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Am I overthinking? I want to get this right and really don't want to mess it up!

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OverunWithRabbits · 11/11/2020 06:30

Hi. I hope you can help me with this.

I dated a man for a several months. We split up just over a month ago mainly because of lockdown/work pressures and the fact he'd slumped into a bit of a depression because of it. I broke up with him but he was fine with it as he wasn't in a great place. We have a lot of pre-existing mutual friends and so we both wanted to remain 'friends'.

I didn't really expect anything to come of that but we actually get on a lot better as friends and text/phone weekly and have been out a couple of times (before new lockdown hit). The friendship thing does seem to be genuinely working - he phoned last night and we had a really nice chat for an hour or so. I think we are far better suited as friends and we get on a lot better. There's been no talk of 'us'. He's in a much better place now because his personal/work situation has improved. I am fond of him but only platonically. I don't have feelings for him. I believe that is mutual.

Then, a couple of weeks ago, I met someone else - completely out of the blue. I wasn't looking and certainly wasn't interested in meeting anyone but we got talking, got on well, saw each other a couple of times before new lockdown and once (outside) since. We are in brief contact every day. I only ever take things slowly emotionally - no 'falling in love'. Obviously, it's very early days with him - literally a few dates - but he seems quite keen and I like him. It would be nice see where it goes.

Neither of them know about the other. It's an odd situation for me. I've never bothered trying to remain friends with an ex before and I wouldnt normally meet someone so quickly! I'm usually single for a good 6-12 months at least between at least. I'm not 'dating'.

New man doesn't know I'm still friends, talk and have met up with a recent ex as friends. Recent ex doesn't know there is a new man on the scene.

He's asked me to bubble with him since neither of us have a support bubble and I've had a negative test since recent ex and I split up so I think that's fine. It's like a clean slate. And I'm supposed to be going to his at the weekend when, presumably, sex will be on the cards.

Am i doing anything wrong? Do I need to tell recent ex I've been on a few dates with someone? Do I need to tell new man that one of the friends I've told him about meeting up with is a recent ex?

Obviously, if either of them had a problem with it, that would be their issue/potentially a red flag. However, I would want to know if someone was meeting up with a recent ex as friends if I'm honest. I wouldn't necessarily have problem with it but I'm very big on openness and honesty and I feel that I'm being deceitful. Even though I've not behaved inappropriately and if recent ex suggested trying again, I'd say no - regardless of the new man. I just wouldn't want it to come out at a later date and for it to look like I'd been hiding it. But at the same time, it feels like I'd be 'announcing' something that doesn't yet feel it needs to be announced.

Not a teenager, honestly, i just want to do the right thing by everyone and not behave deceitfully. Thanks.

OP posts:
GondolaBing · 11/11/2020 08:28

Why do you want to remain friends with your ex?

velourvoyageur · 11/11/2020 08:45

OP I admire your wish to behave honourably but honestly I think you're way overthinking it. You don't owe the new man anything as a boyfriend or friend, you've known him two weeks. You were only dating the other man a few months and you don't have feelings for him now, there's nothing to confess. It's very normal to stay friends with someone you briefly went out with. If you mention it to NM he'll probably read too much into it. Just relax and enjoy dating NM.
The only thing I'm reading into your post now is - do you actually not have feelings for him, or is this inspired by guilt? I think otherwise people wouldn't think twice about it really.

LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett · 11/11/2020 09:00

You are waaaaay overthinking this. You don't owe your ex an update on your dating life, you don't need to tell someone you've been on three dates with that you're friends with a casual ex.

That said... Unless you're planning to use one of them as leverage? If I was on the phone to a friend for an hour I would mention I was going on a date the next day or whatever, that's the sort of thing friends talk about. do you still have feelings for your ex?

OverunWithRabbits · 11/11/2020 12:37

I think I've been quite clear in my opening post about how I feel.

I didnt mention it because we were talking about other things.

I'm not going to use anyone as leverage 🙄

I just wondered if it would be appropriate to say something.

Thanks for the responses that I'm overthinking it.

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GaryTheDemon · 11/11/2020 12:44

I think you’re over worrying. Break was amicable, you aren’t continuing anything overly close with ex. So you can tell new man if you like but you aren’t obligated.

You owe ex nothing.

RantyAnty · 11/11/2020 12:55

Of course you don't say anything.

It's isn't anyone's business.

New guy sounds pretty confident he's going to get laid since he's already asked you to be bubbles. But that's typical in the lying stage.

Always put yourself first when dating. I guarantee these men are putting themselves first.

