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Please help me do better

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HolyFuckingCuntBalls · 19/09/2020 00:00

Name changed but long time poster. Naice ham, cancel the cheque, penis beaker etc. Should probably be posting in AIBU but feeling a bit fragile and need some advice / how not to be such a horrible bitch. It’s complicated and I’ll try not to make it too long but also don’t want to drip feed.

3 young kids, one with special needs. They don’t see their dad. Remarried 4 years ago. H has two adult children that live with us, DSC1 and DSC2. DSC1 is 28. They have a part time job. DSC2 is 26 and unemployed. Seven people in a house is obviously a lot so we had some work that started just after Christmas. Was meant to be done by the end of March but then the world kind of broke. H had moved out just before lockdown, partially because we were shuffling bedrooms and kids and partially because the stress of building work was hard for him. He was sent home on full pay in Feb when things were looking dodgy, furloughed in March, then lost his job in May. I’m working 2 jobs to keep us going. It’s grand but I obviously can’t keep it up indefinitely. Main job is full time and full on. Not a front line worker but think supporting service and I’m senior so on emergency committees etc.

We’re however many months into COVID and I am exhausted. House is nearly done but two of the kids are still sharing a bedroom with me. H is still living with a friend, 15 minutes down the road. Everything was left to me during lockdown to the extent I still had to go out and get shopping despite being on the cocooning list. I had to homeschool the kids which was a complete fucking shit show and a one stage had no hot water, heating or a bed of my own. It’s better now but still getting there in terms of the house. H comes round most days. He will complain about the house, my weight (I’ve put on a stone and a half since March - was already over weight so it’s not great I get that) that I’ve not done enough to help the kids with school work. He complains about money constantly stating I’m not doing enough to cut back but then bought himself a brand new Sky Sports package. Our bank account went overdrawn this morning so I moved some of the money from one of our accounts to cover it. Got a shitty message from H moments later asking why I had cleared the overdraft using his money and why hadn’t I asked him first? Thing is, he claims everything I earn is his, insisted that I am paid into an account he has access to and scrutinised all my spending. I bought the kids a (small, cheap, discount coded to kingdom come) takeaway (first one in 4 months) the other week as 3 of them had birthdays and literally 5 minutes after making the transaction I got a message saying “Takeaway for dinner?” and then a barrage of stuff, literally paragraphs of texts telling me how bad with money I am and how selfish I am and how he thinks I’m spending money on myself and hiding it from him. (I’m not - I’m only spending on essentials and seriously - he accused me of buying make up the other week when I picked up some vitamins and Calpol from Superdrug).

I’m done. DCS2 is staying with his mum for a break for a few months but DSC1 is here. She works part time at a shop. I ask her to pay a tiny amount of rent each month (literally one 8th of what she earns - she doen’t go out apart from work - ever, doesn’t drive, I sort all her meals so no other big expenses) and that’s unreasonable. If I ask her to empty the dishwasher she huffs and puffs. If I work late - sometimes if shit goes down I have to be on crisis calls - she rings her dad and tells them that I’m talking to other men on the phone. If I ask her to help with any house bits (my three all pitch in as well - promise I’m not trying to be an evil step mum) she rings her dad and cries. She spent 15 minutes ranting to me today about how hard her life is and how she wants a holiday, I’ve cook for her every day, I cuddle her when she’s sad, I get her mum to ring her, I’ve taken her to doctors and counselors appointment but I don’t care about her enough. Basically she gets treated like one of my 3 - they both do. She’s only been back at work for a few weeks - she’s previously been furloughed. When I push back to H or DSC1 they make me the bad guy. H is now saying that there’s something wrong with me because I’m finding this so hard and don’t I understand how much he and DSC1 are struggling with their mental health.

