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Just found messages

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Valleygirl27 · 06/11/2020 06:16

Fuck. I see it so often on here and honestly didn't think it would have been me! The last couple of days I've had this weird insecure feeling, have had it randomly the last few months. I've never been the type to snoop but tonight I noticed a girls name on his whatsapp recent messages when he opened it beside me. I hadn't ever heard him mention this girl so I looked on his facebool friends list and it became clear it's an ex of his.
He got drunk (he's an alcoholic) and passed out so I checked his messages, at first was upset to see messages where he was saying how much he missed her etc, however these messages dated back to earlier in the year when we had a bit of a break during lockdown, but there was one today (she messaged him first asking how he was and he replied with a picture of himself saying he'd just had his hair cut, he then asked for a picture of her saying 'wanna see your face'.

I was preparing myself to talk to him in the morning and see what he had to say for himself but decided to delve deeper and found countless other messages, mainly starting when we had our break but some continuing after we made up. There was also a recent one to one of his female friends saying that he loved her and wanted her, that was just back in august just after we'd come back from a holiday together. I know the messages were all sent when he was drunk (he had messages the next day for each one apologising and saying how rough he felt) but i don't fucking care, it's no excuse. He's a functioning alcoholic so if this is what he does drunk then it's just gonna continue.

I've packed up all my things and left. He was passed out so didn't even notice the noise when I was taking away the drum kit and fucking furniture I bought (am I fuck leaving anything for him). I screenshotted all the messages so I have them. Was very tempted to send the girls something, notbing blaming them but just sending the screenshots of all the other messages that he was sending at the same time. Decided not to because I want to hold my head up high (i did hide the tv and playstation remotes behind the sofa though!).

Sorry this is all a bit of a rant but I have been up all night and am currently sitting in a flat I bought and have been renovating, literally sitting in the dog's bed because there's nothing else here, and just needed to vent and speak to someone. Hoping there's mumsnetters up at this time.

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Valleygirl27 · 06/11/2020 09:53

But please consider why you were considering a future and children with an alcoholic. Until you found those messages, that is where you were heading

To be honest because it was the old cliche of how amazing everything was the rest of the time, to be honest even when he drank every night, most times it was fine. But you're right, I should have been strong enough to leave sooner but I had convinced myself that once he had sorted his other shit out he could sort the drinking. I can see how wrong that was.

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Valleygirl27 · 06/11/2020 09:55

Legallyblondeee

@Valleygirl27 That was a bad ass move you made there! I imagine you walking out of that house in a fierce Beyoncé strut, middle finger up pooch and drum kit in tow!
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Grin I felt like that at the time, not feeling as strong now but trying to steel myself. Not strong as in I would go back but when I was leaving I was just thinking 'fuck him' but now I'm feeling kinda shitty.

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Valleygirl27 · 06/11/2020 09:58

He'll be dazed and confused and probably nothing will change but he had a good thing going with you and he lost it

I think this is true, I found messages to both his ex and the female friend where he's telling them how great I am and how happy he is with me. But they were when he was sober. When he's been drunk and I'm not there to be his anchor he has either ended up in fights (happened on other nights) or doing this. I hope he fucking realises what he lost.

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S111n20 · 06/11/2020 09:59

Well done for leaving you 100% did the right thing. Enjoy your amazing new freedom have fun 💐💐💐

Chickychickydodah · 06/11/2020 10:00

I wouldn’t live with an alcoholic, my ex my my life hell physically and mentally. He ruined my life in my late teens to mid 20 and is in jail now.
Focus on your job and be happy 💐

S111n20 · 06/11/2020 10:05

Soon he will be feeling sorry for him self crying and begging for you back. Pathetic.

LilacPebbles · 06/11/2020 10:19

You are in a much stronger position right now even if you don't feel like you are, than you ever were or would have been with him. He would've been a weight around your neck if he wasn't already.
Job, flat, renovation, independence, possibly kids with someone in future who would be a good role model....all reasons why you've made the right decision.

WhatATimeToBeAlive · 06/11/2020 10:26

middle finger up pooch and drum kit in tow

I had to read that a couple of times before I realised there was a comma missing. Grin

And well done, OP!

MMmomDD · 06/11/2020 10:32

My father was an alcoholic.
Just don’t go there ever again. Why would you want to even consider having children with someone who drinks heavily?
And all by choice 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️

Unless they realise they have a problem and stop drinking completely - it doesn’t get better. Functioning turns into non-functioning very quickly. It’s hell for all involved.

