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How far should I go offering help to neighbour?

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bellylaughs · 10/10/2020 15:20

A couple of weeks ago I picked up a very drunk woman who I found lying on the ground outside my house at midnight. My husband and I eventually got out of her that she lived further down the same road.

She wasn’t very coherent but didn’t want to go home. At the time I thought she was being drunk and a bit difficult but when her husband came to the door, he politely thanked us, brought her in then started shouting at her. (Not hitting her, we could see from outside). I didn’t feel there was much I could do at the time as it wasn’t exactly bad enough to get police involved.

Now it turns out she is new to the road and has asked to join the road whatsapp which I run. That’s all fine, I’ve sent her a welcome message and I explained that I was the person that brought her home. (I didn’t want to keep this from her, but also don’t want to embarrass her so tried to put it breezily) she thanked me and apologised and said all was not as it seemed and she’d like to explain “one day”. I replied saying absolutely no need to apologise or explain but if she ever wanted a chat I’m always happy to meet for a coffee. I didn’t mention the DH and she probably doesn’t know I witnessed the screaming.

Should I offer more in terms of telling her I was concerned about her or should I leave it at the vague offer of a coffee. I feel if she does need help and she doesn’t realise I saw it then she won’t be inclined to ask if that makes sense.

Maybe you’ll say, it’s not a big deal and stay out of it but it was quite upsetting to see a really, really drunk woman getting balled out of it by her husband.

I work with teens who have lived with DV so I’m familiar with a lot of the training around it. Just not sure how far to go in a non-urgent situation. Don’t want to embarrass her but at the same time want to let her know I’m there if she needs help.

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Aquamarine1029 · 10/10/2020 15:22

I think you should stay out of it unless she comes to you for advice or support.

Floralnomad · 10/10/2020 15:25

I would MYOB , unless you like inserting yourself into other peoples drama I think you’ve already gone beyond what a normal neighbour would do by offering a ‘chat and coffee ‘ to a complete stranger .

Spritesobright · 10/10/2020 15:47

You sound very kind and caring and she's lucky to have you as a neighbour. She has your number and you've already mentioned a coffee so perhaps leave it there for now but stay friendly so that she has that option open. It's great that she opened up as much as she did but maybe let it rest for a bit.
She's probably embarrassed and doesn't want to overshare/overburden. She'll have to do it at her own pace.
Some harsh comments above from posters who apparently think myob is more important than helping vulnerable neighbours.
Thank god not everyone is like that.

MrsRogerLima · 10/10/2020 15:50

Missing the point but road whatsapp?

That sounds like my worst nightmare. Bit of a curtain twitcher are we op?

Fortunategirl · 10/10/2020 15:52

Stay out of it unless you witness more or she comes to you specifically

Nicolastuffedone · 10/10/2020 15:54

Maybe he was shouting because this is a regular occurrence and he’s at the end of his tether......keep out.

shesgonebatshitagain · 10/10/2020 15:54

One of the following

  • it was a one off he was incredibly embarrassed and pissed of that she went out and got that drunk. It’s not unheard of to have a row about it or shoot at the posted person.
  • she’s an alcoholic and does this a lot you’ve just never noticed it. There will be all sorts going on there if that’s the case
  • she is in a man abusive relationship

Not sure how you will find out which it is but I would not get too involved at this stage until you know more and if she asks for help or you see / hear him being violent towards her.

I certainly would not discuss with other neighbours unless you trust them implicitly

shesgonebatshitagain · 10/10/2020 15:55

Shout. Not shoot

SBTLove · 10/10/2020 15:57

Reverse this, if you found her DH lying drink and helped him home and she shouted at him would you be worrying he was abused?
Men are allowed to be pissed off with their paralytic spouse.

Cabinfever10 · 10/10/2020 16:00

So she was so drunk that she was lying on the ground outside your house and was incoherent and had to be taken home by you (a complete stranger) wow.
Thats not the sort of person I would want to be around and if it's something she does regularly whilst not great i can understand why her husband was shouting. Anything could have happened to her and fear doesn't always bring out the best in people.
Honestly I'd be more worried about her drinking than her husband

bellylaughs · 10/10/2020 16:02

@MrsRogerLima

Missing the point but road whatsapp?

That sounds like my worst nightmare. Bit of a curtain twitcher are we op?

I set up the road Whatsapp at the start of lockdown and neighbours have used it primarily for helping each other when they’re self isolating/elderly etc. I’ve also used it to ask people for donations to the foodbank which I collect for on the road (the foodbank asked me to do this).

