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I’m totally stuck in a rut

12 replies

RealSadHelp · 08/11/2020 00:22

I don’t even know where to start. Married to Hsbnd for 14 years. 2 DC. So many ups and downs like usual marriage but we have some serious issues which have just got out of control and I really am stuck. I’m stuck because I lost my job and am relying on him at the moment.
No family or friends and it’s a pandemic.

The problems are

We don’t have sex at all. In fact it’s been over 6 years. I did lose my libido during some of that but definitely got it back a few years ago. Have tried so many ways to initiate it.

It’s so hard to hear other women saying they have to pretend they have a headache, I don’t have the luxury of saying that. He never makes a move.

There is no emotionally intimacy at all. I have to ask for a hug. I don’t even know what to think as o write this. I am annoyed that I’ve allowed him to even treat me this way. If I manage to get a hug then it’s like a mate type hug. Not cosy hugs. He even taps my back and pulls away fast.

If I mention anything to him asking him to respect me he gets short tempered with me and shouts and gets mad. He’s always mad at me.

Today he was moaning at me so much that he even said well all you do is sit in front of the TV. That is not true. I have taken a small break this week as I applie for jobs but got declined. He did yeah I know what that’s like. I thought no you don’t. You were never jobless when looking for a job.

He swears at me. He looks at me in a really angry face. If I ever suggest anything he will do the opposite, he ignores me. He tells me I’m annoying and if I wanna leave I should.

I try hard to make him be nice loving and caring but he isn’t interested.

I’m so in a rut. I can’t leave.
I wish I Could get an amazing job and feel like I’m making a contribution.

Thanks x

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RealSadHelp · 08/11/2020 08:27

Would love any advice on this please. I’ve woken with a banging headache and feel completely lost and confused. I feel angry and don’t want to see or speak to him. He’s not supportive. He’s a live wire and you never know what you might get.
I know I nag but I never say cruel things and I’m only ever asking for him to be kinder or not speak to me so rudely. He just gets worse, saying who do you think you are? You can’t tell me what to do. But then I explain I’m not telling him what to do, I’m merely letting him know how I like to be treated. Obviously yesterday I was quite frustrated. It showed in my tone of voice. I basically said I’m fed up of our dire situation, the fact he treats me with no respect and ignores my emotional needs. He gives no love no hugs. He just keeps a huge distance (and not because of Covid). Oh I’m just lost and sad.

I don’t know how I will get through this as I can’t see an end and I feel so stuck.

Any other husbands out there similar to this? How do you deal with them? How do you get confident in a relationship where you get zero support? I find him really selfish.

I think I hate who he has become.
He’s in his own mind all the time.

Anyway. I hope someone responds.

Thanks.

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AquarianSquirrel · 08/11/2020 08:39

First of all, I'm so sorry you're going through this. It's a particularly cruel feeling to be in a relationship with someone but yet feel so alone.

Can you broach the subject when you're not in the middle of an argument? Both find a time; when you're not stressed or tired; to talk?

Does he ever see there's a problem in the relationship? Seems like he blames you and doesn't see his part in it? I sympathise and am going through sonething similar. I have been a right pain in the past but it's like I can't have any mood aside from extremely chipper or nodding dog or he'll have something to say..and gets riled up so quickly..of course every argument was started by me and he was so nice and so helpful...hmm. very tiring and soul destroying. He also wants to leave after every argument and says so...

Sorry this has turned into a rant. Anyway. I understand and sympathise and hope you can both find a time to talk. Maybe write down salient points beforehand; which you don't want to forget, in an argument that could get quite heated?

Hailtomyteeth · 08/11/2020 08:45

I'm sorry. That sounds like a terrible way to live.

You need to get away. Start planning now. Don't tell him - let it come as a surprise, when you're ready and leave. Cherish your plans to your heart and act on them, a little bit at a time.

So now you have two plans - to get a job, to leave the dh. Living alone is far less lonely than being alone in a relationship.

FippertyGibbett · 08/11/2020 08:47

You need to decide whether you want this for the rest of your life or not.
If you don’t then make plans to leave.
You can get a free first chat with a solicitor if you ring around, so get some paper work together.
1.Do you own/rent.

  1. Do either of you have a private pension.
  2. Get screen shots or paper copies of all bank accounts. Even any he has in his name only if you can 😉
And don’t leave unless you are concerned for the safety of yourself or your children, or unless your solicitor tells you to. You are in a good financial position.
wirldsgonemad · 08/11/2020 08:55

Married for 14 yrs with 2 children? Surely he should leave so you can bring the children up in the family home. See a solicitor pronto!