Lobsterquadrille2 · 11/11/2020 13:11

I think you're being very considerate but maybe overthinking a little. You're not obliged to let your ex know that you are possibly entering into a new relationship, any more than he needs to tell you if he was doing the same. However, are you afraid of hurting him, in which case do you think he might have feelings for you which are more than platonic? If that's the case then it might be kinder to him to distance yourself, regardless of the new man.

Isthisnothing · 11/11/2020 13:45

Hey I understand your dilemma. I remember being in a similar situation - it hadn't really taken off with one guy and he called time but we remained friendly. I started dating someone else when first man said he was gonna be in my area and would I like to go for dinner.

I was doing nothing wrong but it made me a little uneasy so I just mentioned it in passing to both.

What did you do this week? I went out for dinner with my friend Steve, he's a lovely guy, we actually dated briefly. It never took off but we became friends.

So how have things been since I saw you last? Oh yeah they've been good, work is going well, I've had some good nights out and I've been on a few dates with a guy I quite like.

It's too early for confessions but you are right to not cover it up. If things progress with New Man you will probably what him to meet up with Old Man (sounds terrible). And if Old Man is harbouring feelings then it is better he knows this won't be going beyond friendship.

Coffeeandaride · 11/11/2020 13:49

@Isthisnothing

Hey I understand your dilemma. I remember being in a similar situation - it hadn't really taken off with one guy and he called time but we remained friendly. I started dating someone else when first man said he was gonna be in my area and would I like to go for dinner.

I was doing nothing wrong but it made me a little uneasy so I just mentioned it in passing to both.

What did you do this week? I went out for dinner with my friend Steve, he's a lovely guy, we actually dated briefly. It never took off but we became friends.

So how have things been since I saw you last? Oh yeah they've been good, work is going well, I've had some good nights out and I've been on a few dates with a guy I quite like.

It's too early for confessions but you are right to not cover it up. If things progress with New Man you will probably what him to meet up with Old Man (sounds terrible). And if Old Man is harbouring feelings then it is better he knows this won't be going beyond friendship.

This, can’t you mention it in passing sometime in the coming weeks.
rumred · 11/11/2020 13:54

Agree mostly with the above opinions but if you still have feelings for your ex or he has them for you then that needs sorting.
How would you feel if your new bf was seeing a recent ex?

OverunWithRabbits · 11/11/2020 17:03

Ok, thanks.

Well, new man is friends with his last ex but that ended around a year ago. It doesn't bother me. A recent ex might bother me in case there were residual feelings.

I know how I feel about recent ex. I fancied him for ages. We got together and, although we got on, there was just no spark at all! We tried for a few months- partly, I think, because of the mutual friend situation and neither of wanted to make others awkward. All i know is that I've enjoyed his company more since we broke up than I ever did when we were together. I'm more relaxed and I feel that we are good friends and probably should just have become that in the first place.

I've never got back with an ex and I don't get any sense from him that he has feelings for me. I can't imagine he'd want to either.

I wouldnt be bothered if recent ex met someone else but I think I'd feel weird if it had been kept from me - I'd wonder why.

I'm not afraid recent ex would be hurt. I've just not been in this situation before and I wasnt sure what the etiquette was!

New guy sounds pretty confident he's going to get laid since he's already asked you to be bubbles

Maybe it's me who's feeling confident of this Wink I'm not the sort to get hurt if it doesn't go beyond sex. I'm a big girl.

Mentioning it in passing is probably better.

I wouldn't like to be either of them and felt it had been kept from me tbh. But then I'm honest to a fault and hate the idea of any deception.

If it worked out with new man then it seems pretty obvious to me that they'd meet at some point.

I just don't want to get it wrong really.

OP posts:
OverunWithRabbits · 11/11/2020 17:14

I have no expectations but I'm assuming some men have feelings and would like to be treated with respect.

I guess I just want to treat them the way I'd like to be treated myself.

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velourvoyageur · 11/11/2020 18:29

It's not a question of deception and respect unless you have feelings for the other guy.

OverunWithRabbits · 11/11/2020 19:21

velourvoyageur

That's good to know. Thanks.

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Catty15 · 12/11/2020 10:29

I've been in a similar situation and I was open with both of them.
Ex took it badly and we haven't spoken since ( no great loss)
New man has been my husband for 16 years! I knew he was special very early on & didn't want to hide things that would then possibly necessitate lying further down the line.
I had some outings planned with ex that I cancelled.

If the situation had been reversed, I wouldn't like it.

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