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Anal sex

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Newmummy1234 · 30/10/2020 18:35

Blush DH and I have anal sex every now and then. I’ve just found out that you can get HPV which can then cause anal cancer. Now I’m terrified and worried. I have health anxiety so please dont comment with horror stories!!
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JinglingHellsBells · 31/10/2020 10:00

@airbags I did say RARELY. Post a link please to the info about HPV and anal sex. For the OP to see.

airbags · 31/10/2020 10:37

@JinglingHellsBells
She may not want to read it due to health anxiety but here is a link to the anal cancer foundation.
Plus, a lot of my knowledge is embedded due to my treatment and 50+ hospital appointments so far for it's management.
www.analcancerfoundation.org/anal-cancer/what-is-anal-cancer/anal-cancer-risk-factors-causes/

gamerchick · 31/10/2020 10:43

@Dullardmullard

Your meant to use condoms every time for anal and don’t double dip either as that can cause Big problems

Have a chat with someone at the Clinic to allay any worries you may have.

That's what I thought, always use a condom for anal and dont do both holes.
MonterayMoods · 31/10/2020 11:31

I hate this fetish for anal sex being promoted as just an everyday thing for women, I really do.

People often cringe about this subject for good reason IMO. In my sexual experience, I would say the occasional man who was "into" this was a total creep who hates women and likes to see them degraded on some level. They were usually into all kinds of weird porn, though often hid it. Men who show this prediliction, in my view, should be avoided. Infections are also more likely, hence one reason for the taboo, is my belief. Now its been "normalised", especially by porn, young (and older) women now feel they are not hip and cool and getting with the programme if they don't want to do this.

Of course I'll be slated here for not being "hip" and open-minded or shaming or whatever, but I don't care. The previous poster who sees sex as filling a "hole" says it all really. In my opinion her outlook is not one to be looked up to or emulated. Unfortunately these people make the loudest noise.

gamerchick · 31/10/2020 11:35

The previous poster who sees sex as filling a "hole" says it all really. In my opinion her outlook is not one to be looked up to or emulated. Unfortunately these people make the loudest noise

That better not be aimed at me Hmm I'm speaking purely from a hygiene point. I've no interest in anal sex but if people are going to do it then they need to do it as safely as possible.

As in, don't double dip. Ffs.

Meruem · 31/10/2020 12:32

I’d be more worried about potential bowel incontinence. As someone who suffers from IBS I can tell you it’s not fun! Apart from not actually wanting to, that’s the main reason I’d never have anal.

Bettereveryday1 · 31/10/2020 12:44

@MonterayMoods

I hate this fetish for anal sex being promoted as just an everyday thing for women, I really do.

People often cringe about this subject for good reason IMO. In my sexual experience, I would say the occasional man who was "into" this was a total creep who hates women and likes to see them degraded on some level. They were usually into all kinds of weird porn, though often hid it. Men who show this prediliction, in my view, should be avoided. Infections are also more likely, hence one reason for the taboo, is my belief. Now its been "normalised", especially by porn, young (and older) women now feel they are not hip and cool and getting with the programme if they don't want to do this.

Of course I'll be slated here for not being "hip" and open-minded or shaming or whatever, but I don't care. The previous poster who sees sex as filling a "hole" says it all really. In my opinion her outlook is not one to be looked up to or emulated. Unfortunately these people make the loudest noise.

It's normalised because it is normal. Stick to your piv missionary if it's not for you.
LindaEllen · 31/10/2020 12:47

[quote airbags]@mindutopia
"You are no more at risk of anal cancer than cervical and if your smear is clear, you’re likely fine. But just get yourself tested. Realistically, 80% of sexually active adult women have had HPV"

yes, over 80% of sexually active people will contract HPV at some point in their lives (strand and immunity make a huge difference).
However, the correlation with a clear smear test is not true. A clear smear just means that there are no cancerous or pre cancerous cells evident on the cervical smear. For example - I was diagnosed with anal cancer and 4 weeks later my cervical smear was clear.[/quote]
Actually, the way the smear is analysed has recently changed, meaning that rather than being tested for abnormal cells first, it's checked for HPV. If there is no HPV present, the cells aren't tested, as it's almost impossible to have cervical cancer without HPV present in a test sample. So while what you said might have been true with the old way of testing, it no longer is. I believe this changed around 2018.

Halloweenee · 31/10/2020 12:49

An awful lot of incorrect nonsense being written here. Seconding the comments about speaking to your local sexual health clinic to get some accurate advice.

I'm not going to correct all the nonsense, but -

"I don't think anal cancer as such exists (or rarely) - bowel cancer, yes. The lining of the mouth and the vagina are different cells to the rectum"

The lining of the anal canal, as opposed to the rectum, is stratified squamous epithelium. Just like the oral cavity and the cervix beyond the transformation zone. Anal cancer certainly exists as a separate entity. Best wishes to the PP who has been treated for it.

airbags · 31/10/2020 13:37

@Halloweenee

An awful lot of incorrect nonsense being written here. Seconding the comments about speaking to your local sexual health clinic to get some accurate advice.

I'm not going to correct all the nonsense, but -

"I don't think anal cancer as such exists (or rarely) - bowel cancer, yes. The lining of the mouth and the vagina are different cells to the rectum"

The lining of the anal canal, as opposed to the rectum, is stratified squamous epithelium. Just like the oral cavity and the cervix beyond the transformation zone. Anal cancer certainly exists as a separate entity. Best wishes to the PP who has been treated for it.

Thank you @Halloweenee for your best wishes. It hasn't been an easy journey and I can truly vouch that anal cancer / squamous cell carcinoma definitely exists.
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Spinachtastegud · 01/11/2020 17:53

Sorry but anal sex is not normal....that passage is a one way system Hmm

ladybee28 · 01/11/2020 18:25

@Spinachtastegud

Sorry but anal sex is not normal....that passage is a one way system Hmm
I'm guessing by 'normal' you mean 'natural'. In which case...

Contraception is not 'normal' - THAT passage is designed for baby-making.

International holidays are not 'normal' - humans weren't made to fly.

And if you do mean 'normal' as in, long-standing and widespread.... Anal sex dates back to the ancient Greeks – how many more thousand years do people need to be doing something before you consider it 'normal'?

Onxob · 01/11/2020 18:52

It's grim though really isn't it? I mean why would any man want to dip his dick in shit? I considered it with an ex, when I was young and a bit of a "cool girl" but it just fucking hurt so I aborted that mission! My husband hints at it from time to time and I'm like Hmm forget about it! I too hate that it's been normalised, I have two DDs and it fills me with dread what they're going to encounter when they're older.

Tinacollada · 01/11/2020 18:59

Oh for the love of god.

The OP isn't suggesting she's uncomfortable with anal sex.

She has health anxiety.

Giving your personal opinions about where a person should and shouldn't be penetrated - consensually is not going to help.

SixesAndEights · 01/11/2020 21:15

If you've got shit sitting inside your rectum all the time then you need to see a doctor as you're not pooing properly, and that in itself may cause problems.

whataboutbob · 01/11/2020 21:53

@TwoLeftSocksWithHoles

I'm not sure what's going on here. Confused I've led a rather sheltered life here at The Mission.but are you saying you only do IT once a year? Is that a birthday treat for one of you or is it on a specific Saint's day?
Sorry but that’s the best laugh I’ve had in a while.
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