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spogs · 18/10/2007 16:44

its all come out

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dh1 · 23/10/2007 00:52

Spogs, I've read through both your threads and I think you now know the answers, whether from a male or female point of view.

Sadly, as others (both male & female) have said, it looks as tho' you have a major breakdown of trust, for whatever reason. From a bloke's point of view, your DH could be in a bit of the "venus & mars" thing as someone suggested - or rather just good old fashioned being pissed off that you have been snooping and the inherent lack of trust that goes with that. (Chicken & egg?)

You both obviously have a trust problem and it could be that the whole thing has spriralled downwards - having, it seems, from what I have read of both threads - grown arms and legs in your own mind, before you were able to raise the issue without any sense of confrontation. And then of course, stubbornness can kick in - with neither of you able to find a way out of the situation without "backing down" or admitting that you were in the wrong.

It does seem that there's now a need to talk to help recover the situation.

from a bloke's perspective, I like the views that skidoddle has offered you, although I will say that you might find that it might take a bit of work to get your dh to counselling, because it is just possible that this has gotten out of control because your dh got seriously knarked at what he might see is you jumping to conclusions and not trusting him.

not so much a bloke's opinion, more another interpretation.

spogs · 23/10/2007 11:33

thanks dh1 good to hear and qagree with what your saying he has said he will go to councelling as he does have a problem but its alot of money to do i know i can hear everyone shouting well what is your relationship worth but i will arrange it do you think we should go together or him go alone first

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dh1 · 23/10/2007 21:24

Spogs, difficult without knowing what your DH actually feels/is thinking. As someone who has gone through counselling (and I am sure there are many others on here who can give you their views/experience), I think it is very helpful if before you go (either on your own? his own? or together) that you agree what it is you both want to get out of it.... which I suppose is "relationship back on track". But, as again I'm sure many others will tell you, the counsellor can't necessarily do that for you, it is only both of you - being willing to admit that their is "cause" from both of you and that you both want to and are prepared to change things that will help your situation.

I use "Cause" rather than "Fault" or" Blame"... because I suspect the reason that you guys have got where you are is a bit of a breakdown over a period - andone thing feeds another and sure there are "Blame moments or events in your shared history" but if you both want to get your relationship on an even keel, when you go to a counsellor you really need to be able to hear what your partner is saying and be prepared to help change your joint situation.

I hope that makes sense.

I'm not sure from what I have read that your dh believes, nor necessarily should he, that he needs to go to a counsellor... remeber, he might be feeling quite pissed at you for "snooping", so even though YOU might feel he needs to put things right, it is just as likely that he might be feeling the same.

It's not easy, but if you both want it to work, it's worth the effort and not doubt some pain in the process too.

amytheearwaxbanisher · 23/10/2007 21:42

id give him the benifit if the doubt about the meet up but he obviously has something to hide if he wont let you look at his emails sorry he is putting you through this

dh1 · 23/10/2007 23:20

amyetc, not sure it's right to say "he's obviously got something to hide" - he very well may have, but....here's the male point of view...he may just be very pissed off at what he sees as a lack of trust by his partner in her desire to 'snoop' on him. Might not sound logical to a female mind, but trust me to a fella the indignation and subsequent apparent "stubborness" are to more than justified.

HappyWoman · 24/10/2007 08:37

sorry you are going through this - it is awful to have your gut feel confirmed for the worst.

It is up to your h to now give you all you want with regaurds openness and honest and if that means seeing his emails - so be it.

I have been there - my h had a long term affair last year and it is so very difficult to get over it.

I also know how awful it is to want to snoop and it is not a nice place to be. But at the moment that is what you need so dont fight it.

counselling is great if you can get it and really worth a try.

I would also throw caution in believing anything your h is saying now without proof - he will not like it but that is what you need now. There seems to be a script that men 'caught out' seem to follow and one of the things they do is to 'blame' you and get angry at your behaviour to justify what they have to hide.

I am here for you if you need to chat and can cat me if you like.

Good luck

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