Flubber88 · 06/11/2020 11:06

Reading you story - same thing has happened to me (funny enough in early 30s!) in the past except I had the rigmarole of chucking them out. They were seeing multiple woman including my best friend (head fuck) and sound from the same egg - always in the midst of a crisis, always someone else's fault.

Feel you liberation and relief!

No they will not change and the person from my past (it's drugs with him not booze) is on the same sad repetitive train nearly 20 years later in his 50s with casual woman playing around pretending to have a good time whilst messing up others lives.

I have those waves of liberation again just writing these lines to you.

All the best to you - you have done 100% the right thing.

S111n20 · 06/11/2020 11:07

@WhatATimeToBeAlive

😂😂

shockthemonkey · 06/11/2020 11:23

In vino veritas.

What he's telling you while he's drunk is usually very very true.

Valleygirl27 · 06/11/2020 12:11

So we've literally gone through all the stages - first was shock and annoyance at my audacity (as it was apparently suspect that me leaving was well timed to coincide with my house almost being done). Then it was that it was just when we were on a break, when i listed off all of them to him it then turned to apologies and 'poor me, I'm so fucked up, you deserve so much better'. Now we're at 'I'm the best thing in his life, he won't ever do it again, can I ever forgive him?'

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Valleygirl27 · 06/11/2020 12:12

Flubber88

Thank you and so sorry to heat you went through that, as with the other PPs. Even if it was later than you mighy have liked at least you're all well rid now.

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Nc135 · 06/11/2020 12:23

Well yes he has literally gone through all the stages. First stage when he doesn’t think you know anything about the messages. Then he realised you know and tries to qualify them. Then he is truly caught out and self pity. And finally - oh maybe the best way is to tell her how amazing she is. It’s classic. Gosh please stay strong. He is not a nice person OP and there are so many amazing men out there who would be so lucky to have you and truly deserve you.

Nc135 · 06/11/2020 12:24

Ps has be found the remotes left and is your finger still up the pooch Grin

Nc135 · 06/11/2020 12:25

*yet not left. Was still laughing at the missing comma.

Valleygirl27 · 06/11/2020 12:35

Nc135

He's not mentioned the remotes yet and if my finger went anywhere near to going up the pooch I'd only have 9 left!

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Mix56 · 06/11/2020 12:42

Happily it seems you just saved the rest of your life.
Don't fall for the apology, it's hot air.
Look at the facts.
I assume he knows you will be in the flat. He will probably show up there.
If you don't have a bed, maybe you should be ordering one today !

Valleygirl27 · 06/11/2020 12:54

I've got one but it's all in bits so just sorting all my stuff up now.

He messaged asking for my address and postcode (which he fucking knows! My house is 2 streets away from him) , clearly wants to send flowers or something, as if it's going to make any sort of difference.
Finding it hard to not go round to his just now. It's daft because I know I won't go back but I almost want to here him fight for me, but I know that's for my own self-esteem and it will be better for me in the long run not to.

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WeakandWobbly · 06/11/2020 13:35

We are so cheering for you, OP. You are standing up for yourself. Do. Not. Look. Back. 👏 👏

Legallyblondeee · 06/11/2020 13:35

@WhatATimeToBeAlive

middle finger up pooch and drum kit in tow

I had to read that a couple of times before I realised there was a comma missing. Grin

And well done, OP!

Oh my god 😂 that’s so funny!
SpongeWorthy · 06/11/2020 13:38

He messaged asking for my address and postcode (which he fucking knows! My house is 2 streets away from him) , clearly wants to send flowers or something, as if it's going to make any sort of difference.

Haha my ex did this too!

I said to him it was pretty obvious it wasn't that he wanted to send me flowers, it's that he wanted me to know he was going to send me flowers - hence asking for the address he already knew.

Funnily enough a few bloom & wild deliveries didn't change my opinion of him shagging other people while he was with me...

He also used a dummy account after I blocked him to message saying "I can't believe you hate me so much you've changed the netflix password."

Yeah the Netflix I have paid for with my money for years. Guess his pride wasn't worth £8.99 a month!

Nothavingfunrightnow · 06/11/2020 14:07

The upset you feel now will pass. Please please please don't give him the satisfaction of going round to his.

I love you for hiding the remotes 😂😂😂 and for being strong 🏋️‍♀️

Sunnydaysstillhere · 06/11/2020 14:18

Refuse any such delivery op...

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