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Difficult ex and custody

10 replies

kap26 · 03/11/2020 06:55

Hi all, newbie here!
Long post alert
I really need some help and advice. I'm 34 with 4 children, i was with my ex for 17 years. We separated just over 2 years. I practically walked away with nothing and we agreed shared custody of the children, over the course of 2 weeks its a 50/50 split. I was told to leave the house as it was me that wanted out of our relationship. He kept the housing association house and i forced into private renting.

Now, thing is, he's not necessarily a 'bad guy' but there has been and still is a lot of control and manipulation, I'm not sure its intentional but its definitely there. The first time I went to go that year, he told me I would never see the kids again, so I stayed. The second time he threatened suicide, so again i stayed.

He demanded on paper the kids lived with him, meaning he had all the benefits, the much lower rent and everything else i had left, money etc.....
And because i was constantly guilt tripped with things like.....well the kids don't love you, you left, you've left me with nothing etc, etc I went with it partly to make sure i could also then share custody.
I was guilted into paying him £600pm as well!!!

Anyway.... Over the last 2 years, Iv grown as a person but I still have very little confidence when it comes do dealing and confronting him, anxiety levels go up, I'm almost sick, shake and become like this scared little girl! (he's a skinny 5ft4 man I'm 5ft6)
There has been incidents where my older 2 girls 15 & 13 have ran away from on separate occasions due to him grabbing one of them by the throat and just his general controlling behaviour, once even having to drive home 100miles, costing me a weeks work because there was no way I could leave my daughter in that distressed state!
He's controlling and even counts how much he has of things, crisps, bananas, bars for lunch boxes etc, then goes mental if anything goes missing!
Currently on his days to have the children, he very rarely is the one to look after them, its normally his parents, girlfriend or her friends and on the Sunday morning their lucky to see him before 11 ( my younger 2 are boys 9 & 7)
His house is a show home, I'm not kidding it's bloody immaculate! literally everything has been replaced in the last 2 years tea, coffee & sugar jars, towels, you name it, its been done!
Yet our boys are wearing school trousers that don't fit, one of them arrived last week in trousers that were age 5-6 he's 9 and are 15 year old daughter is wearing bras with the wires hanging out so iv just taking her shopping because he wouldn't order her any £50 later.......
They have takeaways or microwave meals most nights and I feel their needs aren't being met. I'v asked to maybe have 2 children in each of our names so at least i can help get what they need and spend the money in the right place but he went off on one and i'v been to scared to bring it up again and he will know this!
Help!!!!!!!!

OP posts:
Lonecatwithkitten · 03/11/2020 07:17

Have you got a court order? If not the time has come to stand up to him and move the children in with you. If you have a court order go back to court the eldest are of an age where their wishes would be listened to.

Rockinmomma · 03/11/2020 07:26

If you’ve got any correspondence like msgs screenshot them, go to a family lawyer and get advice
I’m sorry I can’t give more advice than that, others on here might have more experience

Alys20 · 03/11/2020 09:32

Speaking from similar very recent experience with a controlling bully, liar and inadequate father: as previous posters have said, you need a court order.

I recently got one and now have some peace of mind, as I can constantly refer to the court order when problems come up, as they inevitably will.

You seem concerned (as I was, stupidly) about not painting him as a "bad guy". He is in fact a controlling bully who's damaging his kids emotionally: the only way to deal is to stand up to him. Show zero emotion in your dealings with him. Kids' interests front and centre. He will constantly try and make it all about him, paint himself as the victim or blame you for everything. Ignore.

Stop trying to be fair with a person who doesn't play fair. It will destroy you.

  1. If you don't already have a solicitor, find one.
  2. Screenshot all the abusive/threatening texts, all the receipts that prove what you've spent on the kids, photograph all the kids' inadequate clothes and proof of what he says he's done but hasn't, open a little folder on your computer to store it in, then print it all off. If you go to a sol with all the evidence already in place, that's half the battle.
  3. Decide what it is you want re custody and do NOT allow yourself to be manipulated.

This will be a harrowing process for you. It took me two weeks to get all the evidence together. But you will create a better, healthier future for your kids if you can do this.

Bunnymumy · 03/11/2020 09:38

If this guy is 'not a bad guy' I'd be petrified of what your example of a bad guy actually is.

You need to take your daughters to the police to report the crime that has been committed against them.

In cases of domestic violence where a man grabs a womans throat, the risk of him killing them at some point is 7 times higher. He abused you and now he is abusing them. He needs to be reported and prosecuted.

Ford1 · 28/04/2021 11:30

Alys20 - can you tell me more about your experience. I am currently in a very bad custody battle with my Ex and he is trying to make me out to be a bad mother, all very personal attacks.

How long did the whole custody process take for you?

FreedomAnniversary · 28/04/2021 11:37

@Bunnymumy

If this guy is 'not a bad guy' I'd be petrified of what your example of a bad guy actually is.

You need to take your daughters to the police to report the crime that has been committed against them.

In cases of domestic violence where a man grabs a womans throat, the risk of him killing them at some point is 7 times higher. He abused you and now he is abusing them. He needs to be reported and prosecuted.

Yes, he is now 7x more likely to become a murderer. Do you want that sort of person having any influence over your children?
RandomMess · 28/04/2021 11:45

Speak to woman's aid and report his abuse of the DC to social services.

The DC need to be with you.

CombatBarbie · 28/04/2021 11:56

Well it's def neglect to not provide them with basic clothing. Is this court ordered or a private agreement. If a private agreement I would just not hand the kids back and let him take you to court and then have all CB etc in your name. If it's court ordered you need to go back to court pronto!!

A man grabbing his daughter by the throat, was this reported? If not, why not? You have a legal and moral obligation to protect your children.

citygirl200 · 28/04/2021 11:58

this is awful. is has controlling, abusive issues and is using yoru kids now to abuse. report him.

i know how you feel, i am in the same situation and trust me, i just dont entertain his drama. so when he attacks verbally which is daily i walk away. i dont reason with him and he has issues so no point. get court order

nitsandwormsdodger · 28/04/2021 14:14

You say he not a "bad guy" but he is very very emotionally and physically abusive and a terrible parent and is neglecting them
Get full custody of the kids and he should only see them in a contact centre or in the case if the ones that were throttled not at all
Get good advice
Take it
Your kids need you

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