really want normal.

I just don't know how this can work out. I'd love it to, I'm so happy with him and he's been really positive, trying to suggest ways we can spend time together without actually seeing each other.. But I can't help feeling so down about it. I kind of feel like just saying let's not bother until there's a vaccine and restrictions are lifted, but the thought of that is just miserable as no one really knows how long that'll be.

I guess maybe I treat it like a long distance relationship until then? Or do I just have a break until it all goes away 😭

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Asparagus123 · 23/11/2020 08:57

Bump

Shoxfordian · 23/11/2020 10:28

You can still speak all the time, go for a walk when the weather isn't too bad, use this time to get to know him, find online things to do together, cyber sex, games, watch a show together. There's some quote that says love is like a fire, the wind extinguishes the small and makes the real thing burn greater. Send each other poems or love letters.

Theghostofchristmasarse · 23/11/2020 10:50

Thank you. Yes, we can, we do. I think it's the uncertainty that's getting to me. Maybe planning things we can do and planning stuff to do when I cant see him will help.

I know people are do much worse off than me, I know this is small fry, but it's getting me to the point where I am feeling like I want to start taking antidepressants again, I've only just got off them after several months. It's the bring able to spend time together physically which is what I'm craving. Just need a cuddle 🙁

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HollowTalk · 23/11/2020 10:57

It's only three months or so until we have the vaccine. Are teachers getting vaccinated earlier than others the same age?

Theghostofchristmasarse · 23/11/2020 13:49

No... No earlier, as far as I know. Feels horrible at the moment, we feel like we could potentially be giving it to anyone.

I haven't told him yet that I don't think I can see him before Xmas if he's going to see his parents Xmas day. I guess though I might see him just after at least.

We do catch up during the day if we can, but it's stressful, just all the work stuff, covid stuff. Can't talk freely. He's more scared by it than me I think understandably because his parents are vulnerable as nd he's not seen them properly since March, they're very close.

I'll wait and see what Boris has to say later on I guess.

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Eesha · 23/11/2020 16:52

@Theghostofchristmasarse i felt like you too, starting a new relationship during these weird times. My partner is extra cautious anyway so I resigned myself to long cold socially distanced walks plus we also faced various issues like illness or that he would need to socially distance for ages in case he saw his family for Christmas. I would say that if your relationship can survive during these strange times, it should be able to sustain most things. We somehow muddled through and it's been about 5 months now. I think you should keep the communication lines open, plan days out like walks and also just ask whether he wants it to continue too. If you both want to, you can make it work.

Theghostofchristmasarse · 23/11/2020 22:31

@eesha yes, it's hard, thanks though... I guess I just need to get myself out of my doldrums.. Just realised we will be in Tier 3 which is shit and means yet more outside meeting... He does want to, we both do. We are very happy except for his twattish weird hermit lodger and we have been very luck with time together until now I guess. Hopefully just a few more months.. The beauty is I guess that we do talk, we are very open, he knows I worry and get down about it all do he will send me silly stuff to cheer me up..
Better invest in a hot water bottle and some thermals I guess... 😂

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Fudgsicles · 23/11/2020 22:55

Don't give up on it OP. It sucks but make the best of it until you can do it properly.

I dated as soon as my marriage ended. Not planned mind you. I had checked put long before and ended up getting friendly with a guy when our paths crossed which lead to more. My marriage was ending so I wasn't looking or even thinking of starting anything at that point. But once it was there I wasn't giving it up because we just connected and it felt amazing. I didn't give a shit what others would have thought though about how quick it was. It's no one else's business tbh. I think you should worry less over everyone else's feelings and just do what makes you happy. Life is too short.

Supereager · 24/11/2020 06:07

You’re over thinking it all. Just think how lucky you are to have found this great connection. Just enjoy it! Enjoy the distraction. Go with the flow. If it’s another year before normal then so be it. Enjoy long chats and getting to know each other. These are weird times and most people are struggling. At least you’ve got somebody. Don’t screw it up by over thinking it. Have fun with it. He’s a boyfriend. That’s it.

Theghostofchristmasarse · 24/11/2020 10:26

Thanks. Strulling at the moment, just getting annoyed with him that he won't stand up to his lodger, it's his bloody house! Making me think he's spineless really... But also it's because he doesn't want to upset him, or me... Trying to keep everyone happy.
Just need to not give a fuck really but I hate upsetting people, or people thinking badly of me.

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Theghostofchristmasarse · 24/11/2020 10:32

@supereager yes. Definitely overthinking! First relationship in 18 years 😂 not used to this at all... Guess I'm just so happy that I don't want to mess it up... I messed up my marriage by not talking, not spending enough time together, keeping tings in.
I will try to just enjoy it, there's no rush, no pressure from anyone really to hurry it.

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IJustWantSomeBees · 25/11/2020 09:55

Sorry can you clarify, is it your boyfriend or the lodger who doesn't want you to form a support bubble with boyfriend? The fact that you work together and have sex together at your house makes it ludicrous that the lodger would not allow you to go to your boyfriends house! Also, he's a lodger not a tenant so I don't think he has a say anyway as it's not his house. If I were your boyfriend I'd just tell the lodger that you are now a part of the support bubble; single people need support/love just as much as coupled people do!

Theghostofchristmasarse · 25/11/2020 13:18

Haha its the lodger....

Yep, it's ludicrous. I spoke to bf yesterday and made it clear how shitty its making me feel that if we get time together I currently have to go for a walk in the cold with him, or make plans to somehow stop my nosy neighbours deciding I'm breaking rules...

The lodger has lived with him for 15 years, he's a friend too, and he's bloody awkward. Doesn't like people, terrified of getting covid. Is quite happy to hide away wfh forever. He's had a wonderful lockdown, he's making more money by wfh, he doesn't have to see anyone, he can get up late and just work later, he's literally had no downsides. Whereas trying to explain to him that the rest of us are suffering, we are exhausted, sressed ec... Just doesn't compute. He's bloody weird.
I see his point, we both work in a school, I have children in 2 schools and my risk is higher... But we don't interact at all when I'm there, I use the kitchen, briefly, and the bathroom. We don't ever sit in the same room.

Basically bf is trying to keep everything calm and doesn't want to fall out with him, because he has to live with him.

He knows I'm pissed off. He's said let's give it a break from me going there till after Xmas and that he will travel to me... Then hopefully things might be looking a little brighter in the new year. He said if lodger is still being a dick about it he will just tell him, its happening so live with it.

Thing is, lodger isn't going to get the vaccine anytime soon, he's a healthy man in his 30s...I'm not sure if he thinks he can hide away forever... He's not bloody scuppering my love life though, he might not want interaction, I do and do does bf!

We are going to be in Tier 3 by the looks of it, so no better from next week. Just got to get to the end of term without catching it from school and then look hope things start to improve.

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IJustWantSomeBees · 25/11/2020 14:36

Well best of luck to you both, sounds like you've got a good plan for the future. I'm an extreme introvert but I hate it when people who are anti-social expect the rest of the world to revolve around their social requirments.

Eesha · 26/11/2020 09:47

@Theghostofchristmasarse i think the good point here is your partner can come and see you. It's not easy, I know this. My partner will now need to bubble with his family so I'm not sure when I'll ever see him now. But at the same time I don't want anyone else.

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