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Irritable and occasionally shouty OH

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DressesWithPockets · 29/10/2020 20:20

My husband and I have been together 12 years, married for 7, two (planned) children. House, mortgage, no significant financial issues, secure jobs we both like. No health issues or health issues in close family or friends. We love each other to bits. I have a huge amount of respect and admiration for him. He's a good guy. He says he's got everything he could have hoped for in life.

And yet. He can be so cross and irritable and impatient and occasionally shouty. At things like: other drivers, the kids doing annoying things that are probably actually normal for their age, the way I load the dishwasher. It's normally when he's hungry or tired or something a bit stressful is happening (eg terrible weather while driving). He is never passive aggressive or really lays into any of us. But it puts me on edge and I find it tiring to be around. I try to ignore it a lot of the time because if I try to say "I'd rather you didn't shout" it often leads to a proper row, and that's obviously best to avoid in front of the kids. He always apologises afterwards and never bears a grudge.

Is this stuff normal in relationships? I'm not perfect myself and I know it. Occasionally I get overwhelmed by the exhaustion from parenting two small kids, and he is supportive. He is forgiving if I am grumpy. But I feel he's unreasonable more often than I am.

I once raised the idea of relationship counselling because it felt too much. He was surprised but said he would do it if I wanted.

Sorry if I've waffled on a bit... I'd just like an idea about what is normal in a relationship!

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MyOwnSummer · 29/10/2020 20:33

It's probably a learned behaviour, most likely from childhood. How does his dad behave? That doesn't excuse it for one second btw.

The problem here is that one person in the family feels entitled to vent their negative emotions into unpleasant behaviour with no regard for the impact on others.

Does he do this with friends, at work etc?

If not, you have your answer- he can control it but feels entitled to vent on you. That's not good.

My dad was similar, and there is a noticeable impact on children in these situations.

Muchadoaboutlife · 29/10/2020 20:51

My DH is like this and I hate it. None of my previous boyfriends were like this

DressesWithPockets · 29/10/2020 20:57

*Does he do this with friends, at work etc?

If not, you have your answer- he can control it but feels entitled to vent on you. That's not good.*

No, he doesn't. That's an interesting point.

Not sure what his dad was like when he was a kid. I'll have to ask him.

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DressesWithPockets · 29/10/2020 20:57

I clearly haven't got to grips with the thing where you make part of a PPs post in bold. How do you do that?

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MyOwnSummer · 29/10/2020 21:10

Sorry OP I have no idea on the bold text either!

It sounds like you can talk to your H honestly which is great. Habits are hard to break but a willingness to listen to you and really try would be a positive.

My dad did get somewhat better over the years as we got older and better at calling him out on it. He is also now married to someone who doesn't tolerate it, which helps. He is still inclined to occasional self centred manchild bullshit but he is miles better than he was.

Your description of your DH reminds me of other posters describing the Dressing Gown of Doom. Man gets minor illness, flounces around acting like he is at death's door and abdicating all family responsibilities. Its a similar theme. Entitlement to act as they please, and let the other adult in the house pick up all the slack, deal with the fallout.

MyOwnSummer · 29/10/2020 21:14

@Muchadoaboutlife sorry to hear you are in the same boat... is he receptive to a conversation about it?

that1970shouse · 29/10/2020 21:26

@DressesWithPockets

I clearly haven't got to grips with the thing where you make part of a PPs post in bold. How do you do that?
If you start a new paragraph, the bold cancels itself. So you have to put the asterisk at the start and end of each paragraph.
stout · 29/10/2020 21:45

Soundd like my Dad when we were growing up. Never meant anything by it but also didn't realise the resentment it causes (to this day and I'm 40!)

LemonGreen · 29/10/2020 21:50

Is he a bit of a control freak? Not in terms of controlling you but liking things to be a certain way and that's what irritates him?

I say this because he sounds like me Blush For me it stems from control issues, which feed into anxiety issues. I also don't shout at other people outside the home because of the anxiety/fear of public opinion so home is my safe space where I can vent freely. Not fun for my family either...

Arrivederla · 29/10/2020 21:52

I wouldn't worry about whether this is "normal" or not. It's making you feel on edge and worried enough to post about it on here; it's impacting on your happiness in other words.

He's made it difficult for you to bring it up by flying off the handle when you do. If I were you I would pack dc off to grandparents (if possible) and really have it out with him. Less tiptoeing around him and more really letting him see how you feel!

Aquamarine1029 · 29/10/2020 21:58

Is this stuff normal in relationships?

Not in healthy ones, no, and I would never tolerate being shouted at. I've been married 20+ years and my husband and I have never shouted at each other. It's rude and completely counterproductive. I'd be asking him who he thinks he is, honestly. Your warden? He's treating you like an unruly child and even then his shouting isn't acceptable. You're walking on eggshells in your own home for fear of him kicking off. That's simply a ridiculous way to live.

It would be ultimatum time for me. He either learns to control himself and manage his emotions or he can fuck off.

billy1966 · 30/10/2020 00:05

No it's not normal nor healthy.

It's shit.

It ensures that your children will have an anxious, stressful childhood walking on eggshells 'cos they will never know when he will go off.

The teenage years have yet to hit.

Deal with it or get out.

It won't fix itself.

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DressesWithPockets · 30/10/2020 17:23

Thank you for all your thoughts. I don't think we're at ultimatum point yet, but we clearly do need to talk. I'm well aware that I'm not perfect myself and am not always in total control of my own emotions. I do think though that I generally make an effort not to be angry in front of the kids and it's far less often. Whereas he can be unbearably irritable for no obvious reason fairly frequently. Hmm.

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DressesWithPockets · 30/10/2020 17:25

@Muchadoaboutlife

My DH is like this and I hate it. None of my previous boyfriends were like this
Not just me then. How have you approached it/dealt with it?
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category12 · 30/10/2020 17:42

I think it's good news he's open to going to counselling. i would do that, as it shows him how seriously you're taking it. I think being treated like this will gradually erode your love for him, while, for him, getting away with treating you poorly may turn into contempt.

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