Feel like I’m going mad. I'm trying so hard to keep everyone happy. Doing DIY and painting when the kids are sleeping. Doing all the homework, baking, trips to the park etc. Want to protect my kids but honestly don’t know how to look after my step kids. They were both in their early 20s when we met and got together so it’s not like they’re small children that I brought up if you get me. How do I do the right thing by them? Or at least cause the least hurt? I’m resenting H and DSC1 and 2 to an extent but at least he mostly ignores me when he;s here). Is there something wrong with me? Can someone give me a script for supportive things I can say? I keep bursting into tears at work and people are starting to notice. A couple of colleagues have asked if I should maybe take some time off but the thing is, I’ve nowhere to go. Home is a mess. Kids can’t be left with anyone else. Even if I took some time off when the kids are in school, H will be over to check on me or DSC1 would tell him I wasn’t working. He’d then accuse me of being lazy (apparently I sleep all the time - evidenced by he turned up at 8 am on a Sunday morning and we were all asleep). Can anyone give me some advise / scripts / tell me to cop on? Thanks if you’ve made it this far and sorry if I don’t reply straight away - kids work etc. Also sorry for the rambling and the terrible spelling but I'm just so tired.

OP posts:
justilou1 · 19/09/2020 08:43

YOU do better? Really? Do what? Pick a better guy? Ffs!!! Get a pest exterminator in and get rid of him and his parasitic kids!!!

Dery · 19/09/2020 08:43

“Sounds awful OP, no wonder you are exhausted. I echo the pp advice - go and see a solicitor, get divorce and house sale proceedings underway. Move to a house with your 3 children and life will improve immeasurably when you lose your H and his 2 kids.”

This and all the variations of it above. Then after you have got him out of your life, please have some extended counselling to ensure you never allow yourself to be treated so appallingly again. I’m not blaming you - you’re deeply kind and clearly a huge giver. But he is an exploitative bastard and you haven’t been able to stand up for yourself and protect yourself from being massively screwed over. That can’t be allowed to happen again. And you don’t want your children to grow up thinking this is okay either.

PointyMcguire · 19/09/2020 08:54

I can’t quite get over the fact you’re running yourself ragged whilst your husband doesn’t muck in at all, and instead of getting angry at him for sitting on his arse whilst leaving you to keep all the plates spinning you’re sat asking how to do better?! He doesn’t even have a job, so why the heck is he living with a friend and watching you struggle to work two jobs, keep the house in order and look after the kids. Why is he not helping keep on top of the housework and looking after the kids? What does he even do with his days?

You sound like bloody superwoman to juggle all that you do, the way I see the only way I can see you doing better as you put it is if you told your husband and freeloading step children to either muck in or jog on!

Catsarelush · 19/09/2020 09:04

Seven people on your house including two in their late 20s, you get work done on the house and your husband moves out!

Are you actually still together as a couple?

I would leave them all to it ASAP, sell up and get somewhere small and manageable with your own kids.

MaidenMotherCrone · 19/09/2020 09:10

So you pay all the bills?

Get yourself a separate bank account he has no access to and spend YOUR money as you please.

Then sling his sorry arse and tell him to take his kids with him. Sell the house and buy/rent somewhere for you and your 3.

How dare he!

FingersCrossedForAllOfUs · 19/09/2020 09:14

Morning OP,

The majority of the advice on here is to get rid of him. He brings nothing but misery to your life along with his two adult kids.
Move your money into your own account and get legal advice now.
Please don’t waste a second more of your life on this waste of space.
What are you waiting for??? He will not change.

HolyFuckingCuntBalls · 19/09/2020 09:22

Thanks all. Am here, reading all the comments and processing. Sorry if I drop in and out today - one of the kids isn't feeling well so looking after her. Thanks for all the suggestions and help. Feeling relieved - genuinely thought there was something wrong with me or that I was going mad before I posted this.

OP posts:
MarriedtoDaveGrohl · 19/09/2020 09:40

You are not going mad. I actually couldn't understand the situation because it was so surreal.

But he's a clever manipulative lazy gaslighting abuser. I managed to get that bit easy enough. And his kids are a disgrace.

I'm still reeling at the you pay all bills and he takes all your money tbh. And then attacks you for how you spend it. Oh and the moving out do you can look after his fucking kids. That was confusing too.

