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Crazy online dating experience. Long. Please help.

172 replies

Passmethechocolatecake · 29/09/2020 14:35

I came across the most mental person on online dating and it’s almost broken me.

Flash back to March and I match with a man on Tinder. His conversation doesn’t grab me as he seems to be only interested in talking about himself and I’m talking with a few people so don’t reply very often. He’s very persistent. Double messaging and when I eventually lie and tell him I don’t go on there very often he asks for my number. I will forever regret this but I gave it to him thinking that I’d faze him out.

To my surprise after a few weeks of not really replying to him I decided to give him a chance and we really clicked. Still turns everything around to talk about himself but I can handle it somewhat.

Then I discover he’s manipulative. Words things to make you think he’s not actually single/interested in dating other people and when I asked about it told me I was crazy and of course that’s not what he meant. This was a running theme. When I mentioned I had been asked on a date by someone else he went mad. Telling me I’d probably like them more than him and how could he know I wouldn’t sleep with them..

He was in constant contact.. when we weren’t arguing. We’d go through periods of blocking each other but a few weeks later he’d be back. Either really cold or very sorry. I was Ill for a few days so starting going to bed at nine and I got told ‘that I always go quiet at that time’ the insinuation being that I was sleeping with other people. This insinuation happened a lot and I’d have to reassure him. If I ever said that wasn’t normal it would suddenly turn into ‘I was joking.. you’ve taken it the wrong way’. That’s not true.. he very much wasn’t joking.

I started becoming a nervous wreck every time the phone beeped. I never knew what was coming next. Some of the lengths he went to to make me jealous were insane. Telling me his housemate wanted him to be her surrogate.. all sorts.

Anyway, flash forward to the other night and we were arguing and he said something particularly nasty and I snapped. I just snapped. I wanted him to block me and never come back. So I told him I was in bed with my ex. I’m not proud of this but he’s made me feel like I’m losing my mind. It was awful. He asked me to go to him right now. It was two in the morning and he lives an hour away. Telling me he’d never do anything like that to me and he was very very very hurt. That I’d destroyed him. That he needed to go out for a walk for headspace and he wanted to throw himself in front of a train. That he could not cope with the thought of my ex being there with me.

The next day we talked somewhat and he’d try to be normal but would then make nasty comments and when asked to stop would say things like ‘I’m not taking jabs at you, maybe that’s the guilt talking, the guilt that you fucked your ex’.

Then he told me that he was in contact with his ex and maybe wanted to get back with her. Then the next morning told me that wasn’t happening. Then he blocked me. I’m scared he’s going to come back... how likely is it!? Can somebody talk to me. I never even met this man! It’s all become so normal that I think I’m not recognising how batshit it is.

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SBTLove · 29/09/2020 17:16

@CleverCatty
Have you not heard of revenge porn???

Princessposie · 29/09/2020 17:17

What a waste of your lifetime OP.

TwentyViginti · 29/09/2020 17:17

how can he use nude/sexual pics of her against her?

I wrote threaten to use against her. OP seems quite naive, and had she answered yes, she would have received appropriate advice here.

Passmethechocolatecake · 29/09/2020 17:18

It’s not a wind up! It’s real and I have not embellished anything. In fact, I’ve played it down if anything.

Yes we sent each other nudes and sexted. He is into some very strange stuff sexually. I don’t think he’d do anything with them though.

He has threatened suicide a few times. I know he’s on very strong anti depressants and self harms. Partly why I struggled arguing with him. There were a couple of times where he would say something like ‘I’ll just go jump in front of a train then’ but when I’d tell him that wasn’t ok at a later date he’d say he hadn’t meant because of me.

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Aerial2020 · 29/09/2020 17:18

@Passmethechocolatecake

He sent me his rota unprovoked because work kept giving him a lot of hours and he was getting angry at it. It was in a ‘look at this shit’ kind of way.

I’m struggling because I know it’s mental. I’ve known it was mental from the beginning but that doesn’t change the fact that for some bizarre reason I still liked him and hoped if we met the insanity would work itself out. I need to work on this. I know I probably need counselling.

What I liked about him... we had a lot in common. He was very, I don’t know how to put it, raw all the time and I grew to like that. I thought it was mental at first.

BUT YOU'VE NEVER MET HIM!!!
BadDucks · 29/09/2020 17:19

Sounds like you quite enjoyed the drama and the ridiculous mental arguments with a stranger. I don’t think you are posting for advice to be honest I think as he’s blocked you you need another outlet to continue the saga. I think you definitely need some counselling you sound very lonely.

Passmethechocolatecake · 29/09/2020 17:22

Yes I need counselling. I know that. I’m answering questions. I can’t pretend I’m not slightly concerned about the pictures I sent.

More than anything I needed to be told that it was insane. It started to feel more and more normal as time went on.

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StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 29/09/2020 17:24

How much energy have you used on a man youve never met? Such a waste of your precious life.

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 29/09/2020 17:26

Well just read your update. Id be reading up on what constitutes Revenge porn since it is a crime now. (Isnt it?)

Savemyusername · 29/09/2020 17:26

What’s your relationship history op? Do you have any friends?