RealSadHelp · 08/11/2020 11:26

Thank you thank you for everything you have suggested so far.

AquarianSquirrel - I’m so sorry you Are going through something similar. If you want to talk rant or just vent it’s fine - I’m hear to listen to other people too. My husband is the same, he just expects me to not have any moods and if I’m upset about anything then he just blanks me. Today I’m depressed. I feel it I look it. I’ve sorted out the breakfasts and will do all my required tasks but I just feel so down and stuck in a marriage that I hate. I’m going to try and do some work on myself. That includes some reading up on what you can do just before you exit a marriage. I don’t want to put this verbal abuse and bickering to the side anymore. Marriages are supposed to be a partnership of love and support. Plus there’s always an option to agree to disagree! I hope you manage to come to a resolution.

Hailtomyteeth - I like your idea to keep it quiet. He doesn’t need to know everything.

FippertyGibbett - I definitely need to make decision. There is only so much advice and support I can get. In the end it’s my choice what I do. It’s hard when someone isn’t hitting you, is a good Father, says sorry, but doesn’t change but convinced you they will.

I fall for it every time.

wirldsgonemad - it would make sense for me to stay in this home. It would be fair for everyone.

I’m Usually a very chirpy and optimistic as a person. Love games and love being happy, going out for walks and cooking. But I am so tired of our marriage that everything I do takes so much effort.

Here is some more information about him that might help you understand even more of what I am going through.

See below in 2mins.

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RealSadHelp · 08/11/2020 11:29

The story so far; I have had a job all our marriage even when we had our DC. I’ve been faithful, never cheated or even flirted. We have been married 14 years.

We argue all the time. EVERYDAY.
I’m not the woman I was when he married me.
Our kids see us bicker all the time.

A few arguments have blown out of control in the past and family members have stepped in to help.

He seems to quickly adjust his tone, behaviour in front of people but behind closed doors-
-he ignores me
-shouts (I shout back too though so I’m no saint)
-he is short tempered
-makes very angry rude faces
-tells me I’m a nightmare
-never consoles me when I cry (I cry a lot)
-neve hugs me (I have to ask and if he does a lot of tapping my back like he would his best mate)
-he’s spent money without asking me in the past
-lied about his money and debt in the past
-he’s stayed out till so late in the past like 4am and not told me where he was left me worried sick but then tells me there is nothing wrong with that and says his colleagues and him were just chatting
-he sent me a photo from a strip bar once, just a photo no words and I was completely shocked. I never knew he went there as when I asked him previously he said he hates those places. He got away with this as well. I always forgive forget.
-he ignores me when I’m speaking to him.
-he shows me no support. If I’m excited about something in my life he gets all withdrawn making me feel edgy instead of smiling and saying I can see you are happy and I’m happy for you.
-he’s a workalholic (is that bad? Probably not) but he told me that it’s because I don’t have a job so if he doesn’t work then we would be up shit street. Like I said I have worked out whole marriage up still the beginning of this year. When I worked he told me my pay is crap, I don’t bring enough in the house. I was earning 500 less than him. That’s a lot I guess, but I was part time and dropping kids some days and also collecting everyday. Not many jobs allow you to have that flexibility.
-if I tell him I’m sad about our relationship and the way we are he says it’s my fault or that it isn’t the time to speak about it (there is never a right time)
-when I’m reasoning with him calmly he starts saying really nasty stuff, like he said yesterday that I just sit in front of the TV flicking channels all day. So how did I apply for over 50 jobs?! I got all rejections and I did feel sad. But I keep the entire home looked after, meals, cleaning etc.
-We have no sex. He won’t be emotionally connected to me and has also chosen to sleep in another room. It started off because of his snoring but when I have asked him to come back he has given excuses, he drinks on purpose I think because he knows I hate the smell of alcohol, especially beer. So I tell him on drinking days he would not be able to sleep next to me (is that bad?)

  • we’ve been sleeping apart for over 6 years but our sex life has been an issue for 14 years. Apart from TTC it has been non existent. In all the times we did have sex I initiated it all the time. He has never initiated it.
-when I asked for empathy about the job hunt his response was, yeah I already been there, it’s a process. Instead of saying it must be hard keep your head up and keep going. It’s like he hates me. I can feel it that he hates me -I have never felt so unloved, unsupported, uncared for in my life.