I’m staggered in this day and age when i thought kindness was becoming (thankfully) more of a priority, people should think having a road WhatsApp was curtain twitching Hmm

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Floralnomad · 10/10/2020 16:03

@Spritesobright how do you know she’s vulnerable , all we know is she was so drunk she was incoherent and had fallen over in the street and her partner shouted at her . If you were that woman would you be wanting to discuss things with a neighbour whom you had only met once whilst in that condition ? I actually don’t think the OP should even have mentioned taking her home because if it were me I’d now be embarrassed whereas before she was in blissful ignorance of who had picked her up .

bellylaughs · 10/10/2020 16:04

Thank you to everyone else for the constructive advice. I’ll leave it as you say, I’ve done enough. Just needed some perspective, thanks Smile

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Monstermissy36 · 10/10/2020 16:05

I would stay out of it...

My neighbour is a alcoholic young women whom I feel so sad for and regularly scoop her off my doorstep to take home. The police often welfare check her and she does engage in some support.

It's an area I work in and as much as I'd like to do more she's literally just too close to home.

bellylaughs · 10/10/2020 16:08

[quote Floralnomad]@Spritesobright how do you know she’s vulnerable , all we know is she was so drunk she was incoherent and had fallen over in the street and her partner shouted at her . If you were that woman would you be wanting to discuss things with a neighbour whom you had only met once whilst in that condition ? I actually don’t think the OP should even have mentioned taking her home because if it were me I’d now be embarrassed whereas before she was in blissful ignorance of who had picked her up .[/quote]
The only reason I told her it was me was that her husband asked what number we lived at so there’s a possibility she could already know it’s me and therefore it weird to not say anything.

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EssentialHummus · 10/10/2020 16:11

We have road WhatsApps for our neighbourhood, mainly used for trades advice, missing cats, offers of free items and similar. Nothing sinister about it.

I don't know, OP. Wait and see for the moment, is what I'd do.

Fifthtimelucky · 10/10/2020 16:14

We also have a road WhatsApp group (small cul de sac with just over 20 houses). There are only four houses not in the group I think (all older people who don't use WhatsApp).

It is very useful for passing on news about local things or asking questions, especially these days. Last few posts have been from people offering spare damsons and apples, and letting us know that the car park nearby was going to be used as a temporary Covid testing station.

Dery · 10/10/2020 16:32

@bellylaughs - we also have a road WhatsApp. I think it’s a nice thing to have. As for this woman, like others, I don’t think you should jump to the conclusion that there’s DV going on here. Some families are more shouty than others (we are one). Things sound pretty desperate if she was falling over drunk in the street and it’s perhaps not surprising that her husband was angry and upset about this. But there may be DV and even if not, she’s new to the street and it’s a kindness to offer a coffee and a chat anyway. So I think you’ve done the right things so far but I don’t think there’s really anything else you can do at the moment.

bellylaughs · 10/10/2020 18:49

@Dery thanks, I agree

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ReneeRol · 10/10/2020 21:26

It must be very frustrating to be married to an alcoholic who passes out in the street. You don't know what her husband has to deal with. You helped this woman for one minute. He lives with her 24/7. It's unfair and presumptuous to accuse him of abuse for yelling at her. He could be on his last nerve dealing with this.

Fionasmammy · 11/10/2020 06:28

Whatsapp: great
Taking her home: very very kind
Telling her it was you: that was good, blacking out that you dont know how you got home is not blissful ignorance its scary and makes you paranoiad. Its decent you told her and in that tone. Her husband saw you anyway and doesnt strike me as the sort to sheild her by hiding that you took her home.

You know what you saw, trust your guts. People who drink that much have a huge amount of despair and pain that they self harm with alcohol just to get some temporary relief and escape. I dont think that means shes an alcoholic from that one incident she might have troubled relation with alcohol.she may have had her drink spiked.
I wouldnt say anything more about it to her or others because there are services she could access you cant drag her out of a dv relationship. She has to do it for herself.

Jayaywhynot · 11/10/2020 09:14

Road WhatsApp is not wierd, we have a road fb group, someone started it during lockdown so we could offer support, keep an eye out for the elderly/shielding.
You did the right thing helping her op and letting her know it was you

user1481840227 · 17/10/2020 04:48

As someone who had an ex who was a problem drinker there were many occasions I shouted at him when he came home/was dragged home/dropped at the door....and so on.

He also never wanted to go home lol
Problem drinkers generally don't once they've had a drink!

SimplyRadishing · 17/10/2020 05:36

You sound kind but she sounds like she may have a drinking problem!!!

It may be missing some colour but Dv was not my first thought reading your post. I felt sorry for her husband dealing with that kind of thing.

It may be something else or a one time thing but whatever it is, it is not normal.
I would approach with caution.
Good neighbourly relations are important but familiarity does breed contempt. i keep on friendly but not overly close terms with our neighbours.

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