It is unhealthy that you are so attached to him And I wonder if you struggle with relationships in general.

nolovelost · 29/09/2020 17:34

He's a nutter, and you entertained it. Block him and leave him blocked!

Bluntness100 · 29/09/2020 17:44

Op, I mean this gently but you need to pick up the phone and speak to your gp and get some help. To engage in this behaviour with a complete stranger, someone you’ve never even met, is really unhealthy.

I am guessing lonely ness was at the base of this? But this is really damaging risky behaviour, to be sending this man nudes, to be engaging like this, it’s so unhealthy.

Just pick up the phone, I don’t know what’s caused you to engage like this, but you need help I think.

Harrykanesrightsock · 29/09/2020 17:45

Is his name Wayne?

WellQualifiedToRepresentTheLBC · 29/09/2020 17:46

@Passmethechocolatecake bless you OP. You've had a very shit time. You've clearly been extremely isolated and it's affected your MH over time, this guy has latched onto you and you've not yet found the strength and clarity to kick him into touch.

You will though. Look, he is a headworker and there are a lot of them about. It's very common for men with poor social skills to get mixed up with women who feel a bit sorry for them, it can get really complicated and, unfortunately, we are social animals, we get attached to each other, even when it's not healthy.

That's what's happened here. It doesn't matter whose fault it is, etc., it has happened, and you're going to need to sort it so that you don't end up in a domino effect situation where he actually ruins your life over time.

Do you have people in your life who you can reach out to?
I'm talking anyone at all, any kind of social contact. Do you have a couple of acquaintances who would be game to watch a box set episode with you on a Wednesday evening on Zoom, can you phone your mum on a Monday, etc., remote glass of wine with best friend/sister/cousin/etc on Fridays? Basically, can you set up a schedule of any social contact so that you are talking to someone each day? It will help a lot.

Right now this guy has wormed his way into what sounds like a very lonely existence for you, and he needs weeding out and replacing with folk who want the best for you.

Nanny0gg · 29/09/2020 17:58

@Passmethechocolatecake

I liked talking to him. Some of the time.
That's not good enough. Really it's not.

Even if we're just talking friendship.

Passmethechocolatecake · 29/09/2020 17:59

Thank you everyone and Bluntness, I’ve been trying to get the nerve to phone the gp for a while. I’ll pick up the phone tomorrow morning and do it. If anything this thread has shown me it’s that I need to.

I do have people, granted not as many as I used to due to moving but I have family. A few friends I can talk to. I’m friends with my ex and see him regularly to. There was something about this man. It was like I could see bits of myself, the bad bits, in him and wanted to help him. It feels like it’s taken me away with it though.

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Givemeabreak88 · 29/09/2020 18:00

I agree with some of the other posters, that you are loving the drama and just want to obsess about it A bit more, I bet If he contacted you tonight you would be back chatting again.

About ten years ago I use to chat to a man on msn (old school!) I thought we were just friends at least I made that clear to him, we would talk most days and sometimes for hours, one day I told him I was pregnant and he was extremely rude to me (he had previously always been really nice) so I blocked him and never spoke to him again, he then found me on Facebook and messaged me when my baby was a few months old which I found really weird as I never gave him my name and we had no friends in common but I just blocked him and never responded, seems a bit like you like the attention/drama

Passmethechocolatecake · 29/09/2020 18:00

Also not Wayne, there really is a few of them!

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Suzi888 · 29/09/2020 18:20

He has threatened suicide a few times. I know he’s on very strong anti depressants and self harms. Partly why I struggled arguing with him.

It feels like it’s taken me away with it though.

You two are not good for each other. You need to see your GP and so does he.

Heyahun · 29/09/2020 18:35

OMG why are have you contributed talking to this guy for so long? Wasting time arguing with essentially a stranger - change your number if blocking really isn’t working ! Move on - such a waste of time and energy

PeppaPrick · 29/09/2020 18:39

I'm glad you're going to give your GP a call, please do! I think some counselling will help you see what we have all been saying a bit clearer so that it hopefully won't happen again.

Please also reach out to some of your friends/family for company etc, I can see how isolation and loneliness can make you seek a bit of solace elsewhere but this STRANGER you have been chatting to and who you've never met sounds dangerous. If he needs someone to help him, it's not you, you are not in the right place to be 'helping' someone who to many of us who have commented so far find disturbing, that is a job for a professional psychiatrist imo.

It's very unhealthy to try and start/ build a relationship/ friendship because you want to 'save' someone, the reality of that is it never works. It's all very one sided and then you find yourself with more problems than what you started with which is counterproductive for someone who is maybe lonely or vulnerable etc.

If you are lonely or need some support or guidance with your MH etc you can even chat here. There people here who can point you in the right direction for various resources which can maybe help you recognise for yourself where you are at the moment and what might help you.

peachyglowX · 29/09/2020 18:49

Your letting him behave like this. It does seem like you enjoy it, or you'd block this stranger and move on. 🚩

Ohdear101 · 29/09/2020 19:01

Block him on everything and stick to it

bigbumbiggerheart · 29/09/2020 19:03

Block then ignore.

Ignore EVERY message - never reply - he will get bored.

If you reply he will continue and you will be partly to blame.

Ohdear101 · 29/09/2020 19:04

By the way he seems dangerous.

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