I have tried my best to show love to him. I always support him in his job, his business. But he’s so controlling about everything. I have to do everything off the back of his business. He won’t let me start my own business. Says it’s too much hard work to set one up. He flogs off my ideas at first, then does what I said but never gives me credit. He says I’m a nightmare and that’s why no one likes me. That’s really harsh because I had a bad time with a few friendships and colleagues over the decade and I confided in my husband and now he uses it all against me. Even though I have rectified most, if not nearly all those relationships and made them stronger. He still to this day uses what he knows about me against me.

I cry A lot. He never consoles me.
I’ve always got a headache or feel sick.

But. He makes enough money to run this house. He always says sorry eventually and that’s why I give in.

I’m beaten and tired of all this emotional neglect, of this tiresome bickering, of the bad fights and arguments, of being put down all the time, of him switching between being fun and angry in seconds, of him never listening to me (because he thinks I’m “telling him what to do”), getting no support or love or even sex. I have suffered low libido so some of those years did not bother me. But the last 5 years I have been really questioning the fact he won’t even initiate. I have spoken to friends and they have a good sex life. I can’t say anything about mine because he knows their husbands/partners. I’ve watched movies where couples even plan it! I think, we don’t even do that! We don’t even sleep in the same bed. This feels all so out of my control.

I feel I hate him too. I hate what we have become and I can’t find that point to restart. He won’t do counselling as he doesn’t believe in it.

Then I think. Well he’s alright. I could be with a man that beat the crap out of me. Yes that scares me because I witnessed this as a child. It’s the one thing I have always been scared of. So when this man I married only gave me verbal and emotional issues and anger faces I thought that is better than him hitting me.

After 14 years and now literally at breaking point I wonder how damaging this really is.

I do feel I may be going through a nervous breakdown as my crying and shouting has got worse.

Please give me any advice and any help on any of these matters.

I don’t care if you are harsh or judge me. I don’t care. Just someone help me please please please please please.

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FippertyGibbett · 08/11/2020 11:51

End it. Why do you continue in this misery ?
Think of the effect on the kids too.

Mama2Cubs · 08/11/2020 12:23

My husband did the same to me for the best part of a year, (in his case he had secretly got into online sex and had started an online affair with a cam girl, I’m not saying this is what your husband has done by the way!). I was left feeling lonely and rejected. I felt like he didn’t love me anymore and every time I asked him if we had a problem he would say no and that if there was a problem it was my own and everything was fine from his perspective. I got to a point where I wondered if I had some kind of hormone imbalance that was making me imagine that my relationship was falling apart in front of me. When he left, I was devastated but months on I’m starting to feel back to me! I don’t feel anxious all the time, even though it’s just me now I actually feel less lonely than I did with him here and ignoring me!

Only you can decide what is best but you shouldn’t have to live feeling unloved and alone. It is soul destroying! Whether you stay with him or not, dedicate your time to your DCs and yourself. Don’t waste your time on someone who can’t be bothered to show you the affection you deserve. Xx

AbiBrown · 08/11/2020 13:09

Try and find whatever courage you can to leave him. The kids deserve a happy mother. And not to replicate this awful dynamic later on. Other posters will be more clued on about logistics but you can't carry on living like this 💐

RealSadHelp · 08/11/2020 13:24

I am glad I’ve finally just written what’s happening instead of giving silly snippets. After everything I’ve said if this is the advice to leave, something I already know I should do, I’m mad to stay. I’m mad to continue to think he will change.

He never does. He reverts back to his self centred ways even faster. He has no real love or caring and the worst thing is that when I am actually happy he isn’t happy with me.

He’s also proving to be one of those husbands who does not like to earn the money and let his wife take care of home.

I do think he’s cheated. He’s a good liar and great at keeping it to himself.

I think he also suffered with ED. As a man this can’t be easy. But I have tried to support him. When he wanted to ignore the problem I listened to his reasons and I didn’t push him. Then when we addressed it again he said he wanted to see a doctor and I have supported hi all the way.

It’s not fair that I am being treated as though I don’t care.

Your right - our DC’s need love and happiness.

I never knew I would end up being this way.

I am really wanting to get out of this for good.

New start.

I will work on this myself.

Thank you.

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AquarianSquirrel · 08/11/2020 15:30

The most important parts of your post (fpr going forward) seem to be that he says your unhappiness in the relationship is your fault and that whenever you want to discuss things, it's never the right time... those two say to me that he has no willingness to change, when you have presumably bent over backwards to accommodate his needs? The lack of respect is palpable. You've stuck it out this long so you can play the long game and get everything ready (financial, housing wise etc) to start a new life without him. I can't imagine that wil be easy, though perhaps easier than this slow torture, but you are more than strong enough and deserve so much better. Much love sweet.

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