You'll need an excellent plan possibly involving locks being changed. His daughter leaving, and accounts being emptied since he doesn't live there anyway (unless it's his house which I doubt). Do not talk to him again. Apart from through a solicitor.

Zofloramummy · 19/09/2020 09:55

Are you still actually a couple? When he moved out was that discussed? He sounds like a manipulative selfish man who is happily watching you work yourself to the bone whilst sitting on his backside criticising everything you do. No doubt he is never wrong in any disagreement.

How long have you been together? You aren’t happy at all, unsurprisingly, you deserve better. I would LTB and get his kids out. They’re all adults, they have responsibility for their own lives, you can’t sacrifice your happiness, financial security and mental health for them. Whatever you do will never be enough. Discussing things will make no difference either. It’s time to end things.

AnnaFour · 19/09/2020 09:58

You’re not going mad, he’s manipulating you and getting his children to help. Surely you must see, if you take a step back, that this behaviour is absolutely outrageous. Even moaning about you putting on weight given the sheer amount of work you’ve been doing would be outrageous and that’s clearly only the least of it.

What is keeping you with him? What actual positive, tangible benefits does he bring to your life? And what benefits does he bring to your
children’s loves?

Dery · 19/09/2020 10:30

@HolyFuckingCuntBalls - be inspired by your username. You've clearly got huge amounts of guts and boundless energy.

But not nearly enough anger. I feel like we are all feeling the fury that you should be feeling at his behaviour. And Dear God - you were asking how you could do better. Why? How could you think any of this is on you? Who taught you to value and care for yourself so little?

Given the situation you have been putting up with, you should have enough anger in you to scorch your freeloading, abusive, nasty H to ashes if you put the anger into words. Literally.

I also had difficulty struggling to believe this was real because it's hard to believe that a single human being could be so relentlessly entitled and such an abusive waste of space at the same time. Please, please, please get rid of him. Decent men - are there are millions out there - would not dream of treating you the way he has treated you. There's no coming back from someone being such an epically exploitative, nasty prick as your H is.

Keep posting here for support, OP. And try and get some in real life too. Really looking forward to an update saying you've kicked your abusive H and his freeloading children to the curb. Your life will get immeasurably better, OP. As soon as you do that.

Lorddenning1 · 19/09/2020 11:46

I just don't understand why he has moved out, unless you are no longer together 🤔

LilyLongJohn · 19/09/2020 11:56

Op it's not you that needs to do better it's your dh!

So let me get this straight, you're looking after his kids, your joint kids, homeschooling, cooking, cleaning, overseeing building work and holding down 2 fucking jobs! Whilst your dh has no job and doesn't help you at all!! And you think YOU need to do better.

Tbh op I'd divorce him, ask his kids to leave and cut yourself some slack

krj2608 · 19/09/2020 12:02

Oh op this sounds absolutely awful. Sending you a huge virtual hug.

You are literally doing everything whilst he is living like a teenager with a friend? He is sounds like an utter pri** xxxx

yousawthewholeofthemoon · 19/09/2020 12:14

This is all really sad and you're not the one who needs to do better, stop trying! Please tell him you want a trial separation.

newnameforthis123 · 19/09/2020 15:36

@LilyLongJohn

Op it's not you that needs to do better it's your dh!

So let me get this straight, you're looking after his kids, your joint kids, homeschooling, cooking, cleaning, overseeing building work and holding down 2 fucking jobs! Whilst your dh has no job and doesn't help you at all!! And you think YOU need to do better.

Tbh op I'd divorce him, ask his kids to leave and cut yourself some slack

This.

Why on earth are you with this horrible man still? He's a bully and a manipulator.

Your responsibility is to you and your children. This situation is totally chaotic and is making you unwell.

You do NOT need to do better other than having better boundaries and expectations of others.

Please, please divorce him. If not just for you then for your children. This chaos is going to make everyone suffer the longer it goes on.

Do you not feel like you want to divorce him?

Dragongirl10 · 19/09/2020 15:53

Op this is so shocking, you are so busy you cannot see the wood for the trees.

