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The cheater or the partner ?

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Jodiemarie14 · 29/08/2020 14:08

Does he love the partner he lies to or the one he cheats with, that he tells the truth too?
Seen this quote and curios

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Dontbeme · 29/08/2020 14:12

Neither, he loved himself only. Everyone else was a bit part player in his entitlement and he maneuvered us like chess pieces. That was my experience as the cheated on partner that was faithful.

ShitStain · 29/08/2020 14:14

He’s lying to both.

He’s having sex with both.

He loves himself and uses others.

TossACoinToYerWitcher · 29/08/2020 14:26

Have you ever bought a pair of shoes because you thought they were amazing?

Like, they made you feel good when you wore them: they made you feel stylish, gave your ego a boost, they felt comfortable, etc. They really are "you".

A few years on, they're still comfy but their getting a bit worn about the edges. You're used to them. You've worn them pretty much every day. They're not exciting anymore. So they don't give you that "buzz".

Then you spot some new shoes. You have to have them. You bet they'll make you feel good when you wear them: they'll make you feel stylish again, give your ego a boost, they'll feel comfortable, etc. They really are "you". Okay, you still have your old shoes. You'd feel bad about throwing them out - after all, they still do the job. So you keep them around to wear about the house and then sneakily buy the new ones to wear on a sneaky night out.

That's you and the OW, that is. To the cheater your pairs of shoes. No more, no less. And they love you the same way people love pairs of shoes. Is that the same as real love and intimacy? With a real, complex person? You tell me.

ChangedMyNameYetAgain · 29/08/2020 14:29

He loves himself and himself only.
The shoes analogy is spot on.

Msonamission · 29/08/2020 14:33

Is the implication that a person will lie to a person they love in order to keep them from the hurtful truth?

But from what I read on here, people lie to their affair partners all the time as well.

SleepingStandingUp · 29/08/2020 16:49

@Jodiemarie14

Does he love the partner he lies to or the one he cheats with, that he tells the truth too? Seen this quote and curios
He loved her enough to fuck another

Should just about cover it, for them both

ladamanera · 30/08/2020 10:18

The “pair of shoes” metaphor. Who are you to determine how people you don’t know love and see each other? People are complex, the way they love is multifaceted and relationships are complex nuanced and difficult. It’s so reductionist to decide that everyone must be disposable impersonal Objects to some all-powerful Subject in the middle- how does that help the original partner? How does it help the new person or the cheating person? Yes there are some sociopaths out there but not everyone and this seems such a spiteful and distressing simplification of human nature for all three people involved.

PicsInRed · 30/08/2020 10:33

Habitual cheaters don't have "loved people", they have prized dolls they put on their shelf when they're bored - they don't want them right now, but wont let anyone else play with them either.

This is why they can be so vile to divorce. How dare you leave them. They decide when disposal occurs.

Objects, nothing more. The only live human being to them, is them.

TossACoinToYerWitcher · 30/08/2020 18:35

@ladamanera People are, indeed, complex. The issue isn't in determining how they love each other - its in observing the actions they take. @PicsInRed has it spot on.

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