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Husband went out even though son was ill

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Sara0512 · 16/10/2020 19:41

Yesterday I collected DS from school he was feeling run down, was sniffy and had a temperature. I kept an eye on him, checked his temperature etc. Just before dinner he started vomiting a lot just water and phlegm (sorry for all the details). He was coughing and had a high temperature by then.
Husband was going out (he had told me previously with 2 guys from work). Nothing important just a couple of people he knows well. I asked him to stay at home in case we needed to take our son to the hospital.
He was sharp and said you have a car parked outside you can take him yourself. He did not hang around just told our son he would be back in one hour.
I had a difficult night with our son coughing, running a temperature and restless all night. I slept with him to look after him and comfort him.
Husband left at 5.30pm and did not get back until midnight. We live overseas and he had gone only 20mins away to a hotel/bar.
In the morning I found a message from a woman at work on his phone saying "Of course X I wish you stayed longer... " I had gone to mute his phone so he could sleep. All other messages between them had been deleted. I was raging when I saw the message in the morning.
I said to him in the afternoon we needed to talk. He said what about. I said to him he told me he was going to see these 2 guys and what was going on with Helen. He started shouting at me straight away saying what can he do if she was there as well .. He kept shouting why was I whining about it and that was the end of the conversation. It was not a long exchange. I did not say anything as our son was lying on the couch in the living room and he had been running a high temperature all day. My priority is our son and making sure he get better. He gets aggressive and shouts at me if he wants to bully me.

What would you do? We live overseas and I have no family support where we are and very few friends I am comfortable talking to.

OP posts:
Fortunategirl · 16/10/2020 21:26

Oh shit.
What’s your options? Can you go see a specialist lawyer who knows about this stuff? Is his job time limited anyway? You don’t want to be in the Middle East as a single woman surely? Would he agree to you moving back?

Talia99 · 16/10/2020 22:08

The best bet if you want to get your son back to the UK is to wait until you go back to the UK ‘for a holiday’ and then not return (if this is legal). You need legal advice before doing anything or you could find yourself back in the U.K. with your son in Dubai. I think that since that’s where the family reside, that’s where custody will be determined. I have no idea what the rules are but I know some countries in the Middle East automatically award custody to the father.

FunTimes2020 · 16/10/2020 22:17

@OverTheRainbow88

Shouldn’t he be isolating until a negative test result?
Hmm
Notjustabrunette · 16/10/2020 22:36

Could you stay with family until your tenants move out? Be prepared for them not to leave until their tenancy is up.
On the leaving the country front, do you have any trips home planned? It difficult at the moment I know.

Skysblue · 16/10/2020 22:48

I’m so sorry OP. I guess leaving middle east if husband doesn’t want you to is probably v v hard. Also in any country, it is very difficult for one parent to change the child’s country of residence without the other partner agreeing. Something about neither parent being able to unilaterally change the child’s country of habitual residence. Steps I might take in your position...

  • Create a new email account that husband does not know exists. Use this email address to get legal advice from a family law solicitor in your home country who can tell you your legal options re getting your son out. I do not know if there will be any.
  • Possibly try to negotiate that you (with or without husband) go on holiday with son. Then from that third country abscond with son to your home country. This may not be a long term solution tho as I suspect your husband might have a solid child abduction case against you. However this could buy you some time while court case goes through system / time to negotiate with husband to just let you both go.
RainingBatsAndFrogs · 16/10/2020 23:26

There was a MNer last year who fled a man in the ME with the same Visa set up.

Is your son a UK citizen? Are you? If so play it cool, plan a trip home on a return ticket, just you and your son...and don’t go back.

Sara0512 · 17/10/2020 06:04

We have been using separate sections of the house because of covid to be safe for a good while now because of our jobs since school started.

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IHateCoronavirus · 17/10/2020 06:28

If he’s having an affair and living in the Middle East, he is playing with fire!

Onadifferentuniverse · 17/10/2020 06:38

Oh op this is awful.

As above, is your son a uk citizen?

MsTSwift · 17/10/2020 06:39

Jesus he basically went on a date in plain sight!

Charlieeee76 · 17/10/2020 06:47

22 years yikes OP.

Do you actually what to leave though?
Do you have family in the UK you can talk things over with?

Mella91 · 17/10/2020 06:59

you say the minute you leave he will know?

What is the issue? Will he 'force' you back? is there violence involved?

sueperb74 · 17/10/2020 07:13

the issue for me would def have been my husband leaving when my son was sick. I wouldn't have let him back in. screw me over, fine but not give a shit about my child!? I'd be raging. you will be doing the right thing leaving him. utter arsehole. Good luck

InTheLongGrass · 17/10/2020 07:32

I agree with those saying he's checked out of the relationship, and leaving would be the right plan HOWEVER please be very careful not to get yourself in a mess of removing your son from the country he currently calls home. It can end you up in a whole host of problems, and unfortunately your husband would be seen to be in the right to have his son returned to the current country. You may also find yourself unable to get a Visa into the country to see your son - depends exactly which country you are in.

GreyGoose1980 · 17/10/2020 07:55

OP
Are you and your son UK citizens? If so could you come back on ‘holiday‘ and just not return? Do you have family you could stay with?

sunnysunshine40 · 17/10/2020 08:06

Oh OP I'm sorry to hear you're in this situation. Your husband sounds like a complete 💩 Do what you need to do to get out. A pp listed all the things you need to do. Could you contact an embassy to help you out? Flowers

RainingBatsAndFrogs · 17/10/2020 08:14

Is your H a UK citizen?

If you are in Dubai and you are all UK citizens I doubt very much whether if you came here he could manage to get your Ds back to the ME.

TweeBree · 17/10/2020 08:41

OP, you need to get out of there, ASAP. Do you have any family in the UK you can stay with temporarily? Can you feign a family emergency for you and your son to fly here? Then use Covid as an excuse not to return right away.

mamaoffourdc · 17/10/2020 08:50

Going out when son is ill is fine - he is right it doesn't take 2 people
Going out to meet another woman - wrong!

Amanda87 · 17/10/2020 09:01

Don't be afraid of getting outta this even if you're abroad. If respect is no longer served, just grab your kid and come back to your country. There's always room to start over. Do not allow anyone treat you like that, specially the one that should respect you the most!

Notjustabrunette · 17/10/2020 16:01

I can guess which country you are in from what you have described. I know it’s not Dubai, but there are some very helpful ladies there who have lived around the ME and left successfully. I would suggest joining the FB group British mums Dubai and posting an anonymous post asking if anyone can be of any help. There any even be a version of in the country you are in. You will not be the first or last to be in this predicament, I’m sure someone will have some practical advice for you.

carly2803 · 17/10/2020 20:55

@Talia99

The best bet if you want to get your son back to the UK is to wait until you go back to the UK ‘for a holiday’ and then not return (if this is legal). You need legal advice before doing anything or you could find yourself back in the U.K. with your son in Dubai. I think that since that’s where the family reside, that’s where custody will be determined. I have no idea what the rules are but I know some countries in the Middle East automatically award custody to the father.
thsi ^

look at the legal side and get the F back to the UK

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