DHs offspring are adults and should not be living with you, unless they behave like adults, ie pay a market rent, do their laundry and share of cleaning and cooking. AND are polite and helpful to you.

DH is pathetic moving out, he is no partner.
He needs to move back in, job hunt hours a day and run the home 8 hours a day whilst you work.
He also needs to support your decisions with his adult offspring and live within the family budget until he contributes again. OR LEAVE for good. Which would be my choice if l were you.

After work go and lock yourself in the bathroom , take a long bath and really think about how much better your life would be without him or his (adult) children in your house.
How much tidier, easier and calmer it would be.
If he really loves you he will get his act together, but right now he is a freeloader.

HolyFuckingCuntBalls · 19/09/2020 18:49

Hi All. Back while the kids are having dinner. I promise this is real. Sorry for the wall of text last night - I was so stressed and just needed to get it all out. For those who asked, house is in both our names and we're both on the mortgage. I sold my house 5 years ago and used the proceeds to pay off his ex - they divorced years ago and he promised her a one off payment once he either sold the house or re-married (he stayed in the house with his kids and she moved out). So paid her off and spent money improving the house. It hadn't been updated since the 70s so new wiring, lights, bathroom etc then we added me to the mortgage and deeds when we got married. When we decided to extend rather than move both our names went on the mortgage extension.

OP posts:
HolyFuckingCuntBalls · 19/09/2020 19:03

And sorry -building work done on the house - we couldn't all stay so he moved to his friends leaving me with the kids. I had no one to go to as was shielding so we agreed that he would go because it was only meant to be for a week or so. . He left both his kids with me and then a few months ago, his son went to stay with his mum and is still there. He's scared about lock down and feels safer being in a house with less people.

OP posts:
EKGEMS · 19/09/2020 19:10

You need a divorce attorney,stat! Your so called husband is a verbally and financially abusive asshole and lazy as fuck. His children don't fall far from the tree,do they? How could you possibly think selling your house and using the proceeds to pay his ex off was a good idea? You really need to find your inner strength and reach deep down and leave this relationship or whatever you all have

MarriedtoDaveGrohl · 19/09/2020 19:15

Well none of that changes anything anyone has said. It's a fucking disgrace him moving out leaving you with his kids. He's a cocklodger and a lazy prick. Spend your money on counselling so you can understand exactly why you have put up with this. Paying his ex off for starters - are you in some kind of competition with her to prove you are a better partner by going to extreme lengths to please him? Is that by any chance because he's set that up? Think about it.

Has he managed to get you to put aside all reason and self preservation just to prove yourself to him? To prove you are 'not like her'. Clever man. I bet he's got a ton of tricks up his sleeve.

TorkTorkBam · 19/09/2020 19:17

Why is his discomfort so special? Why are his wishes your commands?

Put your wages to a new bank account he does not access.

Kick out the adult "child" living in your house.

Read up on abuse and cocklodgers. You are being mugged.

Find your anger.

BluebellsGreenbells · 19/09/2020 19:23

First tell the SC that you’ve split with her father and she needs to find a place to stay or pay rent plus house work

Fairybatman · 19/09/2020 19:39

Step1. Get a new bank account that he has no access to and move your money there. By all means pay household bills and anything in joint names but don’t give him any spending money or access to yours. You are working 2 jobs to keep heads above water and he does not get to second guess you.

Step 2. Chores rota for all kids and rent for anyone out of education. If the step kids don’t like it they can move out. They are both well old enough to look after themselves, and they have 2 parents who need to step up.

Step 3. He starts pulling his weight, you are working 2 jobs and he isn’t working at all. He needs to be doing half the housework, all the decorating and any childcare and home-schooling. If he doesn’t like it he can sling his hook too.

Step 4. Be kind to yourself, you are doing great and don’t need to do better. You need to find your anger and demand to be treated fairly.

I know all of this is easier said than done, but it really does boil down to get angry and demand to be treated fairly. Gin for you!

Prokupatuscrakedatus · 19/09/2020 21:27

YOU payed off HIS EX from the proceeds of YOUR house sale?
Is he paying you back, have you made a contract about that?