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Should I cut contact with my DM because of the emotional blackmail?

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Mittens030869 · 31/08/2020 11:26

I've spoken about the childhood abuse my siblings and I went through as children on previous threads so I won't go into that here. My abusive F is long dead, so there aren't obvious safety issues surrounding contact with my DM.

My DB was involved in abusing my DSis and me, though he was also abused himself and is badly damaged. I haven't allowed contact between him and our adopted DDs (now 11 and 8) and my DM has respected this when she's had them on her own.

However, she is very manipulative. She keeps going on about how hard my DB has found not having contact with my DSis and me, and she's pushing hard for me to start seeing him again, as he's feeling very hurt and rejected.

This is also tricky, as he claims not to remember anything and has always put our F on a pedestal, though he is coming to understand that our memories of our childhood are different from his. His GP and psychiatrist say that he shouldn't be told anything more for his own sake.

Another thing that's getting to me is that she also wants to work towards contact with my DDs and has insisted on buying presents for them from the uncle they barely know. But actual contact would also be very tricky, because DD2 (8) has picked up that our F was abusive; she blurted out the question 'Did your dad rape you? So that would be very difficult to manage anyway.

I've kept up contact with my DM because I considered that my DDs had a relationship with her as Granny and would be hurt if contact was stopped. That's no longer the case after lockdown. They say they don't want to go out with her on their own now.

My DSis is saying that she wants to cut contact, because if my F was alive, contact wouldn't be happening. She also thinks my DM knew what was going on, something she has always strenuously denied. My DSis has memories of her knowing about it and not doing anything. It's possible, as I went to a private convent school and didn't come home until the evenings, so she might know things I don't.

I don't know what to think. My DM claims to be broken-hearted about what happened. But then when I pointed out that my F's behaviour towards her was abusive, too (paranoia about her cheating, emotionally abusive and controlling), she defended him and said it was because of his Parkinson's Disease medication, and then the illness itself

And finally, my mental and physical health isn't good, especially following long-term COVID, which thankfully is clearing up. But I'm completely drained (I already had CFS and PTSD anyway), and I'm worried that seeing my DB will set me right back if I see my DB face to face, as I always found seeing him very triggering.

But my DM will keep pushing my buttons. I feel I need to pull back, but she's about to turn 81 and the guilt will be hard to live with. My DM used to spend 2-3 months every year in Africa, which she won't be doing now, because of the COVID risk, so that means she's going to be around permanently.

I apologise that this is so long, but I didn't want to mislead by not giving the full picture.

I suppose I just want a hand hold here, as I am emotionally fragile right now, and don't want to make the wrong decision here.

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Mittens030869 · 31/08/2020 13:49

@HotPatootiebootie

That makes your mum's behaviour even more reprehensible, the fact that she believed you and nevertheless still wanted that man's friendship. I'm so sorry, that's really awful.

As my F is long dead, we'll never know how she would have responded if he was still around. Sadly, I'm starting to agree with my DSis, and believe that she did know what was going on and made excuses for my F because of his illness. After all, she's admitted that she knew he was smacking us too hard. She says she didn't like it, but she didn't stop him from doing it.

She never prioritised my DSis or me. Or at least, she only prioritises those who she can look after when they're not well. My F had Parkinson's Disease, so she focused all her energies on looking after him, and now she focuses on my DB, who can't function independently due to his MH issues and needs her support. She's always been good at taking over when someone isn't well.

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HotPatootiebootie · 31/08/2020 13:50

This is the book. I really have found out life changing in terms of insights of relationship dynamics.

Should I cut contact with my DM because of the emotional blackmail?
Backtoschoolnotsoonenough · 31/08/2020 13:51

Imo your dm is trying to rewrite history and is using your dc to achieve that...
Please please stop your dc seeing her..

Mittens030869 · 31/08/2020 13:57

@ALLIS0N

I know that my DDs haven't had contact with my brother. He's like another child now (diagnosed as autistic as well) so her contact with him is separate from her contact with us. She doesn't even see him herself much, because physically she can't cope and she's nervous because of the COVID risk (he isn't very careful and she's nearly 81). Her contact with him is mainly by telephone.

My DDs haven't seen him for many years, and that will continue to be the case.

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Mittens030869 · 31/08/2020 13:59

@HotPatootiebootie Thank you. I will look at that book.m, it looks like it will be very helpful. And thank you to everyone else who has posted on this thread. I really appreciate it. Thanks

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WiserOlder · 31/08/2020 14:00

I bet she is exaggerating his supposed hurt at not being in your children's lives. From the picture you've painted he probably has his own life and routine and isn't thinking ''oh my nieces! I need to get to know them''. If he was capable of a connection and had that unmet need for connection he'd be reaching out to you/your sister. But I think his mother meets that need and she is probably thinking that you and your sister should look after him after she has gone. You would not owe it to him.

Mittens030869 · 31/08/2020 14:07

@WiserOlder I know he isn't bothered about contact with my DDs, it's my DM who is bothered about it. And I don't intend to allow my DDs to see him, they have enough to cope with, with their adoption and also DD2's experience with online grooming. I want them to start back at school (DD1 will be starting at high school), and not to be dragged down by any of this.

However, I know he's struggling with not seeing my DSis and me. But I don't have the headspace to cope with seeing him again right now.

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ChristmasCarcass · 31/08/2020 15:04

Tbh I thought "repressed memory" had largely been debunked?

Yes and no. In a highly traumatic situation, your ability to form long-term memories is affected (I was raped as an adult, sober, and whole chunks of the night are missing and everything else is remembered through a sort of unreal fog like it happened to somebody else. I remember thoughts and feelings not concrete events). Accident victims often don’t remember much either.

And abused children often just don’t remember much of their childhood, as a protective mechanism. Obviously if he was 18 at the time that is less likely, but if he was under ten that would be entirely believable.

Sorry to derail, but victims of rape and CSE are often disbelieved when their stories are disjointed, and it is usually as a result of trauma not them lying.

confusionball · 31/08/2020 17:28

@HotPatootiebootie

This is the book. I really have found out life changing in terms of insights of relationship dynamics.
Thanks for the book details Hotpatootie x
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