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being nice may not have been right after all!

51 replies

gaiusmoham2 · 25/10/2020 16:34

I posted on here some months back about my ex. Short story is we were together, drifted, she went off with an atypical 'bad boy' and got pregnant, I went on to continue building my life. Contact made about six months ago, she was left high and dry with kid, I have a much better life position (home owner, good job 50kish pa). She tried to engineer a rekindling (I suspect) I had no desire to bring back someone who left me esp. if I have to raise some other blokes kid. That goes double since I know the bloke and I wouldn't trust him to raise a spoon to his mouth, let alone a child.

So anyway, I am now in a relationship, early days but all going well. My birthday was a few weeks back. Me and my gf are over my place, having a nice meal and bottle of bubbly. Calm, low key evening which is what I like. Get a knock at the door. I go to answer it, it's the ex!!

Now I never gave her my address or phone number and after our email exchanges has extricated. No contact between us for several months. Turns out she had got my address from a friend (lied to him, said she had stuff to return) and decides to rock up with a pressie, 'dressed to impress'.

I ask her what the hell she is doing, she says she wanted to see me on my bday! GF comes to door just as ex is asking to come in. Not pleasant.

In short, I tell ex never to contact me again, never to come to address again and let her have both barrels saying I don't want her back, she chose some stoner waster over me and now he has gone she wants me to help raise his kid, which she will need help with if he has inherited his father's trash genetics re pot smoking and inability to hold employment! All over but the sobbing, door slam, done.

I then had to tell my new gf the whole story. Luckily I had retained all the emails and completely laid it all bare to her. She saw I had not encouraged anything, had been polite but basically done a mini Grey Rock on the ex. I then had to explain all the previous, the waster, her leaving etc.

Luckily, gf was very understanding, it ruined the night unsurprisingly but we have moved forward. I think it'll be casting a shadow on our relationship a while though.

I have shut down my old email after a day of moving my PayPal, eBay etc.

How do I reassure my gf that the ex will be no more trouble moving forward? I think the fact she left me, the gf is thinking I may have some lingering love there (defo don't). Beyond that, when it comes to these matteri encourage anyone male or female to not try to be nice but just be blunt!

OP posts:
Furbs · 25/10/2020 18:22

The way you've spoken about an innocent child loses you all credibility in the "nice" department. She's been a bit of an idiot, you're a bit of a knob. Sounds like you're both (and certainly that child) are better off without.

ReneeRol · 25/10/2020 19:00

I think you made it very clear that you have no interest in your ex so I don't see why your girlfriend would need to be reassured.

Your ex was very stalkery, intrusive and manipulative so I think a strong reaction was necessary to ensure she never tried anything like that again.

P999 · 25/10/2020 20:56

If i were your gf, i would dump you for the nasty reaction. Sounds like the ex wounded your ego and you hold a nasty grudge.

shartsi · 25/10/2020 21:31

I agree with your actions OP. You don't owe her niceness . I don't understand why people are such formats!

shartsi · 25/10/2020 21:31

*door mats

Dollyrocket · 25/10/2020 21:38

You come across like a bit of a prick (understatement..)Hmm

chickenyhead · 25/10/2020 21:44

Why does she want you back? I don't get it.

I wouldn't want someone back who never allowed me to know his address.

Yet your new gf does?

Simply not believing that.

CheshireChat · 25/10/2020 22:03

It sounds suspiciously like all those "nice guys"- 'oh, women only want bad boys' Halloween Envy

Notcoolmum · 25/10/2020 23:10

You sound SO nice.

Greeneyes78 · 26/10/2020 06:58

Christ on a bike, some of these replies. Op, always post as a woman, men are not liked here.

Had your ex been a make you would have been applauded and given a pat on the back.

Don’t worry about new girlfriend, hope it works out for you.

Greeneyes78 · 26/10/2020 06:58

*male

anniversarywoes · 26/10/2020 07:01

If I was your new girlfriend I'd be running for the hills after the way you spoke about the babies 'trash genetics'
You sound awful.

Frdd · 26/10/2020 07:01

How was she your gf if she didn’t know your address?

TurkMama · 26/10/2020 07:05

@Greeneyes78

Christ on a bike, some of these replies. Op, always post as a woman, men are not liked here.

Had your ex been a make you would have been applauded and given a pat on the back.

Don’t worry about new girlfriend, hope it works out for you.

Err no, if a woman posted with that language she'd still be called out on it Confused
Porridgeoat · 26/10/2020 07:09

You’re a bit harsh on the poor innocent child. No need to slag the child off.

It sounds a very intense emotive discussion on the door which is why your DG thinks there’s more to it.

You would have been better off explaining things kindly to your ex like a grown up would. So ex understands but it’s done in a clear and unhurtful way.

You sound hurt by what went on previously and so it’s clearly not water under the bridge. You’re not over the experience and are still to process it

Limpid · 26/10/2020 07:15

@BumBurnerBum

Pretty horrific what you said about your ex's new baby's inherited tendencies. How nice exactly do you think you were? Confused
Yes, that was a thoroughly repulsive thing to say. If your new girlfriend has any sense, she’ll be off ASAP.
corythatwas · 26/10/2020 08:04

If my son took up with a woman who referred to her ex's child as having trash genetics, I'd hope he had the sense to run for the hills.

bibliomania · 26/10/2020 08:04

If a woman came on here saying she,'d said those things about someone else's baby, no way would she have got an easier ride, at least from most posters.

Sakurami · 26/10/2020 08:15

That's you being nice?

I also don't understand the ott blocking , hiding you address etc before the turned up, unless I've missed something

martysouth · 26/10/2020 08:21

Your ex girlfriend (who has a baby) turned up at your house unexpectedly, without the baby and 'dressed to impress?'

This sounds like something from East Enders

AfterSchoolWorry · 26/10/2020 08:28

@TeaStory

Sounds like a “Nice Guy”/incel creative writing exercise to me.
Yep.
ChristmasFluff · 26/10/2020 08:37

Man or woman, if someone acted like that to their ex, I'd be out of there. There are clearly still feelings involved in spite of your protestations.

The opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference.

The ex-abuser stalked me, and I would now simply shut the door and phone the Police, just as I always did - except I'd use the non-emergency number now. I strongly recommend that approach.

People like your gf are well aware that a negative response is still an emotional response. She'll keep on trying while you keep on reacting.

IncandescentSilver · 26/10/2020 10:31

You forgot to include the part of your story about moving house so your ex didn't know your new address.

4/10

LavaCake · 26/10/2020 10:51

You don’t sound nice at all - a nice person doesn’t say shitty things like that about a baby who can’t help being in the situation. If I heard you say those things it would be enough to make me rethink a relationship with you.

tenlittlecygnets · 26/10/2020 10:56

Oof. You were pretty horrible to your ex and her baby.

If I were your new gf, I'd be thinking this was too much drama. I'd be out.

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